Who do you Least want to win the Tour

[Waterloo Sunrise]

That is one way of looking at it.
For example, I wouldn't let an accused pedophile babysit my children.

Maybe not a great example, but my point is, a cycling race is some what different. The argument that AC shouldn't be racing is fair, it is annoying that it takes this long.

Sure, but it's not his fault - he went through the proper process, was suspended whilst he should have been suspended, and then found innocent.

Far worse to see the brother of a creepy gynocologist user who magically peaks once a year win a race without any proper competition by enacting special bans on people who have been found innocent, because someone else wishes to appeal.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Regardless if it's his fault or not, you can't blame individuals for not liking him racing. And it could be argued that AC's legal team requested an extension (which apparently is why the date got changed?) so AC could indeed ride, but that is a stab in the dark on my behalf.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Regardless if it's his fault or not, you can't blame individuals for not liking him racing. And it could be argued that AC's legal team requested an extension (which apparently is why the date got changed?) so AC could indeed ride, but that is a stab in the dark on my behalf.

I'm not blaming anyone for anything, i'm just saying I disagree.

You can't blame individuals for disagreeing with individuals not liking him for racing

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

I would be appalled to see any middle aged man from Radioshack win, but that is vanishingly unlikely.

Of the rest, I would least like to see Contador win. Firstly, because I don't believe he should be riding. Secondly, because I never like to see the dominant favourite win any race. Thirdly, because I really don't want to see another Indurain or Armstrong era where one rider throttles all excitement and interest from the most important bike race of the season.

 

[c&cfan]

I would be appalled to see any middle aged man from Radioshack win, but that is vanishingly unlikely.

Of the rest, I would least like to see Contador win. Firstly, because I don't believe he should be riding. Secondly, because I never like to see the dominant favourite win any race. Thirdly, because I really don't want to see another Indurain or Armstrong era where one rider throttles all excitement and interest from the most important bike race of the season.

so what are you doing here? enjoying races from 10 to 10 years?

 

[Bavarianrider]

Schleck Andy or Frank

 

[c&cfan]

Schleck Andy or Frank

do you want to know what would be awesome if contador isn't there? frank backstabbing andy that would be really good.

 

[thirteen]

do you want to know what would be awesome if contador isn't there? frank backstabbing andy that would be really good.

that thought did make me smile

 

[c&cfan]

that thought did make me smile

frank still has potential. will he just think about his brother? that scenario would be so cool! it would be legendary! we would use it has theme to debate and examples from all eternity! cain number 2

 

[hrotha]

do you want to know what would be awesome if contador isn't there? frank backstabbing andy that would be really good.

Can't happen. They share the same brain. You wouldn't stab yourself, would you?

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

so what are you doing here? enjoying races from 10 to 10 years?

Are you really such a demented worshipper of prohibitive favourites that you can't imagine anyone enjoying professional sports without cheering for one?

 

[thirteen]

frank still has potential. will he just think about his brother? that scenario would be so cool! it would be legendary! we would use it has theme to debate and examples from all eternity! cain number 2

no, he doesn't... unless everything goes very pear-shaped.

but the idea did make me smile because i used to quite like Fränk -- but not so much since he started riding for his younger brother. it's like he lost a little bit of his soul...

 

[c&cfan]

Are you really such a demented worshipper of prohibitive favourites that you can't imagine anyone enjoying professional sports without cheering for one?

i don't cheer for anyone in lots of professional sports. but your post does not make sense at all. before contador and andy you had lance and ulrich, before them you had indurain, before them lemond and fignon, before them hinaul, before him merckx, before him anquetil.........................................................................................................................................

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

i don't cheer for anyone in lots of professional sports. but your post does not make sense at all. before contador and andy you had lance and ulrich, before them you had indurain, before them lemond and fignon, before them hinaul, before him merckx, before him anquetil.

Yes, of course.

And when I was a kid I cheered for Indurain's rivals and then Armstrong's rivals and now Contador's rivals. The outsider, the underdog, the guy who has to be a bit clever or a bit lucky to beat an athletically superior (clinic issues aside) opponent. The rider for whom a win would be career defining.

Not the guy for whom yet another win means nothing except to his accountant and his sponsor's accountants. Not the guy who is expected to win this time and every time. Not the guy whose mere presence makes the race predictable.

I'm not sure how possible it is to actually explain this to someone who apparently enjoyed watching Michael Schumacher driving off into the distance over and over again. It's like conversing with an alien.

 

[El Pistolero]

Yes, of course.

And when I was a kid I cheered for Indurain's rivals and then Armstrong's rivals and now Contador's rivals. The outsider, the underdog, the guy who has to be a bit clever or a bit lucky to beat an athletically superior (clinic issues aside) opponent. The rider for whom a win would be career defining.

Not the guy for whom yet another win means nothing except to his accountant and his sponsor's accountants. Not the guy who is expected to win this time and every time. Not the guy whose mere presence makes the race predictable.

I'm not sure how possible it is to actually explain this to someone who apparently enjoyed watching Michael Schumacher driving off into the distance over and over again. It's like conversing with an alien.

Yeah, because the Tour 2007, Giro 2008, Vuelta 2008 and Tour 2010 were such dominating victories and oh so boring

Your analogy makes little sense. This isn't F1 and Contador won his GTs in a totally different way. Go cry somewhere else about the underdog. Burghardt killed him in 2007.

 

[c&cfan]

Yes, of course.

