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Who will win the 2023 Vuelta a España

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Who will win?


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I think you're looking at the stage results from yesterday, not at the GC situation?

In GC, Remco is the first of the 'favorites' in 9th spot but yes that's still 8 guys ahead of them.
Yeah, and I don't think any of these 8 guys will be ahead after the TT. Maybe if the gap was a few minutes bigger someone like Kuss would be a serious threat, but now I don't really see it. The best he can hope for is to be in about the same time as the favourites after the TT.
 
Per PCS

Winners of La Vuelta Ciclista a España excluding TTs.

YEARWINNERWINNER WITHOUT TT
2022EVENEPOEL RemcoMAS Enric
2020ROGLIČ PrimožCARAPAZ Richard
2015ARU FabioRODRÍGUEZ Joaquim
2010NIBALI VincenzoRODRÍGUEZ Joaquim
2003HERAS RobertoCÁRDENAS Félix Rafael
2002GONZÁLEZ AitorHERAS Roberto
2001CASERO Ángel LuisSEVILLA Óscar
1999ULLRICH JanJIMÉNEZ José María
1998OLANO AbrahamJIMÉNEZ José María
1991MAURI MelchorLEJARRETA Marino
1990GIOVANNETTI MarcoRUÍZ CABESTANY Pello
1989DELGADO PedroPARRA Fabio Enrique
1987HERRERA Luis AlbertoDIETZEN Reimund
1981BATTAGLIN GiovanniBELDA Vicente
1976PESARRODONA JoséLÓPEZ Vicente
1975TAMAMES AugustínPERURENA Domingo
1971BRACKE FerdinandOCAÑA Luis
1970OCAÑA LuisTAMAMES Augustín
1967JANSSEN JanDUCASSE Jean-Pierre
1966GABICA FranciscoHAAST Cees
1964POULIDOR RaymondOTAÑO Luis
1963ANQUETIL JacquesMALIEPAARD Bas
1959SUAREZ AntonioSEGU José
1941BERRENDERO JuliánTRUEBA Fermín
 
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Per PCS

Winners of La Vuelta Ciclista a España excluding TTs.

YEARWINNERWINNER WITHOUT TT
2022EVENEPOEL RemcoMAS Enric
2020ROGLIČ PrimožCARAPAZ Richard
2015ARU FabioRODRÍGUEZ Joaquim
2010NIBALI VincenzoRODRÍGUEZ Joaquim
2003HERAS RobertoCÁRDENAS Félix Rafael
2002GONZÁLEZ AitorHERAS Roberto
2001CASERO Ángel LuisSEVILLA Óscar
1999ULLRICH JanJIMÉNEZ José María
1998OLANO AbrahamJIMÉNEZ José María
1991MAURI MelchorLEJARRETA Marino
1990GIOVANNETTI MarcoRUÍZ CABESTANY Pello
1989DELGADO PedroPARRA Fabio Enrique
1987HERRERA Luis AlbertoDIETZEN Reimund
1981BATTAGLIN GiovanniBELDA Vicente
1976PESARRODONA JoséLÓPEZ Vicente
1975TAMAMES AugustínPERURENA Domingo
1971BRACKE FerdinandOCAÑA Luis
1970OCAÑA LuisTAMAMES Augustín
1967JANSSEN JanDUCASSE Jean-Pierre
1966GABICA FranciscoHAAST Cees
1964POULIDOR RaymondOTAÑO Luis
1963ANQUETIL JacquesMALIEPAARD Bas
1959SUAREZ AntonioSEGU José
1941BERRENDERO JuliánTRUEBA Fermín
Important to note that the stat also includes TTTs. If you only ignore the ITT last year, for example, Evenepoel still wins.
 
The GC situation is very interesting indeed. I mean if it was Roglic instead of Kuss and Ayuso instead of Soler then it would be clearer. JV's and UAE's best GC guys are less proven than their nominal leaders. JV has a lot to think about: are they completely confident in Kuss and will they ride defensively for some time? Or will they attack Remco (likely with Primoz, maybe with Vinge) making a full-gas race and risking Kuss' position for a possible Rogla's gain?
 
