Why Bother with Punishing the Cheaters in Cycling: The Cushing Case

[Escarabajo]

Do you guys believe this?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/05/12/cushing.ap/index.html

There are no morals in America anymore. The media does not even care. So why are we being too tough with our cyclists?

I am a little pi$$ed off at the outcome of this affair.

Please comment and rant all you want.

 

[Kender]

it's their constitutional right to bear arms and dope

american professional sportsmen have very little to lose by using PEDs. the punishments are minute, the benefits are huge.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Yeah their writers are schizophrenic. They even still mention to vote Mark McGwire to the HoF. No wonder that most of the Lance-Trolls come from your country.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Even tough it´s hurting, but i prefer a press who over reacts (like in the Ullrich case) instead of turning a blind eye on issues like the ones i mentioned.

 

[patricknd]

not only should doping be allowed, it should be required.

discuss

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

HCG is pregnant woman's urine. Unbelievable, huh?

It has a quality that keeps the testicles from shrivelling too much whilst on a testosterone cycle.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

not only should doping be allowed, it should be required.

discuss

Ouote Rolf Järmann: "If there´s no doping tests, you´ll have deaths". Enough said.

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

Ouote Rolf Järmann: "If there´s no doping tests, you´ll have deaths". Enough said.

You can't really die from steroids to be honest, but it could f**k with your long term hormone levels and your fertility.

That's what HCG is supposed to help prevent.

 

[biokemguy]

at least cyclists aren't criminals

Doping is a small problem with the image of many American sports compared to the criminal behavior of many of the players. Rothlesberger, and LT are just the two latest examples

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

You never know if some hooker want to milk out money of athlets (see Roethlisberger, Bryant), but the LT-Case is indeed serious...

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

You can't really die from steroids to be honest, but it could f**k with your long term hormone levels and your fertility.

That's what HCG is supposed to help prevent.

You got me wrong. It was about if doping should be allowed, or worse required

 

[patricknd]

You got me wrong. It was about if doping should be allowed, or worse required

psst. i was joking about requiring doping.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

just watching a movie too, so i didn´t see your sarcasm

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

not only should doping be allowed, it should be required.

discuss

You're an idiot.
Discuss.

 

[patricknd]

just watching a movie too, so i didn´t see your sarcasm

cool, it seemed appropriate considering the topic.

 

[biokemguy]

You never know if some hooker want to milk out money of athlets (see Roethlisberger, Bryant), but the LT-Case is indeed serious...

I don't think that's the case with Roethlisberger.

and then there's players bringing guns to night clubs and shooting themselves, or into the locker room, or beating up fans.

Sadly the examples of criminal behavior by American athletes are many.

I like football, but can no longer support a sport that has so much criminal behavior among it's players.

guess I'll have to start watching lacrosse

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

I don't think that's the case with Roethlisberger.

and then there's players bringing guns to night clubs and shooting themselves, or into the locker room, or beating up fans.

Sadly the examples of criminal behavior by American athletes are many.

I like football, but can no longer support a sport that has so much criminal behavior among it's players.

guess I'll have to start watching lacrosse

It´s not as bad as it seems, only the bad guys get the news. Anyway if you try something clean: how ´bout deep sea fishing by woman. Isn´t fishing popular in the US ?

 

[Oldman]

Do you guys believe this?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/05/12/cushing.ap/index.html

There are no morals in America anymore. The media does not even care. So why are we being too tough with our cyclists?

I am a little pi$$ed off at the outcome of this affair.

Please comment and rant all you want.

Unbelievable justification for voting the same twice:"If I had known in January when we initially voted that Brian Cushing had tested positive for a banned substance, I might not have voted for him," said Charean Williams of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram and president of the Pro Football Writers of America. "However, Cushing won the award in January, and I don't feel like we should revise history. I am concerned about the precedent."

 

[biokemguy]

It´s not as bad as it seems, only the bad guys get the news. Anyway if you try something clean: how ´bout deep sea fishing by woman. Isn´t fishing popular in the US ?

Almost as popular as cycling...

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

So may fishing has doping issues as well. How about that?

http://elearn.hawk-hhg.de/projekte/15/pages/sportarten/extrembFCgeln.php

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

or that one, it´s all downhill so no need to cheat;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOyQBSMeIhM&feature=fvst

 

[Colm.Murphy]

The outrage in this thread is hilarious.

Humans are greedy, selfish, insecure, animals that can suspend the strongest of morals, ethic, common sense, and preservation to achieve and/or acquire. The human animal has most commonly an insuppressible nature of one's self at its base level.

Athletes are human, it is their nature.

That any of you are the least bit surprised, outraged, hurt, wounded, or struggling with this is quite another level of comedy.

In other words, grow up, get over it and find something useful to care about, the lot of you. Reserve your tortured, judgmental, misguided ego-stylings for something that deserves it.

Appreciate the racing cyclist or American footballer for what they are: Entertainment. Much the same as the musicians that fill your iPod's or the CD's in your autos. Not surprisingly, ALL of them were on drugs too! "Cast out your dirty, devil music!" they used to say.

Hey, hey, my, my
Rock-n-roll will never die...

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Appreciate the racing cyclist or American footballer for what they are: Entertainment.

All right, but not the above listed. For all of us who did or still do sports, it´s not entertainment but competition. Even the pros started it as competition. Only the greedy old fat men with big glasses who as kids sat in the 1st row of math classes take it as business/entertainment and spoiled it. I assume even Epo-Lance started sports because of fun and competition.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

All right, but not the above listed. For all of us who did or still do sports, it´s not entertainment but competition. Even the pros started it as competition. Only the greedy old fat men with big glasses who as kids sat in the 1st row of math classes take it as business/entertainment and spoiled it. I assume even Epo-Lance started sports because of fun and competition.

Ok, seriously?

If you cannot comprehend how fuktarded your position is, you are beyond help.

If you want to focus on "competition" go coach some children and teach them some lessons about fair-play, sportsmanship and the value of winning and losing. Teach some kids how to deal with loss, how to use teamwork to attain a goal, how to apply themselves for something more than their own gain.

Then, come back and tell us all how great the experience was. I will respect you for your effort. What I won't do is engage with you about how Pro Sports is SO much different than commercialized (read: capitalism, read: competitive) music, theater, films, art or anything else driven by the $.

BTW, what is your favorite band? Who is on YOUR iPod?

 

[Oldman]

The outrage in this thread is hilarious.

Humans are greedy, selfish, insecure, animals that can suspend the strongest of morals, ethic, common sense, and preservation to achieve and/or acquire. The human animal has most commonly an insuppressible nature of one's self at its base level.

Athletes are human, it is their nature.

That any of you are the least bit surprised, outraged, hurt, wounded, or struggling with this is quite another level of comedy.

In other words, grow up, get over it and find something useful to care about, the lot of you. Reserve your tortured, judgmental, misguided ego-stylings for something that deserves it.

Appreciate the racing cyclist or American footballer for what they are: Entertainment. Much the same as the musicians that fill your iPod's or the CD's in your autos. Not surprisingly, ALL of them were on drugs too! "Cast out your dirty, devil music!" they used to say.

Hey, hey, my, my
Rock-n-roll will never die...

The journalists who make their living "outing" the dopers for a quick story are the ones giving the free pass. That's amazing...even for a jaded cyclist.