What level a rider would have needed to prevail Froome of the 2013 Tour pattern?

[jens_attacks]

only robobasso would have beaten him

and marco too probably because chris would have been alongside virenque and co

 

[spalco]

Uberfuelled Armstrong would have probably beaten him, as well as maybe Pantani, but not sure about any of them honestly.

 

[il_cobra]

 

[airstream]

The main issue is that this belongs in the clinic - anything we say can potentially be banned for. But I will say this: Froome does not have the panache yet that these other guys do. He rides for 20 minutes of intense effort and thats about it. Once he shows himself capable of doing an insane attack from far out, he will be a different class of rider. But I think with his TT ability he could beat Pantani (depending on the course) even if Pantani crushed him in the mountains.

LA - better climber, better TT'er
AC - about equal climber, better tactician/more guts
IB - better tactician
Pantani - better climber, worse TT'er

What guts? Put him in difficulty to rate guts.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

2014 TAWK Level, duh

 

[theyoungest]

2014 TAWK Level, duh

He'll need the level of a domestique for TGBM?

 

[ElChingon]

Using these past two years as a reference or baseline, the Tour is won with the help of a super domestique who will dominate the following year. First Froome, now Porte. So the first name in the title should be changed to Porte

Or better yet, which TEAM?

 

[Erythropoietin]

Froome is the new Armstrong.
He will dominate for 5 years (...)

 

[willbick]

i dont know why the mods dont automatically put any Froome thread into the clinic, as thats the level it always descends to

 

[happychappy]

His level is 'unbelievable', yet throw unpredictability in the 3-week race and he'll have no chance whatsoever regardless of his 'form'.

Froome is a rookie, he'll have the same fate as 2012 La Vuelta. Contador and Valverde are the smartest riders out there, and they'll come back for a 3rd week masacre.

Laughable as always. Keep them coming

 

[maxmartin]

There are too many clinic issues with this thread - all of the options are obvious dopers (all have been caught).

good catch, that explains a lot

 

[karlboss]

The only performance Froome would have matched would be Contador 2011. All the earlier ones would have put minutes into Froome.

 

[gustienordic]

The only performance Froome would have matched would be Contador 2011. All the earlier ones would have put minutes into Froome.

Doping in the 2000s was just so much more blatant than today (forgive me mods) Froome cant get away with winning everything he touches (he's close though)

 

[karlboss]

Doping in the 2000s was just so much more blatant than today (forgive me mods) Froome cant get away with winning everything he touches (he's close though)

Thank you for restating your opinion which belongs in the clinic in this thread again. I would say that opinion has no place here, posters/readers either know that already or need to be convinced, and this isn't the forum for convincing people of cycling's doping past. .

 

[darwin553]

Armstrong in the 03 tour.

 

[gustienordic]

Thank you for restating your opinion which belongs in the clinic in this thread again. I would say that opinion has no place here, posters/readers either know that already or need to be convinced, and this isn't the forum for convincing people of cycling's doping past. .

Oh excuse me, I was making a point. But either way, doping or no doping aside, I made a different point that Froome would be beaten by the other guys most likely because he attacks, but he attacks by making sure he is well within his limits and doesn't do anything without hearing from the DS first. Pantani for example rode much differently, a style which I think would have seen Froome blown away.

 

[Archibald]

Lol do you seriously think that you can beat me at joking and trolling in Froome/Schleck/Contador matters? What naivety...

pffft!!! Where's WonderLance when we need him

 

[karlboss]

Oh excuse me, I was making a point. But either way, doping or no doping aside, I made a different point that Froome would be beaten by the other guys most likely because he attacks, but he attacks by making sure he is well within his limits and doesn't do anything without hearing from the DS first. Pantani for example rode much differently, a style which I think would have seen Froome blown away.

You're excused.

The better question may have been, all things being equal who would win? Which in my opinion would see Froome out do Pantani also, but noone else.

 

[LaFlorecita]

The only performance Froome would have matched would be Contador 2011. All the earlier ones would have put minutes into Froome.

That is what I think as well.

 

[airstream]

That is what I think as well.

No you don't think so. You are just not able to control your emotions like most people who voted for point 6. Some of you guys obviously need even harsher lesson from Christopher in the 2014 Tour.

 

[Netserk]

No you don't think so. You are just not able to control your emotions like most people who voted for point 6. Some of you guys obviously need even harsher lesson from Christopher in the 2014 Tour.

What do you then think about those who voted for the 7th option? Mad?

RoboBasso >>> Froome

 

[LaFlorecita]

No you don't think so. You are just not able to control your emotions like most people who voted for point 6. Some of you guys obviously need even harsher lesson from Christopher in the 2014 Tour.

Yawn... It's getting tiresome.

 

[Alphabet]

RoboBasso and Lance 2002 would make for a tight race. Pantani's suicidal attack wouldn't have worked in '98 if the cold and the rain didn't crush Ullrich, and there were no such similar circumstances in this years Tour, so Froome would have beaten Pantani '98, and as for the rest, Froome would have beaten them.

Edit: You could also add Indurain '94 to Basso and Armstrong.

 

[airstream]

What do you then think about those who voted for the 7th option? Mad?

RoboBasso >>> Froome

Yes, RoboBasso >>> Froome is laughable given Basso was opposed by 85 kg climber Gutierrez and oldie Simoni.

 

[airstream]

Yawn... It's getting tiresome.

It was tiresome year ago too and it will be year after. Seriously if I were you and wanted to save my psychological health, I'd retrain to support Froome.