What stage will Chris Froome Pop?

[Le Baroudeur]

There are plenty of stallions on the route, and with all the neighing, whinnying, and snorting young clumsy horse is doing lately, one of them is bound to take a fancy to him and distract his focus for a while.

 

[cineteq]

That's is just wishful thinking. He had done the TdF in 2012, not as preparation for La Vuelta, he probably peaked at TdF. In the 2011 Vuelta he was at his top game throughout. No reason why that would be any different now.

You don't get it, do you? Froome is prone to make mistakes, and now he has no team.
Pop goes the World! => http://youtu.be/g0pauDXck_E

 

[wwabbit]

Vuelta Stage 8

 

[fantomas]

Vuelta Stage 8

I'm sure Valverde and Contador will find comfort in those 15 seconds Froome lost on that stage. That will really open up the race.

 

[Gubby Allen]

19 (Having won Alpe-D'Huez the previous day).

 

[The Hitch]

Chance has passed. Looking at the stages le Grand Bornand, Madeleine is too far out and Annency there is 25k of flat + 10 of descent between the climbs.

 

[fantomas]

You don't get it, do you? Froome is prone to make mistakes, and now he has no team.
Pop goes the World! => http://youtu.be/g0pauDXck_E

I didn't say he's invulnerable. I'm just saying that any wish he might crack is nothing but wishful thinking. He didn't crack in the 2011 Vuelta, which is pretty much all everyone, assuming you don't have inside info, has to go by when judging when he will crack in this year's TdF. He most likely wont. You have no reason to believe he will.

 

[Boeing]

An I was hoping this was in some way related to him losing it with his girlfriend running her mouth and cat fighting with all the Sky girlfriends

piece of work this woman

 

[cineteq]

I didn't say he's invulnerable. I'm just saying that any wish he might crack is nothing but wishful thinking. He didn't crack in the 2011 Vuelta, which is pretty much all everyone, assuming you don't have inside info, has to go by when judging when he will crack in this year's TdF. He most likely wont. You have no reason to believe he will.

Got it. You have been added to the list of members who will have to ask me for forgiveness at the end of Tour.

 

[mewmewmew13]

An I was hoping this was in some way related to him losing it with his girlfriend running her mouth and cat fighting with all the Sky girlfriends

piece of work this woman

she jumped all over me on twitter when I barely mentioned his name

ridiculous

 

[sprenten]

Chance has passed. Looking at the stages le Grand Bornand, Madeleine is too far out and Annency there is 25k of flat + 10 of descent between the climbs.

If Froome is clean and others are doping he will lose time over Madeleine perhaps 2-3 minutes worth which can't be made up on the descent and will be hard to bring back depending on the early break composition. A big break will be let go before the Madeleine, Froome's cracks will appear the second time up the Le Alpe. Fatigue is cumulative and will affect the non-dopers more with their 5 days at altitude. If this is a totally clean or totally doped peloton within the top 20 or so on GC then Froome wins this hands down barring a severe bout of fatigue. Even if he is clean going against dopers he still likely wins as he could even win atop Ventoux at his current fitness relative to the rest of the peloton against a doped field.

 

[blaxland]

They had a chance on stage 9 but .........

 

[Pippo_San]

If Froome is clean and others are doping he will lose time over Madeleine perhaps 2-3 minutes worth which can't be made up on the descent and will be hard to bring back depending on the early break composition. A big break will be let go before the Madeleine, Froome's cracks will appear the second time up the Le Alpe. Fatigue is cumulative and will affect the non-dopers more with their 5 days at altitude. If this is a totally clean or totally doped peloton within the top 20 or so on GC then Froome wins this hands down barring a severe bout of fatigue. Even if he is clean going against dopers he still likely wins as he could even win atop Ventoux at his current fitness relative to the rest of the peloton against a doped field.

This must be one of the most ridiculous theories I've ever read on these forums. You sir won the interwebs.

http://you-win-the-internet.com/?n=sprenten

 

[LaFlorecita]

she jumped all over me on twitter when I barely mentioned his name

ridiculous

When??

 

[Lucifa]

He won't. He has a power meter and the brain speaking through a radio. Can you say radio?

