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Who will win the 2020 Giro? (Rest day 1 edition)

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Who will win the Giro?

  • Vincenzo Nibali

    Votes: 47 34.8%

  • Wilco Kelderman

    Votes: 29 21.5%

  • Jakob Fuglsang

    Votes: 17 12.6%

  • Domenico Pozzovivo

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Rafal Majka

    Votes: 5 3.7%

  • João Almeida

    Votes: 12 8.9%

  • HERMANN PERNSTEINER

    Votes: 4 3.0%

  • Steven Kruijswijk

    Votes: 9 6.7%

  • Vino

    Votes: 10 7.4%
  • Total voters
    135
  • Poll closed .
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Cance > TheRest said:
'Fuzelgang' is still the funniest mispronounciation I have seen
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I still don't get how's pronounced. "Reading" (rather looking at) your signature I assume you're dane right? Is it "Fullsan" because you tend to eat consonants for breakfast:p, or a more standard pseudo-germanisch "vugelsang" ?
yesterday Gianni Bugno on RAI called him "Fuzlan" and I giggled.
 
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Nibali might sneak a top five.

I voted Fuglsang but probably should have voted Kelderman. He has quite an advantage with the time trials and usually he holds his level throughout a Grand Tour (he has been top 10 the past three years in the Vuelta and been best in the final parts of the races).

I don't think Almeida has any chance whatsoever. If it's still going to be a reasonably hard race, route-wise.
 
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46&twoWheels said:
I still don't get how's pronounced. "Reading" (rather looking at) your signature I assume you're dane right? Is it "Fullsan" because you tend to eat consonants for breakfast:p, or a more standard pseudo-germanisch "vugelsang" ?
yesterday Gianni Bugno on RAI called him "Fuzlan" and I giggled.
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Both G's are silent. Fugl is pronounced exactly like the English "fool" and Sang like the French "sans".
 
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tobydawq said:
Nibali might sneak a top five.

I voted Fuglsang but probably should have voted Kelderman. He has quite an advantage with the time trials and usually he holds his level throughout a Grand Tour (he has been top 10 the past three years in the Vuelta and been best in the final parts of the races).

I don't think Almeida has any chance whatsoever. If it's still going to be a reasonably hard race, route-wise.
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In the bag in the trophy cabinet, no need for voodoo this time.
 
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Red Rick said:
Because he's 29 and I can't think of a single stage in his career where he climbed like a potential GT champion.
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No but he does now (honestly, he has been looking exactly as strong as Fuglsang so far) and as I said, he usually doesn't drop his level during a GT if he stays upright.

I mean, "Kelderman the Giro champion" doesn't really sound right in my ears either, but it's not exactly the most loaded of races.
 
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tobydawq said:
No but he does now (honestly, he has been looking exactly as strong as Fuglsang so far) and as I said, he usually doesn't drop his level during a GT if he stays upright.

I mean, "Kelderman the Giro champion" doesn't really sound right in my ears, either but it's not exactly the most loaded of races.
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IMO Fuglsang has at least shown much better than his GT results in shorter stage races, primarily by winning the Dauphine twice. Kelderman has never won a MTF IIRC? In Tirreno he was also one of the stronger guys on the punchy stages but less so on Sassotetto

Meanwhile the only climb that gives any real indication of climbing form was Etna where they let him go and he got like 10s in the end?
 
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Red Rick said:
IMO Fuglsang has at least shown much better than his GT results in shorter stage races, primarily by winning the Dauphine twice. Kelderman has never won a MTF IIRC? In Tirreno he was also one of the stronger guys on the punchy stages but less so on Sassotetto

Meanwhile the only climb that gives any real indication of climbing form was Etna where they let him go and he got like 10s in the end?
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No he has never won a MTF. He has four wins as a pro, three ITT's and the overall GC of the Tour of Denmark. That's twice as many victories as Kruijswijk, though, who has won MTF win from the Tour de Suisse nine years ago.

I think it was pretty impressive to keep the others at bay on Etna. There was some stop-and-go but generally most go and I think they were riding quite fast but never really got close to him.

My thinking before yesterday was that Fuglsang was the strongest rider in the race but I wasn't able to compare him to Kelderman because of his early attack on Etna. Then yesterday they both seemed quite at ease on the final straight where all the others were suffering.

It's true that he wasn't very good on Sassotetto but maybe he was riding it as a preparation race and hadn't yet reached peak shape.
 
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jnormanroach said:
Astana team is basically non-existent, but the Etna stage and today's stage really make me think that none of the contenders are going to have any help at the end of these high mountain stages, at which point if they are all level on time it's going to come down to who has the best individual legs.
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Nibali will have Ciccone, and I think that's going to be a game breaker.

Hindley and Kelderman seem to work well but I doubt they can match them. The rest will probably be alone with the possible exception of Hamilton/Haig if they can hang on, but that's a big if.

Fuglsang would have had the best team, but no Vlasov or Lopez...
 
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It's really hard to choose between the four favourites. Nibali and Kruijswijk are more experienced and might peak in the third week. However at the moment Fuglsang and Kelderman look stronger. A lot will depend on decisions by the organizers. Agnello and Izoard might very well be cancelled, but could be replaced by Finestre. Stelvio isn't sure either. So my guess for the top 10 is pretty much at random:

  1. Fuglsang
  2. Kelderman
  3. Nibali
  4. Kruijswijk
  5. Majka
  6. Pozzovivo
  7. Konrad
  8. Bilbao
  9. Almeida
  10. Zakarin
 
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Joao Almeida or Wilco Kelderman. Depending on the cancellations and the race going all the way or not. Fuglsang may have a chance too if he uses the hills of week 2 well. Nibali's chances are stages 18 and 20 without cancellations/shortenings.

Voted for Kelderman, but that was before the positive cases for multiple riders.
 
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