It makes him limited. He can get 20 seconds at most (plus bonification when available) on a good day with his attack in the final 1500 meters instead of being able to ride away and get 30-40 seconds or more.
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Moondance said:Silly of me, that does make sense, quite clever too.... I always thought the Spanish had a Prime Minister though, not a President, my mistake, I would've probably understood it otherwise..
Actually, now that I think about it, it is actually a little confusing of the Spaniards, since they do have a Monarch who acts as the Head of State, and then to also have a President is mucho confusing.
ergmonkey said:If you read my posts rather than rushing to hate Rasmussen, you'll see that Basso is one of the riders (along with Evans) whom I rate as being right at the top near Rasmussen.
ergmonkey said:If you read my posts rather than rushing to hate Rasmussen, you'll see that Basso is one of the riders (along with Evans) whom I rate as being right at the top near Rasmussen.
luckyboy said:Isn't this poll about who is the best of the rest at this moment?
roundabout said:Lol, I hate Rasmussen because I think that a singular dominant Tour doesn't make him as good as you think he is? Really?
ergmonkey said:Ask Hitch.
If so, you might want to remember that Ricco is doing a lot less racing than Rasmussen, though.
Libertine Seguros said:Pozzovivo should probably be in there. He won more or less every mountain stage on the Italian calendar last year. Urán, not yet, and Sastre, not any more. Certainly a year or two ago Sastre had to be included. If we include Cadel we have to include Menchov, who has probably shown more on long climbs than Cadel.
luckyboy said:@Libertine Seguros
Didn't start watching the Vuelta til 2007.
First Tour 2003 (13yo), started watching all stages 2005. Giro + classics came in 2006.
It's really hard to find footage of Vueltas to download.
luckyboy said:Isn't this poll about who is the best of the rest at this moment?
The Hitch said:Rasmussen is 37 and isnt showing the brilliant form of 2007. Ricco might not be racing but his 2008 performances were those of a young man and his performance last year suggested he was on his way back.
Cobblestoned said:Of course me, followed by Contador, Ricco, the brother(s) and then Basso.
El Pistolero said:At least he cal still ride a bike. Very unlikely that the Cobra will be back, so he shouldn't be in the poll imo.
The Hitch said:Im asking for the best climber. Whether the UCI lets him compete or not is another matter.
nvpacchi said:Cyclingtorrents has a bunch of Vuelta editions on free leech (including 2006).
Anton was real impressive that Vuelta (only 23). At Calar Alto he rode away from Piti, Vino, and Sastre in very impressive fashion.
greenedge said:Agree with the menchov part he should be in there, but Cadel has trumped Menchov every yr. Last yr crashed but still hammered Giro and was going well in tour. 2006 came 4th Menchov, 5th. Cadel also started a bit later at TDF than Menchov. Cadel's heyday was in 07 and 08, basso's before. Sastre you're right. However Uran will prove himself this yr along with Henao, Monsalve and santoro.
La Pandera said:Knowing your allegiance how can we really take you seriously?? Menchov reaches his best finish in the Tour and you want to still rate Evans above him based on last year's results? Everyone was less than healthy by the end of the Giro so Evans can't use that excuse for not making the podium. Remember his broken elbow occurred at the Tour not the Giro.
I'm not sure I understand the bit about Cadel starting "a bit later at TdF than Menchov".
El Pistolero said:Later in his career.
Menchov won the white jersey if I remember correctly, so he has a point.
But I give the benefit of the doubt to Menchov. He won 2 GTs and Cuddles 0.
greenedge said:Menchov in 2003, won white jersey coming 11th. Cadel started in 2005 coming 8th. In TDF Cadel has finished higher than Menchov each time except for last yr in the tour. Also Menchov finished 3rd in 2008. I agree Menchov is good, not disputing facts he won two tours, just saying cadel would probably beat him. Also it has nothing to do with national allegiances. He crashed but he had the yellow jersey on still quite an accomplishment. At Giro he went well but did not crash i know. Cadel animates each race. Besides last yr he beat a rider with a cracked elbow into 3rd place.[/B]