When did you know?

[Salvarani]

I definitely thought it was gonna be about "When did you know cycling was the sport for you?"

Ok.

 

[Netserk]

Swap their team in '22 and Pog takes 2+ minutes in the cobles' stage, and loses much less on the Granon and Hautacam. Ah and he also would take some seconds on Calais' stage by following WVA.

Vingegaard was the best climber in '22 and '23.
But TDF is not all about 10km+ climbs.

Swap their punctures and Vingegaard doesn't lose any time on the cobbles. If he goes hard all the way, he takes half a minute on Pogi in the last ITT.

 

[dercuforever]

Swap their punctures and Vingegaard doesn't lose any time on the cobbles. If he goes hard all the way, he takes half a minute on Pogi in the last ITT.

WVA took back 1 minute from Pog that day, after falling and chasing. Ving was already dropped before the puncture IIRC.
My point is that Pog was not outmatched in '22, have things played differently he could have won, because the route made this possible.
Which was not the case in '23, with that route the advantage Ving had with his climbing/tt could not be compensated, anyway you turn it.

 

[tobydawq]

Brian Holm doesn't think he's the best rider and it's only because we're getting carried away and that Van der Poel is the best because he has the rainbow jersey, proof of being the best cyclist, and that Vingegaard is the best because he won the Tour and that winning multiple monuments every year while podiuming every Grand Tour in your career and winning the world ranking four years in a row doesn't count. Because we're just getting carried away by the show of the moment.

Sorry, I have had a too heavy dosis of his nonsense this month and had to vent again.

 

[Alien Performance]

2nd best ?
joint best 1 day ?

kind of proves my point and contradicts 'in a class of his own'...dont you think ?

It's the combination that makes him special, the fact that he is a contender in basically every race he lines up at (excluding sprint stages, but I'm sure if he had to, he'd figure a way to win some of them)

Jonas is nowhere to be seen at one-day races, and MVDP can't climb a long hill to save his life - I like both of them as riders, but Pog is special because he can go toe-to-toe with both of them several times in the one season

 

[Alien Performance]

When did I know? I never even suspected it. Nobody ever told ME.

Sorry! I'll be sure to add you to the mailing list so you don't miss the next announcement

 

[Alien Performance]

The poem deserves it own recognition... and is a very specific question. It should have an own thread to discuss and people being able to share when they knew.

Not get caught up in a general discussion.

I actually have a backlog of poems ready to go; there was a while that I'd write one after particularly good races - I started the tradition after 2018 Lombardia

 

[Ilmaestro99]

It was when mou started posting nonstop in the Pogacar thread. Before that I always thought remco was better. Mou made me see the cold hard facts and recognise my flawed dogma.

 

[Alien Performance]

I definitely thought it was gonna be about "When did you know cycling was the sport for you?"

interesting question in its own right! probably during the 2010 TDF when I'd pretend to be Contodar and do little hill attacks out of the saddle in his style - the whole experience was joyous

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Penultimate stage of the Vuelta 2019. At that time I thought a GT monster was born and didn't think about one-day races.

 

[Froome]

It was when mou started posting nonstop in the Pogacar thread. Before that I always thought remco was better. Mou made me see the cold hard facts and recognise my flawed dogma.

Let's face it, you thought Remco was better before you know that Pogacar can do 8.2 w/kg in 12 minutes.

 

[Oldermanish]

2019 Vuelta.

June 2019: Tour of California.