 

[sprenten]

This must be one of the most ridiculous theories I've ever read on these forums. You sir won the interwebs.

http://you-win-the-internet.com/?n=sprenten

You can't base doping assumptions at least EPO, transfusions, or sterols on one off data snapshots of a single climb or even a single stage for that matter you need longitudinal performance data and by that I mean a look at actual longitudinal data to see an actual fitness and fatigue profile. If there is little to no fatigue at altitude during a 3 week stage race or even at the end of a stage race like the Dauphine or Tour de Suisse that is how you catch your dopers. The rider who looks the most suspicious IMHO is Quintana. The most suspicious teams looks like Saxo and Movistar although I would not label any of the teams as suspect right now (not enough data). If we see crazy numbers on Ventoux from those teams, numbers that don't correspond to either Stage 8, Stage 9, or the ITT and then you can start talking about doping with greater confidence. Why in the world did Quintana attack so hard on Pailheres, but suffer so little on the Bonascre? Froome has a 2-3% fitness gain from the Dauphine which is valid doped or not, so what we should suspect is at some point for Froome's fitness to drop a little as his fatigue rises, if he is clean it will be either the Le Alpe the second time up or on the Madeleine the following day that the cracks will appear at their latest.

 

[LaFlorecita]

You can't base doping assumptions at least EPO, transfusions, or sterols on one off data snapshots of a single climb or even a single stage for that matter you need longitudinal performance data and by that I mean a look at actual longitudinal data to see an actual fitness and fatigue profile. If there is little to no fatigue at altitude during a 3 week stage race or even at the end of a stage race like the Dauphine or Tour de Suisse that is how you catch your dopers. The rider who looks the most suspicious IMHO is Quintana. The most suspicious teams looks like Saxo and Movistar although I would not label any of the teams as suspect right now (not enough data). If we see crazy numbers on Ventoux from those teams, numbers that don't correspond to either Stage 8, Stage 9, or the ITT and then you can start talking about doping with greater confidence. Why in the world did Quintana attack so hard on Pailheres, but suffer so little on the Bonascre? Froome has a 2-3% fitness gain from the Dauphine which is valid doped or not, so what we should suspect is at some point for Froome's fitness to drop a little as his fatigue rises, if he is clean it will be either the Le Alpe the second time up or on the Madeleine the following day that the cracks will appear at their latest.

sprenten you are new to the forum so it is normal you don't know it yet - we have a subforum for doping discussion, the clinic

 

[icefire]

ASO/UCI won't let him pop unless Mollema overtakes the Spaniards in GC

 

[del1962]

ASO/UCI won't let him pop unless Mollema overtakes the Spaniards in GC

You saying Froome will pop on stage 12

 

[IndianCyclist]

Just something off topic. When Froome was alone, who brought him drinks and food? I didnot see if he went back to the team car for those.

 

[wwabbit]

Just something off topic. When Froome was alone, who brought him drinks and food? I didnot see if he went back to the team car for those.

He picked up a musette at the feed zone.

 

[murali]

if anyone can make froome pop, i bet its going to be quintana.

i just hope tht movistar dont repeat the tactical mistake in stage 8.

 

[sprenten]

sprenten you are new to the forum so it is normal you don't know it yet - we have a subforum for doping discussion, the clinic

I do know it, but this thread asks a question that can only be answered in the context to whether a rider is clean or not and the rest of the field of contenders is clean or not which is something which cannot be known apriori. Based on what we have seen in this race so far I answered the question, if he is clean he pops relative to his stage 8 performance the second time up alpe or up the Madeleine, if he is not he likely doesn't pop.

 

[Archibald]

I do know it, but this thread asks a question that can only be answered in the context to whether a rider is clean or not and the rest of the field of contenders is clean or not which is something which cannot be known apriori. Based on what we have seen in this race so far I answered the question, if he is clean he pops relative to his stage 8 performance the second time up alpe or up the Madeleine, if he is not he likely doesn't pop.

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go directly to the Clinic,
do not pass GO,
do not collect $200...

 

[The Sheep]

It needs to rain for him to pop, skinny guys don't like the rain.