What are these mysterious pills found on the roadside at Paris-Roubaix?

[podunavac]

What in the world are you trying to say?

You said it's artificial controversy....stating all they have is the fan's pictures. I'm simply saying they also have the vial. I'm not saying that a banned substance is in that vial. I'm just saying there is more to this issue than just pictures - There is a vial with an unknown substance in it.

What are the guarantees that the fan hasn't planted the vial?

 

[Jspear]

What are the guarantees that the fan hasn't planted the vial?

I can't say...wasn't there. Still controversy though - we for sure ain't agreeing.

 

[podunavac]

I can't say...wasn't there. Still controversy though - we for sure ain't agreeing.

For sure.
But you have to admit that it can't be a subject of an investigation due to the procedural reasons.
Thus it's nothing more than a story.

 

[martinvickers]

For sure.
But you have to admit that it can't be a subject of an investigation due to the procedural reasons.
Thus it's nothing more than a story.

It could certainly point the way to targetted testing going forward, though, no?

 

[podunavac]

It could certainly point the way to targetted testing going forward, though, no?

If the vial is credible and isn't contaminated additionally, yes.
But to me it really looks like a hoax of a fan.

 

[martinvickers]

If the vial is credible and isn't contaminated additionally, yes.
But to me it really looks like a hoax of a fan.

Quite possibly - but lets wait and see.

 

[DirtyWorks]

It's not like the authorities have found the vials in the velodrome showers or locker rooms, teams' trash or luggage. Collected them according to a procedure and sent to the laboratory.

Haha... You must be a recent fan.

"Authorities" don't collect found vials. Found vials are disposed for the press to find. And then rigorous denials, personal attacks, and maybe even the promise of "an investigation" no one ever sees. This is a dirty, dirty sport at the elite level.

Like Martin in this case, waiting for more information. Hopefully UKAD will publish it!

 

[ChewbaccaD]

I don't think we know that this photo is the right one. The original statements included reference to several (or more than 1) rider going down. This looks quite solo. I don't see another rider around and it looks like he just fell.

I would hold off 'till we know more.

I think the reason there aren't any more people in the photograph is due to the limited angle of view of the lens. If you look to the left of the picture, you can see that someone is bent over, which may very well be someone attending to another rider, and the others who fell could be further to the left.

 

[Afrank]

I'm not sure that picture is anything, and don't want to make it out to be something it isn't. But I can see something to the right of the rider on the pavement (right behind him). But like I said, could be absolutely nothing.

 

[RedheadDane]

I believe, no, scratch that, I hope it's something completely legal. Both for the sake of the sport, and because I - honestly - would find it rather funny if it turns out to be a big stir all for nothing.

But at the same time I realise that it is possible that it's something illegal, and that a rider did drop it out of his pocket during a crash. Sure, it seems almost too obvious; as some of you have already mentioned: "Who would be stupid enough to carry a vial labelled 'Test Product' along for a major race such as PR?"
Let's face it; there are people who're that stupid!

 

[BigMac]

Looking at the label, in the first line, it seems to have printed:

PL: A(can't read the rest) 12/02/..12

Then we have:

101: Hel(can't read the rest) ../02/.... (perhaps the same date?)

And then:

TEST PRODUCT TOUST....RY

Any Ideas? Is it an emission or expiration date?

 

[red_flanders]

I think the reason there aren't any more people in the photograph is due to the limited angle of view of the lens. If you look to the left of the picture, you can see that someone is bent over, which may very well be someone attending to another rider, and the others who fell could be further to the left.

Could be. It will be more interesting when/if more info is available. Sort of a fun curiosity 'till then.

If I found it the last thing I'd have done is send it to a national fed...or the UCI. Not sure what I'd have done.

 

[Granville57]

Looking at the label, in the first line, it seems to have printed:

Good work.

What piques my interest the most at the moment, is that someone, somewhere out there, knows exactly what this is. So why the silence?

If it's nothing, then put all the speculation to rest.

If it's "something," then both a rider and his team know that, and they better have a damn good explanation. This story has gotten enough traction that the silence is more incriminating than anything else at the moment.

If it did fall from a rider's jersey, they're only digging themselves a hole by keeping silent about it.

If the whole thing is a farce, then Brampton is going to lose more than just his credibility.

Now, of course, the ball is in the UCI's corner. Cookson would do well to follow through on this as quickly and thoroughly as possible.

 

[Hugh Januss]

I think the reason there aren't any more people in the photograph is due to the limited angle of view of the lens. If you look to the left of the picture, you can see that someone is bent over, which may very well be someone attending to another rider, and the others who fell could be further to the left.

It would be tough to end up that far to the inside after a corner no matter how you went about falling off.

 

[Race Radio]

If I found it the last thing I'd have done is send it to a national fed...or the UCI. Not sure what I'd have done.

The guy who took the pics did neither of these, he sent them to UKAD.

 

[red_flanders]

The guy who took the pics did neither of these, he sent them to UKAD.

I'm sorry I don't know exactly what to call UKAD. But that's what I mean, I'd have not told UKAD or their equivalent.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

The guy who took the pics did neither of these, he sent them to UKAD.

He should have send it to the Chief Inspector Clouseau of Cycling, he knows what to do when he hears the rattling of pills.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

He should have send it to the Chief Inspector Clouseau of Cycling, he knows what to do when he hears the rattling of pills.

If you are referring to Verbruggen or McQuaid, the pills would have never seen the light of day. Doping? What doping?

 

[Digger]

If you are referring to Verbruggen or McQuaid, the pills would have never seen the light of day. Doping? What doping?

No Walsh...he turned a blind eye to Kelly's jersey pocket rattling.

And also defended Kelly when he went positive.

And said the PDM affair wasn't suspicious.


Seems we have gone full circle.

 

[SecomBe]

Any news on this?
how long does it usually take UKAD to analyze such substance samples?

 

[Benotti69]

Any news on this?
how long does it usually take UKAD to analyze such substance samples?

If they belong to a British rider, centuries........

As they more than likely belong to a non British rider, decades..........

 

[doolols]

I believe they said at the time it would be 2-3 weeks.

 

[Afrank]

Don't get your hopes up to ever see anything come from this. I'm 95% sure we will never hear UKAD (or any other official body) ever say anything about this.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Mainly because the likelihood of them being anymore than a finishing bottle of tramadol and caffeine is remote

 

[red_flanders]

Mainly because the likelihood of them being anymore than a finishing bottle of tramadol and caffeine is remote

Right, because if it was actually something innocuous, keeping quiet about it would be the way to handle it.

Agree with Afrank though, we'll not likely hear anything about it.