Who will win 2012 Tour de France

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Klodi doesnt have to confirm anything. He and le Tour is organic whole and even not in the best seasons he got himself together and rode the Tour well. With Bruyneel, Kloden will fret and fume at all. He is a top of cycling practicality and intellect.

Absolutely ****ing bat****

 

[airstream]

Absolutely ****ing bat****

 

[will10]

Roughly:+/- a few seconds
/snip

lmao off at this post.
bookmarked for future reference

 

[Bavarianrider]

lmao off at this post.
bookmarked for future reference

Wouldn't it be even better and more interesting if you did a list too?
More opinions, more information. And after the Tour we can compare.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

It's an english expression which means I think you are mad.

'organic whole'

'practical and intellect'

Borderline unintelligible - I only know what you meant because I knew you were a fanboy for that lot already.

 

[Fetisoff]

People taking BR's posts seriously. Man oh man. What is this, December? God please bring on some meaningful racing FAST!

 

[Delicato]

Well, that was quite insane from you and Waterloo Sunrise rightfully called it the batsheet

 

[burning]

Klodi doesnt have to confirm anything. He and le Tour is organic whole and even not in the best seasons he got himself together and rode the Tour well. With Bruyneel, Kloden will fret and fume at all. He is a top of cycling practicality and intellect.

Dude, what are you smoking in your home?

 

[Froome19]

Of course this Klöden numbers can only be true if he reaches his potential once again. Hey and bit of wishful thinking must be allowed
If he does. in a Gt i rate him at least as good as Wiggins.

In my calculations I asuemd that everyone reches his TT potential in GT.

Well:
GTs where Kloden is going well since 2009 TT: Kloden Vs Wiggins

Tour de France, Stage 18 : Annecy I.T.T. 6. 9.
Tour de France, Stage 1 : Monaco I.T.T. 3. 4

I make that 2-0 to Wiggins.
Kloden has very rarely been able to reach his "potential" in the last 4 years
And when he has in the 2009 ITT, Wiggins beat him...

 

[airstream]

Dude, what are you smoking in your home?

On what regarding Kloden don't you agree with?

 

[burning]

On what regarding Kloden don't you agree with?

Everything? And your way of writing too?

 

[Red Rick]

The CaNibali will eat them all

 

[SafeBet]

It's just ridiculous how overrated you become when you decide to avoid all confrontations with the world's best.

Like it's his fault if Liquigas forced him to ride Giro 2011 just to please Basso, or Giro 2010 because Pellizotti was caught.

And you must've missed a couple monuments in the last year or so.

 

[airstream]

Everything? And your way of writing too?

OK, I was trying to say that Klodi is a rider who can defend on the climbs as no one else. His experience and calculation truly amaze in this regard. And probably his TT capacities don't need to be explained.

If you clearly understood that and simply are ridiculing me, don't suffer. You can put me on ignore. Probably, it is the way out of the situation for both.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Roughly:+/- a few seconds

Prologe:
Martin +30
Wiggins+30
Klöden +20
Evans +20
Menchov +20
Sanchez + 20
Danielson +20
Leipheimer +20
Westra +20
Gesink + 15
Nibali +10
Horner +5

First TT
Martin: + 2:50
Wiggins: + 2:10
Klöden + 2:00
Evans + 2:10
Menchov + 1:30
Sanchez + 1:25
Danielson + 1:20
Leipheimer + 1:30
Westra: + 0:50
Gesink: + 0:50
Nibali' +0:40
Horner: + 05

Second TT
Martin: + 4:00
Wiggins + 2:10
Klöden + 3:00
Evans + 2:20
Menchov: + 2:30
Sanchez +1:30
Danielson + 1:50
Leipheimer + 2:00
Westra + 1:00
Gesink + 0:55
Nibali + 0:50
Horner + 0:05

Overall:
Martin + 7:20
Wiggins + 4:50
Evans +4:50
Klöden + 5:20
Menchov +4:20
Sanchez + 3:15
Danielson +3:30
Leipheimer + 3:50
Westra + 2:10
Gesink +2:00
Nibali +1:40
Horner + 0:15

Haha, you really believe danielson will TT better than Gesink after the ToC??

 

[theyoungest]

Haha, you really believe danielson will TT better than Gesink after the ToC??

Danielson got 10th in the final TT of the Tour last year. Gesink should be very happy if he gets a similar result.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Danielson got 10th in the final TT of the Tour last year. Gesink should be very happy if he gets a similar result.

Exactly.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Danielson got 10th in the final TT of the Tour last year. Gesink should be very happy if he gets a similar result.

Gesink can do much better than that. Believe me.

 

[Froome19]

Danielson got 10th in the final TT of the Tour last year. Gesink should be very happy if he gets a similar result.

He may be happy with the result, but he has the ability to produce far superior TT results than Danielson's

 

[Bavarianrider]

Yeah right:
Gesink has a great history of flat 50km TT

109. GESINK Robert 195 RABOBANK 1h 09' 29" + 08' 33"

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yeah right:
Gesink has a great history of flat 50km TT

109. GESINK Robert 195 RABOBANK 1h 09' 29" + 08' 33"

When was that? Because he seems to have improved his time trial skills.

 

[Havetts]

Yeah right:
Gesink has a great history of flat 50km TT

109. GESINK Robert 195 RABOBANK 1h 09' 29" + 08' 33"

Not even going to bother.

When was that? Because he seems to have improved his time trial skills.

2010 Tour de France.

 

[Lanark]

Yeah right:
Gesink has a great history of flat 50km TT

109. GESINK Robert 195 RABOBANK 1h 09' 29" + 08' 33"

Don't worry, he can make up the difference in the mountains
6. GESINK Robert RAB 01'40"
162. MARTIN Tony THR 31'46"

Tony Martin needs what, 6 time trials to make up a single mountain stage?

 

[Bavarianrider]

When was that? Because he seems to have improved his time trial skills.

Actualy it was the Tour 2010. His best GT in his career.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Actualy it was the Tour 2010. His best GT in his career.

Okay, was just wondering.