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chuckmicD said:Anybody mention Romains Vainsteins? He's an all-time fav nothing-champ-nothing rider.
Maybe he became 100% cleanroundabout said:
chuckmicD said:Anybody mention Romains Vainsteins? He's an all-time fav nothing-champ-nothing rider.
blackcat said:chuckmicD said:Anybody mention Romains Vainsteins? He's an all-time fav nothing-champ-nothing rider.
think he married the daughter of the owner of the vinyard wine co of Vini Caldirola or Cantina Tollo, I think the former
he liked to wear his bandana before compulsory helmets...
how is my memory doing Libertine Seguros?
Former world champion Romans Vainsteins is apparently jaded with professional cycling and on the brink of retirement at just 31 years of age. According to reports in Italy, the Latvian finisseur has lost the will to train and even to put himself in the shop window for 2005. Vainsteins, who became world champion at Plouay in 2000, had his contract with Lampre rescinded after the world championships in October, officially for not respecting the team's internal code of behaviour. Those in the know report that Vainstein's performances had become considerably more energetic on the dancefloor than on the road, where he has plunged to 151st in the world rankings. One team that would be willing to accommodate Vainsteins is Vini Caldirola, for whom he rode in 1999, 2000 and 2003. It was in his first stint with the team that Vainsteins wooed the daughter of the Caldirola company owner, Elisabetta Caldirola
And also to finish it.blackcat said:whatta bout the phat phuk who rode for Saeco and was good in Roubaix, and always stacked on two Jan Ullrich's in the offseason Dario Pieri. He would be a blimp by now.
I heard he left to start his of pizza place
That happens all the time. Not every good amateur, let alone junior, will turn into a great professional.Billie said:Valentino China?
Whooped Basso, Di Luca and Nocentini's ass in every race in junior category.
Never did anything in his couple years at Saeco
That happens all the time. Not every good amateur, let alone junior, will turn into a great professional.[/quote]"Jeff"":2nzfgl7j][quote="Billie said:Valentino China?
Whooped Basso, Di Luca and Nocentini's ass in every race in junior category.
Never did anything in his couple years at Saeco
palimpsest #phoneticsHelmutRoole said:Papps's list.HelmutRoole said:What happened to Papp's list-o-clients?
Mark Cavendish's avatar brought this post to my attention (lol/thx)...just to clarify, it's not a probation agreement that dictated the terms and set a course for future action, but rather, a plea agreement. This was a complex process, for reasons that I won't go into here, but the terms of probation to which the judge sentenced me (which began after a period of house arrest) were pretty straightforward - though of course I had to live up to my end of the bargain we struck w/ the USATT as outlined in the plea agreement.HelmutRoole said:True. They have to go after the big fish to justify funding from the US government, which comprises much more than half of their budget. In defense of Papp, part of his probation agreement was that he would cooperate with USADA and for whatever reason USADA doesn't want him releasing the list, which if F-up. Because: because Papp did everything Landis and Hamilton did to make it as a pro cyclist (trained hard, took drugs, lied about it) and yet he can't profit from it. Now, I understand he violated the laws of the land, but still, what does USADA have to gain by not letting the dog off the leash.Dear Wiggo said:HelmutRoole said:I find it massively f'ed-up that USADA has sat on a list of, what, a couple hundred buyers of EPO and HGH and have banned a handful? Isn't anyone curious? If you race bicycles in the U.S. you will regocnize some of the names on that list.
This perplexes me entirely.
And further reinforces the notion that there is no such thing as anti-doping. It is all anti-doping theatre.
Thanks for the kind words and the humorous description of my relationship w/ USADA. Yeah I definitely like to think that I'm not a monster, I have friends, a young niece who I love to death, and I even enjoy gardening and birding and have been volunteering time/effort to support the Monarch Butterfly lol.HelmutRoole said:Also, Papp seems an okay guy, not evil. Nothing like Armstrong. But it seems there's a Stockholm Syndrome relationship with Papp and USADA at times. He seems a cheerleader for that organization and yet they've got him bent over the barrel. That said, I think it's possible he reports back to USADA when things start heating up on the forums. Kinda gives them a heads up. So, if we keep asking for the List, maybe someday they'll let Papp release it.
EDIT: Oh, The List!! Yeah...i don't think my releasing unilaterally a client list is ever going to be so compelling and risk-free that that's what happens. I know that disappoints people, but at the same time I know even from what you wrote above that you seem to understand that - or at least assume that's probably what dissuades me from doing it. However, I've always said that I don't have a problem with either USADA or the USGOVT being the ones to release that evidence! (just so it's not on/up-to me lol)
"I can neither confirm - nor deny - that I left an unencrypted copy of PappList.xls sitting in a publicly-accessible folder on my GoogleDrive."doperhopper said:A well timed convenient hack would do the job - and it does not evnen have to be PappLeaks, better if it looks like coming from the government/police/etc. side, just my 50ct ;-)