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DFA123 said:Very difficult to call. I would make Valverde or Nibali favourites, because they still seemed to be improving in form by the end of the TdF.
Think Quintana could be too young to do well in consecutive tours and Froome has been losing form since the second week of the Tour.
An outsider could take it in theory, but there is such a gap in quality between the top 4 and the rest that it's unlikely imo.
Arredondo said:DFA123 said:Very difficult to call. I would make Valverde or Nibali favourites, because they still seemed to be improving in form by the end of the TdF.
Think Quintana could be too young to do well in consecutive tours and Froome has been losing form since the second week of the Tour.
An outsider could take it in theory, but there is such a gap in quality between the top 4 and the rest that it's unlikely imo.
In the Tour: yes
In the Vuelta: no
Guys like Aru, Purito and Landa are not that less then someone like Bala or Froome. I think the first two can get the podium by their own strenght. Aru can even win it.
Beating Quintana will be impossible though. Aru will be the closest.
Arredondo said:DFA123 said:Very difficult to call. I would make Valverde or Nibali favourites, because they still seemed to be improving in form by the end of the TdF.
Think Quintana could be too young to do well in consecutive tours and Froome has been losing form since the second week of the Tour.
An outsider could take it in theory, but there is such a gap in quality between the top 4 and the rest that it's unlikely imo.
In the Tour: yes
In the Vuelta: no
Guys like Aru, Purito and Landa are not that less then someone like Bala or Froome. I think the first two can get the podium by their own strenght. Aru can even win it.
Beating Quintana will be impossible though. Aru will be the closest.
DFA123 said:Arredondo said:DFA123 said:Very difficult to call. I would make Valverde or Nibali favourites, because they still seemed to be improving in form by the end of the TdF.
Think Quintana could be too young to do well in consecutive tours and Froome has been losing form since the second week of the Tour.
An outsider could take it in theory, but there is such a gap in quality between the top 4 and the rest that it's unlikely imo.
In the Tour: yes
In the Vuelta: no
Guys like Aru, Purito and Landa are not that less then someone like Bala or Froome. I think the first two can get the podium by their own strenght. Aru can even win it.
Beating Quintana will be impossible though. Aru will be the closest.
Don't forget there is a reasonably flat and fairly long time trial. Both of those guys will lose time there. Also, neither are really explosive enough to take many bonus seconds.
I think Valverde will be leader for Movistar and will also comfortably beat Aru. He always does better in the vuelta than the Tour and will hoover up the time bonuses.
damian13ster said:Arredondo said:DFA123 said:Very difficult to call. I would make Valverde or Nibali favourites, because they still seemed to be improving in form by the end of the TdF.
Think Quintana could be too young to do well in consecutive tours and Froome has been losing form since the second week of the Tour.
An outsider could take it in theory, but there is such a gap in quality between the top 4 and the rest that it's unlikely imo.
In the Tour: yes
In the Vuelta: no
Guys like Aru, Purito and Landa are not that less then someone like Bala or Froome. I think the first two can get the podium by their own strenght. Aru can even win it.
Beating Quintana will be impossible though. Aru will be the closest.
What are you talking about? He had a dream route in Tour and failed to win even a single stage. Vuelta, with really steep and punchy finishes and long time trial is not that good for him. And only two multi-mountain stages
DFA123 said:Arredondo said:DFA123 said:Very difficult to call. I would make Valverde or Nibali favourites, because they still seemed to be improving in form by the end of the TdF.
Think Quintana could be too young to do well in consecutive tours and Froome has been losing form since the second week of the Tour.
An outsider could take it in theory, but there is such a gap in quality between the top 4 and the rest that it's unlikely imo.
In the Tour: yes
In the Vuelta: no
Guys like Aru, Purito and Landa are not that less then someone like Bala or Froome. I think the first two can get the podium by their own strenght. Aru can even win it.
Beating Quintana will be impossible though. Aru will be the closest.
Don't forget there is a reasonably flat and fairly long time trial. Both of those guys will lose time there. Also, neither are really explosive enough to take many bonus seconds.
I think Valverde will be leader for Movistar and will also comfortably beat Aru. He always does better in the vuelta than the Tour and will hoover up the time bonuses.
Yes, Aru is great on short steep climbs, but longer really steep oness seem t be his weakness.SafeBet said:I think Aru will suffer on some of the steeper gradients of the Vuelta climbs. He's quite explosive, but he rarely excels when the percentage goes above 10% for more than a couple kms.
It's between Valverde and Nibbles for me.
I'm also hoping Pozzovivo has a great Vuelta. Realistically he can aim at the podium if some of the riders coming from the Tour fade.Mayomaniac said:Yes, Aru is great on short steep climbs, but longer really steep oness seem t be his weakness.
Hard to say who'll win it, Pozzovivo as an odd year Vuelta winner would be awesome.![]()