The GC situation is very interesting indeed. I mean if it was Roglic instead of Kuss and Ayuso instead of Soler then it would be clearer. JV's and UAE's best GC guys are less proven than their nominal leaders. JV has a lot to think about: are they completely confident in Kuss and will they ride defensively for some time? Or will they attack Remco (likely with Primoz, maybe with Vinge) making a full-gas race and risking Kuss' position for a possible Rogla's gain?

I only hope it doesn't end dramatically for Kuss, i.e. I don't want any drama or heartbreak.

His current 'adventure' sort of reminds me of Voeckler in 2011 & Alaphilippe in the 2019 Tour, i.e. both went far & above what was expected & neither ended well (off the podium).

Right now he's climbing really well & seems mentally dialled in (he was super fast onto Evenepoel's wheel today). But in these types of scenarios where a rider overperforms expectations in GC there often that one stage when everything goes completely to sh*t.
 
I only hope it doesn't end dramatically for Kuss, i.e. I don't want any drama or heartbreak.

His current 'adventure' sort of reminds me of Voeckler in 2011 & Alaphilippe in the 2019 Tour, i.e. both went far & above what was expected & neither ended well (off the podium).

Right now he's climbing really well & seems mentally dialled in (he was super fast onto Evenepoel's wheel today). But in these types of scenarios where a rider overperforms expectations in GC there often that one stage when everything goes completely to sh*t.
I think its safe to say Kuss is no Voeckler or Alaphilippe. Neither of them were genuine climbers. We shouldn't forget Kuss did big damage on Col de la Loze in the 2020 TdF.
 
I think its safe to say Kuss is no Voeckler or Alaphilippe. Neither of them were genuine climbers. We shouldn't forget Kuss did big damage on Col de la Loze in the 2020 TdF.

I still think Kuss is a massive decoy & he's doing the best he can in his situation.

I think Roglič is Jumbo's number one guy & their behavior sort of shows this (Vingegaard is on the brink of falling behind IMO). I also think Evenepoel & Quick-Step know this as well. The GC race will naturally 'unpack itself', i.e. it'll explode & the two best riders in the race will fight it out for the win.

That's Rog & Evenepoel IMO. Kuss has super performances in isolation (Loze & Angliru 2020, or even Monte Bondone in the Giro 2023), but there's always the other stages where he drops, even when he doesn't mean to (like the Loze/Courchevel stage in the last TdF).
 
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I still think Kuss is a massive decoy & he's doing the best he can in his situation.

I think Roglič is Jumbo's number one guy & their behavior sort of shows this (Vingegaard is on the brink of falling behind IMO). I also think Evenepoel & Quick-Step know this as well. The GC race will naturally 'unpack itself', i.e. it'll explode & the two best riders in the race will fight it out for the win.

That's Rog & Evenepoel IMO. Kuss has super performances in isolation (Loze & Angliru 2020, or even Monte Bondone in the Giro 2023), but there's always the other stages where he drops, even when he doesn't mean to (like the Loze/Courchevel stage in the last TdF).
I agree it’s likely between Rog and Remco. Just saying it’s strange Kuss isn’t in the poll when he is clearly a better chance than others listed.
 
This week could really turn the GC battle on its head. Stages 13 and 14 are completely unlike anything we’ve had so far, and should favour Vingegaard - as well as the UAE duo of Ayuso and Almeida - much more than the first week or so, which was prime Roglic territory. Remco is a bit of an unknown quantity on these types of stages and is a wildcard - he could do something crazy or he could struggle.
 
Sepp Kuss should be in the poll? I'm sticking with Roglic beating Remco.

But this is a very interesting Vuelta so far and probably the most hotly contested in a long time. Also keen to see how Ayuso and Almeida fare when we get to the big mountains.
I agree it’s likely between Rog and Remco. Just saying it’s strange Kuss isn’t in the poll when he is clearly a better chance than others listed.
The thread was posted before the Vuelta started so naturally Kuss wasn’t on anyone’s mind to win.