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Nick C. said:
In another year or two you might say Andrew Talkansky
simon gerrans and him are now BFFs. there is gonna be a reality show on the kardishian channel, "Simon and Andrew"
 
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chiocciolis_calves said:
Romans Vainsteins, Ivan Quaranta, Andrey Kashechkin, Isidro Nozal, Santiago Perez...
RaceRadio will know, but I think that Vanesteins married the daughter on Cantina Tolo. It could have been the daughter on Vini Coldirola. One of the wine majors that sponsored cycling.
 
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chiocciolis_calves said:
Romans Vainsteins, Ivan Quaranta, Andrey Kashechkin, Isidro Nozal, Santiago Perez...
Quaranta prolly got fat like Dario Pieri, and opened up his own chain of pizza stores. Kash wanted his own team and gov't money to underwrite it too, but Vino as Vino was more connected to the mafiaso contacts back home, so it was a bad gambit by Kash, needless to say, he has no team
 
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Pentacycle said:
Libertine Seguros said:
Gerdemann, Löfkvist, Velits, Goss and EBH all have something in common in their early career: HTC-Columbia. Even Cavendish isn't producing at his HTC level.
Burghardt, good domestique for Tejay and GVA but didn't the guy once win Gent-Wevelgem and a Tour stage? All his best performances in spring classics were at HTC.
Kirchen, although due to heart disease.
Ciolek, except of course MSR 2013 and a few decent finishes in Hamburg.
Alex Rasmussen, had missed a few controls IIRC? Used to be Denmark's hope for TT's.

Maybe Cervélo TT deserves a mention as well. Although they rode in black, so cleans.
Apart from Haussler:
Reimer, had a spectacular 2009 which he never confirmed.
Appollonio, proven doper.
Konovalovas, the guy that won a Giro TT out of nowhere, a Peter Velits avant la lettre. However, has an impressive 2015 behind his name.

Don't forget Deignan!
 
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Ferminal said:
Pentacycle said:
Libertine Seguros said:
Gerdemann, Löfkvist, Velits, Goss and EBH all have something in common in their early career: HTC-Columbia. Even Cavendish isn't producing at his HTC level.
Burghardt, good domestique for Tejay and GVA but didn't the guy once win Gent-Wevelgem and a Tour stage? All his best performances in spring classics were at HTC.
Kirchen, although due to heart disease.
Ciolek, except of course MSR 2013 and a few decent finishes in Hamburg.
Alex Rasmussen, had missed a few controls IIRC? Used to be Denmark's hope for TT's.

Maybe Cervélo TT deserves a mention as well. Although they rode in black, so cleans.
Apart from Haussler:
Reimer, had a spectacular 2009 which he never confirmed.
Appollonio, proven doper.
Konovalovas, the guy that won a Giro TT out of nowhere, a Peter Velits avant la lettre. However, has an impressive 2015 behind his name.

Don't forget Deignan!

Konovalovas was the only time trialist to ride in dry roads. Then the rain poured. He was never good.
 
:D Cândido Barbosa. Yes Libertine, that's Brôco by his side.

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GuyIncognito said:
Konovalovas was the only time trialist to ride in dry roads. Then the rain poured. He was never good.


And anyway, apart from that fluke giro stage, he had the biggest victory of his career this year, so he has hardly disappeared.
 
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tweak37 said:
GuyIncognito said:
Konovalovas was the only time trialist to ride in dry roads. Then the rain poured. He was never good.


And anyway, apart from that fluke giro stage, he had the biggest victory of his career this year, so he has hardly disappeared.
Just because he reemerged like 6 years later it doesn't mean he didn't disappear in the first place.
 
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the best every british sprinter jamie burrow!

i actually follow him on twitter.

José Antonio Pecharromán

whenever i forget him it is either Loflo or Libertine who bring their elephantine memory weight to bear for my lack of recall.
 
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blackcat said:
the best every british sprinter jamie burrow!

i actually follow him on twitter.

José Antonio Pecharromán

whenever i forget him it is either Loflo or Libertine who bring their elephantine memory weight to bear for my lack of recall.

climber you fool. damn you're right blackcat. climber,qua grimpeur, as in armchairclimber

blackcat: thanks internal dialogue
 
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JackRabbitSlims said:
Stingray34 said:
The Russian guy with the mullet that looked like Chad Kroeger of Nickleback


vladimir karpets??

the russian rug salesman

That's him. I guess he's been selling 'rugs' to Vladimir Belli and Antonio Conte. Why do Italians - denizens of style and proportion - love crappy glue-on wigs so much? Embrace the razor!!!
 
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Stingray34 said:
JackRabbitSlims said:
Stingray34 said:
The Russian guy with the mullet that looked like Chad Kroeger of Nickleback


vladimir karpets??

the russian rug salesman

That's him. I guess he's been selling 'rugs' to Vladimir Belli and Antonio Conte. Why do Italians - denizens of style and proportion - love crappy glue-on wigs so much? Embrace the razor!!!
Vlad lost Fuentes number, thats what happened to him.
 
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chiocciolis_calves said:
Escarabajo said:
Libertine Seguros said:
Gerdemann, Löfkvist, Velits, Goss and EBH all have something in common in their early career: HTC-Columbia. Even Cavendish isn't producing at his HTC level.
From that group I'll take Velits only.

EBH has been more about pumping hot air more than anything else. I don't remember him ever being world class. He was good stage hunter but not world class.

I'll add Andy Schleck. Probably one of the biggest ones.

Popovych. I thought everybody was saying he was the next big thing back in the days.

Popovych is a fine choice. Ernesto Colnago was hyping him as the next Merckx. He did look like a top prospect who could TT and climb, circa 2003/2004. Then he got 12th, I believe, plus a stage win as a Lance domestique in the Tour.
He was also 3rd in the 2003 Giro and wore the maglia rosa in 2004 with another top 10.

However, Popo is also one of the absolute easiest to point at what happened to him. Volodymyr Bileka was his running buddy early in his career; he was a talented junior and contemporary of Popo (a year older or so) who also turned pro with Landbouwkrediet at the same time; he rode most of the same races as Popo but never progressed beyond a dom as a pro, and moved with him to Discovery Channel in 2005, then to Lotto in 2008.

Popo's 2008 season started well, especially in Paris-Nice, but rather fell apart as the year went on. Coincidentally (or not), Bileka got busted for EPO in May. Popovych was weak for the rest of 2008, only to be a strong domestique again (albeit not at the level he was 2005-7) when reunited with Bruyneel in 2009. Popo had an injury-ridden 2010 season, then in 2011 the Landis stuff and the computer raids happened, and since then he's been a nobody.

It looks an awful lot like Popo was an obvious charger early in his career, but as a result there wasn't that much room for improvement as a pro; he was successful early on but the next step was perhaps too risky. His running buddy getting busted in 2008 scared him off the program or at least made him scale his program back, but returning to a situation he felt comfortable with (and probably had protection in given what we now know) with Bruyneel rejuvenated him to some extent. Since the Landis allegations and his computer being confiscated, however, he's probably been in the position where he's got an agreed contract but is no longer motivated to take the risk.
 
Ah, so Popo going from GT podium to struggling to break the top-100 is because he doesn't want to take the risk, but Cobo going from crap to GT winner and back to crap again is because he is occasionally in no mood to train and the obvious doping is glossed over.