Who are the 'Riders' in the documents?

[roundabout]

Rider-1 is probably Savoldelli. Doubt that Rubiera or Beltran were Ferrari clients.

Rider-2 could be anyone. Heck, it could even be Padrnos because he rode with Savoldelli at Saeco and was used to USPS/Discovery supercharged trains.

 

[Ferminal]

Rider 1: Paolo Savoldelli
Rider 2: Viatcheslav Ekimov/Beltran/Rubiera
Rider 3: Adriano Baffi
Rider 4: Bobby Julich
Rider 5: Manuel Beltran/Ekimov/Rubiera
Rider 6: Jose Luis Rubiera/Ekimov/Beltran
Rider 7: Roberto Heras
Rider 8: Victor Hugo Pena
Rider 9: Matthew White
Rider 10: Jose Azevedo/Noval/Padrnos
Rider 11: Benjamin Noval/Azevedo/Padrnos
Rider 12: Pavel Padrnos/Azevedo/Noval
Rider 13: Chann Mcrae
Rider 14:
Rider 15: Chris Horner
Rider 16: Yaroslav Popovych
Rider 17:
Rider 18:
Rider 19: Steffen Kjaergaard

Other 1: Emilio Magni
Other 2: Bjarne Riis
Other 3: Duffy ( or #5)
Other 4:
Other 5:
Other 6:
Other 7: Rick Crawford
Other 8: Geert Leinders
Other 16: Lapage or Demol (?)
Other 17: Andy Rihs
Other 18: Motoman

 

[Von Mises]

Other-2 – Riis

Hamilton: "When I met with the CSC Team Director Other-2 he quickly refered me to the Spanish doping doctor, Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes, for blood tranfusions.

...

Other-2 also connected me with Dr.Luigi Cechini.“

 

[Von Mises]

Rider-7 - Roberto Heras

Jaksche: „...and the positive drug test of Rider-7 in the 2005 Tour of Spain.“

Heras failed in 2005 Vuelta.

 

[Wearing Thin]

Rider-1 is probably Savoldelli. Doubt that Rubiera or Beltran were Ferrari clients.

Payments from Rubiera were on the Health & Performance statements.

 

[Ferminal]

What was the name of the ringleader at Freiburg? That's Other 4.

 

[acoggan]

Rider 1: Paolo Salvodelli
Rider 2: Viatcheslav Ekimov
Rider 3: Adriano Baffi
Rider 4: Bobby Julich
Rider 5: Manuel Beltran
Rider 6: Jose Luis Rubiera
Rider 7: Roberto Heras
Rider 8: Victor Hugo Pena
Rider 9: Matthew White
Rider 10: Jose Azevedo
Rider 11: Benjamin Noval
Rider 12: Pavel Padrnos

Where I'm at so far, some are interchangeable like Azevedo/Noval.

1. Thanks for the summary.

2. Given the uncertainty, maybe it would help to list things as:

Rider 10: Jose Azevedo/Benjamin Noval
Rider 11: Jose Azevedo/Benjamin Noval

3. Other 7: Rick Crawford could be added.

4. One name I didn't see mentioned was Allen Lim. IIRC, Landis claimed that Lim administered transfusions to both he and Leipheimer at one point, and Lim was called to testify before the grand jury. Maybe Landis was just making things up (or confused Lim for someone else??), and/or maybe Lim denied being involved when he testified, such that USADA didn't follow up w/ him??

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

Rider 1: Paolo Salvodelli
Rider 2: Viatcheslav Ekimov
Rider 3: Adriano Baffi
Rider 4: Bobby Julich
Rider 5: Manuel Beltran
Rider 6: Jose Luis Rubiera
Rider 7: Roberto Heras
Rider 8: Victor Hugo Pena
Rider 9: Matthew White
Rider 10: Jose Azevedo
Rider 11: Benjamin Noval
Rider 12: Pavel Padrnos
Rider 13:
Rider 14:
Rider 15: Chris Horner
Rider 16: Yaroslav Popovych
Rider 17:
Rider 18:
Rider 19: Steffen Kjaergaard

Other 1: Emilio Magni
Other 2: Bjarne Riis
Other 3: Duffy (?)
Other 4:
Other 5:
Other 6:
Other 7: Rick Crawford
Other 8: Geert Leinders

How did you work out 5,6,7 and 8?
Why could not 2 be Rubiera or any of the other riders on the 2006 Giro team?

