Who will win 2013 GIRO?

[movingtarget]

Fuglsang's media activity obviously prevails over his results. Overly strange decision by Astana.

Astana must be aiming for the top 20 on GC.

 

[airstream]

Astana must be aiming for the top 20 on GC.

Yes, but I think it could be too optimistic too. Fuglsang's recovery still causes many questions. He can easily finish one of the 3rd week stages in a sprinter grupetto.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Dombrowski is a pure GT rider, pretty much the only races which suit him. It makes a lot of sense to do the Giro which has more of his terrain in three weeks than a whole calendar of non-GT races.

I doubt he will do a gt. the guy is 21 and been riding for only few years

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

The Gila ITT was up and down was it not? California would be a better indicator as to his abilities as a rouleur.

the gila itt was done at 47 km/h so it's definitely good indication of itt skills

 

[janraaskalt]

I doubt he will do a gt. the guy is 21 and been riding for only few years

The Vuelta would be an option, if the season goes well. Maybe only 2 weeks, but will be very valuable for the future.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

If i were Sky i would send JTL to the Giro, if they want him to lose weight quickly.
Everyone keeps forgetting Boswell.

losing weight?? dombrowski is 188 and 68 kg

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Fuglsang's media activity obviously prevails over his results. Overly strange decision by Astana.

astana often completely miss the boat with their transfers. nibali will be another huge disapointment, then there's brajkovic, kreuziger and a ton of others

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

astana often completely miss the boat with their transfers. nibali will be another huge disapointment, then there's brajkovic, kreuziger and a ton of others

ton? Kreuziger have not been as good as we hoped, but noone thought Brajko would do any better than a top 10 in the tour.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Yes, but I think it could be too optimistic too. Fuglsang's recovery still causes many questions. He can easily finish one of the 3rd week stages in a sprinter grupetto.

Fuglsang flat out sucks on steep climbs, too. Kitzbuheler Horn proved that he didn't improve in that regard. He got his *** beat by Di Luca and a number of third and fourth-tier climbers.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

ton? Kreuziger have not been as good as we hoped, but noone thought Brajko would do any better than a top 10 in the tour.

I will post a number of the abysmal transfers astana have gotten in recent years and brajkovic makes a ton of money and they got him to be a leader in gt. just as much of a joke as fuglsang is now and he's also making a ton of money at astana

brajkovic
kreuziger
petrov
bozic
masciarelli
seeldrayers
allan davis
pereiro


and those are just from past few years

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Fuglsang flat out sucks on steep climbs, too. Kitzbuheler Horn proved that he didn't improve in that regard. He got his *** beat by Di Luca and a number of third and fourth-tier climbers.

exactly. also the stretch is off, of him as well. we haven't seen improvement in a few years, not even in hgis specialties like itt or rouleur

 

[airstream]

Fuglsang flat out sucks on steep climbs, too. Kitzbuheler Horn proved that he didn't improve in that regard. He got his *** beat by Di Luca and a number of third and fourth-tier climbers.

True. I'd even say on the climbs with the average grade >=7%. Any continuous 9 and more % sector and ... Fuglsang is dropped like a cork. Jani got slimmer for the last few years and his TT is for him too. Why do Astana prefer Fuglsang?? Probably he guaranteed them something?

 

[Eshnar]

Fuglsang flat out sucks on steep climbs, too. Kitzbuheler Horn proved that he didn't improve in that regard. He got his *** beat by Di Luca and a number of third and fourth-tier climbers.

are there steep climbs in the Tour?

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I will post a number of the abysmal transfers astana have gotten in recent years and brajkovic makes a ton of money and they got him to be a leader in gt. just as much of a joke as fuglsang is now and he's also making a ton of money at astana

brajkovic - ton of money? you got his salary, please share with me
kreuziger - agreed
petrov - He is a good domestique, was he any better before?
bozic - yea, we all knew he was the new Cav...
masciarelli - retired because of something, we don't know why (?)
seeldrayers - He was bought as a dometique (what i mean by that is that he came to Astana after the most extreme hype had dissapeared)
allan davis - never that good anyway, but i agree that he has improved in GreenEdge)
pereiro - .......


and those are just from past few years

...............

 

[airstream]

are there steep climbs in the Tour?

It is obviously the case for Fuglsang.

 

[Ivan_Basso_77]

Ivan Basso will win his 3rd Giro in 2013

Ivan Basso is going to disappoint many British who watch cycling since this year's Tour

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

True. I'd even say on the climbs with the average grade >=7%. Any continuous 9 and more % sector and ... Fuglsang is dropped like a cork. Jani got slimmer for the last few years and his TT is for him too. Why do Astana prefer Fuglsang?? Probably he guaranteed them something?

brajkovic got slimmer? he was 177x52 he only got heavier and thank god for that

 

[greenedge]

ton? Kreuziger have not been as good as we hoped, but noone thought Brajko would do any better than a top 10 in the tour.

losing weight?? dombrowski is 188 and 68 kg

JTL-http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tiernan-locke-hoping-to-ride-a-grand-tour-in-2013

I did for Brajkovic, it was the only reason he was in my CQ team.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

sorry, my bad. I thought was about donbrowski, but I read now you said jtl. I hate those shorts of names

 

[movingtarget]

Ivan Basso is going to disappoint many British who watch cycling since this year's Tour

Ivan is on the slippery slope, heading in the same direction as Dennis Menchov. He won't make the podium I don't think. His last good grand tour was the 2010 Giro.

 

[The Hitch]

Ivan is on the slippery slope, heading in the same direction as Dennis Menchov. He won't make the podium I don't think. His last good grand tour was the 2010 Giro.

He was ok.in 2011 tour considering his preparation was badly messed up by the may etna crash

 

[movingtarget]

He was ok.in 2011 tour considering his preparation was badly messed up by the may etna crash

I suppose, all things considered, it wasn't a bad performance. I thought he was disappointing in the this year's Giro though.

 

[airstream]

brajkovic got slimmer? he was 177x52 he only got heavier and thank god for that

Such riders don't exist. He would have blown away from the peloton on flat. Brajkovic is 58 as minimum.



Previous 5 years clearly show that TT's decide more than mountains if we look into contenders of comparable level. There is a 50 km TT. Basso will lose to Wiggins 3 minutes in case of the best scenario. The main problem is he can not get away on pedalabele climbs and the stages are not difficult enough that the opponents would be dropped due to tiredness. Next year he won't have a team. I don't see Basso get on the podium if 2-3 main contenders won't fail.

 

[Jason_Mercier]

I suppose, all things considered, it wasn't a bad performance. I thought he was disappointing in the this year's Giro though.

Very very disappointing if we consider Scarponi wasn't the Scarponi of 2011 and Kreuziger did a crappy race. The shadow of the 2010 Basso would had won the Giro.

 

[Parrulo]

Very very disappointing if we consider Scarponi wasn't the Scarponi of 2011 and Kreuziger did a crappy race. The shadow of the 2010 Basso would had won the Giro.

i would even add "easily"