I thought the denizens of this pub might find it interesting.the sceptic said:Who cares? Even if Horner did 1000 watts for an hour you would still think he is clean so whats the point?
We already passed that point two years ago in the Vuelta. Horner is the natural result of one team going full genius and treating everyone like mugs. At least this time the beneficiary is a rider with actual talent.FoxxyBrown1111 said:b.) I am over the point to hope Horner cracks. Now i want it to be a real Alien-Predator freak show*, so that even 12 year old boys & girls understand he is a fraud, and cycling is dead. Bye bye JV, Millar etc... Clean(ish) cycling may had exist for 2 years. Now we are back to the mid 90s... no, it´s worse than that.
In that case, you may want to stop posting on cycling message boards.FoxxyBrown1111 said:I won´t for two reasons:
a.) I am not a fanboy of Froome. I only mentioned all summer long his performances can be explained to some extent... I don´t care who wins GT´s unless Ullrich comes back when he is 42.
b.) I am over the point to hope Horner cracks. Now i want it to be a real Alien-Predator freak show*, so that even 12 year old boys & girls understand he is a fraud, and cycling is dead. Bye bye JV, Millar etc... Clean(ish) cycling may had exist for 2 years. Now we are back to the mid 90s... no, it´s worse than that.
* My prediction is 1.06 minutes gain by Horner vs. the rest of contenders.
Rodriguez? A Spanish pro implying someone has an unfair advantage at the Vuelta that's not Spanish? Isn't that illegal?Snitor said:Rodriguez talking about a tailwind only for Horner, Nibali saying "I can’t climb at 500 W. I was going at 430 W and that guy accelerated. What could I do?"..
It's so weird to see other riders making fun of the fact that it's an unbelievable perfomance.. It almost makes me wonder if they are clean..
actually, this is a flawed statistical surmisal.FoxxyBrown1111 said:No it´s not.
It shows on a large sample size that endurance sports performance indeed declines with age. It´s not improving like it is with Horner.
I guess you can appreciate how many of us felt watching Chris Froome make a mockery of the sport a few months ago then. Welcome to the party.FoxxyBrown1111 said:Now i want it to be a real Alien-Predator freak show*, so that even 12 year old boys & girls understand he is a fraud, and cycling is dead. Bye bye JV, Millar etc... Clean(ish) cycling may had exist for 2 years. Now we are back to the mid 90s... no, it´s worse than that.
Bravo.BroDeal said:We already passed that point two years ago in the Vuelta. Horner is the natural result of one team going full genius and treating everyone like mugs. At least this time the beneficiary is a rider with actual talent.
red_flanders said:I guess you can appreciate how many of us felt watching Chris Froome make a mockery of the sport a few months ago then. Welcome to the party.
Missed Scott's original post.OnTheRivet said:Speaking of SoCal masters, did you notice how many guys DIDN'T go to Nationals this year? With the spectre of dope controls at Nationals it looked like a ghost town up there. Not just SoCal, where were the Morgan Stanley Nor Cal guys at?Scott SoCal said:The fact that age group Q-times for marathons have significance in top level cycling seems a little over the top.
But hey, I've been in so SoCal masters crits that were real eye openers. Guys older than Horner....![]()
As Rick James would say, "give it to me, baby".D-Queued said:Missed Scott's original post.
If I were to give you two initials Scott, just two, do you think you would recognize them?
My bet is you wouldn't hesitate. And, I haven't even lived in So Cal for a decade or so.
Dave.
Sorta post lance. Where once it was seated rpm, now it out of the saddle grind.BroDeal said:There used to be "Merckx bend" bars with a deep drop. How long before we see "Horner width" bars? Maybe the ultimate will be Horner width with a deep Merckx drop.
be climbing seated.ulrikmm said:Do they still chek for electric bikes?
Plus, according to his own words,Scott SoCal said:Horner at least has a palmares. Nice, in fact. Yeah, he's 42, ....
Coathanger nailed onto the hotel wall kind of support?murali said:Plus, according to his own words,
Anyone who had even followed Horner for a single race will understand this. He has only got the kind of support that he deserves in the last leg of his career.
If it's something that's not banned, he should damn well take it imo, unless the risks are insane (which doesn't sound that likely to me if it's not banned already while it may already be used for over a yearburning said:Great post but I dont think that Contador will go all out in his doping anymore, he probably earned enough money to do everything he wants for the rest of his life, same goes for Wiggins aswell
I tought many guys here passed the point with Voecklers performance in the TdF 2011. I, OTOH gave the benefit of the doubt to riders. Voeckler and Froome were at least plausible to some extent (cleaner field, micro-doping "only", thus leading to unusal results; Alpe d`Huez gave a good explanation back then).BroDeal said:We already passed that point two years ago in the Vuelta. Horner is the natural result of one team going full genius and treating everyone like mugs. At least this time the beneficiary is a rider with actual talent.
Nice, LOL....argyllflyer said:Coathanger nailed onto the hotel wall kind of support?
Puppet on a string - back in fashion I hear.argyllflyer said:Coathanger nailed onto the hotel wall kind of support?