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Yes...these guys. P!ssed off that they get a pass.....Race Radio said:Stapleton, Knaggs, Och, Verburggen, Charmichel, Martinelli, Marti,
hasn't there been talk of the first 2(actually all three), and nothing on Hinault(so far), and Roche's been linked to "rumors/innuendo" about doping, or am I off base here? trying to remember sorry.Red Dragon said:Stephen Roche *
Miguel Indurain *
Bernard Hinault *
Google Dr. Anthony Gallea...mewmewmew13 said:Yes...these guys. P!ssed off that they get a pass.....
I would also like to see Weisel get exposed for the creep that he is as well as Steve Johnson..both for their complicit involvement
Oh yeah Michael Phelps is a good one...
he's a public jerk...
While I'm on a rant Tiger Woods...c'mon he's not naturally built like that !
Stranger than posting in a forum about doping when you want everyone to be clean?martinvickers said:You know what makes me smile.
How some of our clinicians WANT certain athletes to be dopers.
Not just think, or suspect, or be convinced they dope. Want. They have an emotional investment in it.
How very, very strange...
iejeecee said:I'd like to see the Spanish national team exposed, so we become the 2010 world champions
Then again we probably doped too
ThisThe Hitch said:U.Bolt. That would turn the world on its head.
This, I don't get the fact that it has been officially stated that Messi has been on HGH from the age of 11 and that in his case it's seen as some great story of Barcelona scouting and medically supporting a big talent.Netserk said:In that case:
In that case Cristiano Ronaldo.coinneach said:I presume the thread is looking for nominations in the cycling world?
Personally, I'd love it if someone BIG from another sport got done: football, tennis or golf would do. Maybe Tiger Woods, or has he had enough of a fall already? Both him & Phil Michelson have changed body shapes quite a lot; but Phil seem a nice bloke and Nike sponsor Tiger so I'd be pleased if he was outed.
Sceptic. Take a step back and think, actually think, about what you just wrote.the sceptic said:Stranger than posting in a forum about doping when you want everyone to be clean?
Would love to see justice served but, I'm not sure it would shock the general public that much.The Hitch said:U.Bolt. That would turn the world on its head.
Now that is a more sensible question, LS. and, in a break from my usual policy of not discussing hunches, let me say that on Jeter, I agree 100%.Libertine Seguros said:Thinking less about people we "want" to be doping and more people we can have pretty strong concerns about, Carmelita Jeter. Otherwise, Cristiano Ronaldo.
If someone should be taking a step back - it would be the poster who just called "the sceptic", "sniper".martinvickers said:Sniper. Take a step back and think, actually think, about what you just wrote.
That somehow it is BAD or STRANGE to WANT athletes to be clean.
Think about what that says about you.
Who in their right mind DOESN'T want everyone to be clean? Who in their right mind WANTS doping?
WE all know 100% clean is a pipe dream, of course, but surely anyone who actually, you know, gives a sh!t about sport would WANT it to be clean?
But as i said, that's the odd thing; there are some clinicians who it seems are emotionally invested in the destruction of sportspeople. They WANT there to be dopers. The buzz of the sneer seems to be more important to them than, you know, actual sport.
And then they question people who don't feel like that?
AS I said, very, very strange...
I never mentioned Sky in this thread. I think that's called transference, Wiggy. You're still smarting, aren't you.Dear Wiggo said:If someone should be taking a step back - it would be the poster who just called "the sceptic", "sniper".
But I understand what the sceptic means. He is implying you are defending and desperate to prove Sky are clean. You want them to be clean, depsite the fact so much points to them being doity, doity, wascawwy wabbits.
100% - Baseball appears to me the nearest to cycling in it's almost sports wide culture of doping - I'm tired of people expecting every doper to be a sociopath, just 'cos Lance was.Merckx index said:Great thread, and some great names in cycling. I can’t add to them, but certainly second ones like Voeckler, Cancellara, Indurain…
In baseball, Derek Jeter and Albert Pujols. If either of these players were outed, fans would finally have to stop denying and realize that even the nicest, cleanest guys do in fact dope.
That's not actually true. Gay, at the least, is almost certainly clean. Pretty confident on Bolt, too, having seen analysis of him - he's simply a prodigy.Someone already mentioned Usain Bolt. Definitely, but also all his Jamaican relay mates. But really, anyone with half a brain knows every elite sprinter in the world is using PEDs.
Agree 100%. if you dope, i hope you pay. Big. short and sweet.In swimming, I’m a Phelps fan, so if it will make you feel better, Martin Vickers, I really hope he raced clean. But if the evidence is there, I hope it comes out, though at this point it would have to be the testimony of someone close to him.
I happen to know a couple of swim coaches. No-one, no-one believes in Torres. Which is actually very sad. But sadly, all too understandable. WE had de Bruin, after allSame with Torres.
Ledecky?Lochte is still active, though. Many of these 15 year old female wunderkinds, and not just Asian ones, either.
In the NFL they check you for drugs..and if you don't have them, they kick you off the squad. Same lineage as both rugby codes, and same problems but in technicolor.In (American) football, every quarterback in the NFL, because most of the suspicion focuses on the 300 lb linemen, not on the guys for whom an extra 5 mph zip on a pass can make the difference between stardom and the bench. Particularly Aaron Rodgers, who defended baseball player Ryan Braun when the latter testified positive and had it overturned on a technicality.