And when I was a kid I cheered for Indurain's rivals and then Armstrong's rivals and now Contador's rivals. The outsider, the underdog, the guy who has to be a bit clever or a bit lucky to beat an athletically superior (clinic issues aside) opponent. The rider for whom a win would be career defining.

Not the guy for whom yet another win means nothing except to his accountant and his sponsor's accountants. Not the guy who is expected to win this time and every time. Not the guy whose mere presence makes the race predictable.

I'm not sure how possible it is to actually explain this to someone who apparently enjoyed watching Michael Schumacher driving off into the distance over and over again. It's like conversing with an alien.

making it personal are we?
pathetic human being, i bet that when you are alone in your room aliens are your only company.

what happened to those rivals?

they lost. you lost. get lost.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

making it personal are we?
pathetic human being, i bet that when you are alone in your room aliens are your only company.

what happened to those rivals?

they lost. you lost. get lost.

I wasn't making it personal at all.

In fact, I was carefully avoiding expressing a view on the psychological and moral flaws which lead people to habitually root for dominant favourites. I do think however that your post above illustrates them quite well.

For you, and for other worshippers of whoever is most successful at a particular time, your own self-worth is bound up in vicarious enjoyment of someone else's dominance. You have a fear of losing, a fear that you yourself are in fact a loser, and that leads you to fear any tenuous association with an outsider, an athlete whose victory isn't a foregone conclusion. Rather than cheer for someone for a whom a win would be life changing, you prefer to bask in the dimly reflected glory of the superman.

As for company, I'm sure that your semen-stained pictures of Schumacher and Contador will save you from any loneliness.

 

[c&cfan]

I wasn't making it personal at all.

1.In fact, I was carefully avoiding expressing a view on the psychological and moral flaws which lead people to root for dominant favourites. I do think however that your post above illustrates them quite well.

2-For you, and for other worshippers of whoever is most successful at a particular time, your own self-worth is bound up in vicarious enjoyment of someone else's dominance. You have a fear of losing, a fear that you yourself are in fact a loser, and that leads you to fear any tenuous association with an outsider, an athlete whose victory isn't a foregone conclusion. 3-Rather than cheer for someone for a whom a win would be life changing, you prefer to bask in the dimly reflected glory of the superman.

4-As for company, I'm sure that your semen-stained pictures of Schumacher and Contador will save you from any loneliness.

I had to answer to this one, it's amazing!

1- oh realllyy? now i am sad.

2-totally right.

3- i cheered for tiralongo. does it count? i have this strange ability. i don't have to be black or white. i don't have to eat rice or potatoes. i can be grey and i can eat both.

4- you can bet on that one the problem is that i can't even see them anymore... i guess i need new photos or to start enjoying vettel.

 

[shadowblue]

I wasn't making it personal at all.

In fact, I was carefully avoiding expressing a view on the psychological and moral flaws which lead people to habitually root for dominant favourites. I do think however that your post above illustrates them quite well.

For you, and for other worshippers of whoever is most successful at a particular time, your own self-worth is bound up in vicarious enjoyment of someone else's dominance. You have a fear of losing, a fear that you yourself are in fact a loser, and that leads you to fear any tenuous association with an outsider, an athlete whose victory isn't a foregone conclusion. Rather than cheer for someone for a whom a win would be life changing, you prefer to bask in the dimly reflected glory of the superman.

As for company, I'm sure that your semen-stained pictures of Schumacher and Contador will save you from any loneliness.

and you wonder why civilized people think that the cn forums are a joke.

 

[shadowblue]

I wasn't making it personal at all.

In fact, I was carefully avoiding expressing a view on the psychological and moral flaws which lead people to habitually root for dominant favourites. I do think however that your post above illustrates them quite well.

For you, and for other worshippers of whoever is most successful at a particular time, your own self-worth is bound up in vicarious enjoyment of someone else's dominance. You have a fear of losing, a fear that you yourself are in fact a loser, and that leads you to fear any tenuous association with an outsider, an athlete whose victory isn't a foregone conclusion. Rather than cheer for someone for a whom a win would be life changing, you prefer to bask in the dimly reflected glory of the superman.

As for company, I'm sure that your semen-stained pictures of Schumacher and Contador will save you from any loneliness.

and you wonder why civilized people think that the cn forums are a joke.

 

[Captain_Cavman]

Can't happen. They share the same brain. You wouldn't stab yourself, would you?

I wonder who they gave it to for safekeeping during LBL?

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I'd love to see none of the main favorites win, that would be refreshing.

To see Contador and Shleck riding the final 3k of each climb against each other, with Basso waiting to see who will crack, doesn't interest me that much.

I'm also hoping that 2012 goes back to a course like the years Indurain won, where there are close to 300km of total TT distance. Be a good change for one year at least.

 

[hrotha]

I wonder who they gave it to for safekeeping during LBL?

I assume they left it behind at the Saxo headquarters.

 

[El Pistolero]

I'd love to see none of the main favorites win, that would be refreshing.

To see Contador and Shleck riding the final 3k of each climb against each other, with Basso waiting to see who will crack, doesn't interest me that much.

I'm also hoping that 2012 goes back to a course like the years Indurain won, where there are close to 300km of total TT distance. Be a good change for one year at least.

That would still make Contador win, a lot easier.

 

[Captain_Cavman]

That would still make Contador win, a lot easier.

Maybe...If he's there...