 

[theyoungest]

 

[hrotha]

Guys.
Savoldelli.

 

[Ferminal]

How did you work out 5,6,7 and 8?
Why could not 2 be Rubiera or any of the other riders on the 2006 Giro team?

Because 2 is mentioned elsewhere, riding the Tour in the early years, those were the only two who did the 2006 Giro and the 2001 Tour or whatever it was.

5/6/7/8 all mainstays of the Tour program with the earliest rider usually being mentioned first.

White makes sense as 9 because he did do the Vuelta that year and was mentioned by Floyd in his e-mail.

10/11/12 were from 2003/2004.

Guys.
Savoldelli.

Bad copy paste

 

[roundabout]

What was the name of the ringleader at Freiburg? That's Other 4.

Heinrich or Schmid?

or someone else entirely?

 

[Parrulo]

what does the report say on josé azevedo? i have been very surprised on how he has managed to slip under the radar for so long.

 

[sniper]

guys.
Savoldelli.

:d
.........

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

Because 2 is mentioned elsewhere, riding the Tour in the early years, those were the only two who did the 2006 Giro and the 2001 Tour or whatever it was.

5/6/7/8 all mainstays of the Tour program with the earliest rider usually being mentioned first.

White makes sense as 9 because he did do the Vuelta that year and was mentioned by Floyd in his e-mail.

10/11/12 were from 2003/2004.



Bad copy paste

Thank you Ferminal

 

[roundabout]

Payments from Rubiera were on the Health & Performance statements.

Yeah, having read other affidavits, he was a client as well.

Rubiera as rider 2 seems like a good bet. He did the 2001 Tour, was a GC rider/main helper, was a client of Ferrari, but felt ripped off that only Savoldelli was offered EPO delivery. Why not?

I do like the picture of Eki as Hog-lite though. "Where's my dope, what do you mean I have to find dope by myself?"

 

[sniper]

that is 99% savoldelli. discover(m)y doping channels leader at the giro then.

hehehe
...

 

[Ferminal]

Heinrich or Schmid?

or someone else entirely?

I guess it's Schmid, but I don't understand why they would cover it up when the Freiburg investigation dealt with him.

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

The 2001 Vuelta team had Rubiera, Pena, Heras, McRae, Joachim, Dean, Cruz and White in it.

Rider 13??

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

We should also include those named but not redacted as well. Possoni, Rogers, Vino, Kash etc

And what about Yates?

 

[Ferminal]

Ok I'm done, some of them I can't seem to find reference to.

Rider 13 could be Chann/Cruz/Joachim/Dean.

14 could be anyone but I lean Rasmussen.

 

[minessa]

We should also include those named but not redacted as well. Possoni, Rogers, Vino, Kash etc

And what about Yates?

Why are some names redacted and others not?

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Why are some names redacted and others not?

I believe that they are people who have cases pending or are likely to be charged.

 

[Wearing Thin]

I believe that they are people who have cases pending or are likely to be charged.

If Rider 4 is Julich though, it will only be when referred to in relation to doping activity. Julich is named in other affidavits, but these statements are not implicating any wrongdoing.

 

[Skibby the bush kangaroo]

The 2001 Vuelta team had Rubiera, Pena, Heras, McRae, Joachim, Dean, Cruz and White in it.

Rider 13??

Pretty sure McRae is rider 13, because this article http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/22/sports/22iht-bike_ed3_.html says they roomed together during the 2001 Vuelta.