Wiggins, a man in love!

[taiwan]

Ah sorry, I wasn't quite sure whether the all ****ing ****ers in the Sky thread were the same as the ****ing ****ers who were ****-fighting in the clinic. As long as eveyone's read the article now then I'm happy. ****s.

[chucks keyboard off desk, storms out of room]

 

[Maxiton]

What a vast exercise in American self-loathing this thread is proving to be.

Some good stuff here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/jul/13/bradley-wiggins-dope-drugs?newsfeed=true

I see another rider saying, Just believe what I tell you and not your lyin' eyes. Which pretty much typifies the historical orthodoxy of European cycling. What do you see?

 

[Benotti69]

You'd think there would be a bit more respect for someone born in Belgium.

Just like there is for Merckx that doping Belgian cheat

 

[Nocontest]

That's the point that I was trying to make - that his comments appear clear, but actually they're not. The article linked explains why that's important.

I don't understand the point you're making in your last sentence. Perhaps you can explain.

The point I was making was just that his comments were clear enough that I don't feel that he would ever be able to say; "well what I was really meaning when I said that..."

As to the link, like I said, his comments were clear enough for me, I don't need point by point detailed examination of possible inferences. He has put it out there that he does not dope and wouldn't dope so now he stands or falls by that.

 

[Nocontest]

Yeah. The prudent thing to do would be to dope and then not try to win. Rookie error by Sky there.

You didn't answer my question. Essentially you are suggesting that they are too stupid to realise that juicing up and smashing everyone wouldn't put them under scrutiny. They could achieve exactly what they have done so far in a much more circumspect way if they indeed have something to hide was the point I was attempting to make.

 

[Nocontest]

nocontest was saying that if ever Wiggins were to test positive, he'd have no other option but to continue lying like a sack of ****. He'd do it the LA-way, all the way through to the bitter end.

Actually my point was that he would not have that option should he test positive. Armstrong could continue his story because he has never been officially sanctioned (yet!).

 

[oldcrank]

A very nice turn of speed at the end of today's stage
by Wiggo. Not as fast as he used to be, but not bad.

 

[Bala Verde]

[printed 2012] Do that and he will be at the front in the mountains, which is crucial. When Wiggins won the 2011 National 10-mile title he said his average power output was 476 watts, which because 10s are ridden at slightly above threshold meant his threshold then would have been around 460 watts. This tallies with what Sutton told me in 2009 when he put Wiggins's threshold at between 440 and 460. Wiggins weighed around 70 kilograms going into the 2011 Tour, which gave a watts per kilo of 6.57

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/533967/bradley-wiggins-s-tour-de-france-training.html

[2011 August 29, Stage 10: Salamanca ITT 47km]

Chris Froome rode the time trial of his life as he rode his way into the overall lead in the Vuelta. The Kenyan-born climber finished second behind Tony Martin (HTC-Highroad) in the 47km time trial to take the general classification lead by 12 seconds ahead of Jakob Fuglsang (Leopard Trek).

Team Sky’s head physiologist Tim Kerrison is delighted with Froome’s performance. “Chris is doing a great job in the race looking after Brad and staying in contention himself,” he says.

Froome averaged 5.8w/kg at 406W for nearly an hour! He paced the event to perfection as the first half had a total altitude gain of 219m and he averaged 414w, versus the second half where the course had a total elevation gain of only 86m and he averaged 398w. There were certainly riders who started the time trial too hard and suffered in the final 20km where Froome ended up gaining ground.

1 Tony Martin (Ger) HTC-Highroad.0:55:54
2 Christopher Froome (GBr) Team Sky.0:00:59
3 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Team Sky.0:01:22

[Wiggins v Froome = +23s]

TRAININGPEAKS ANALYSIS: FROOME DOES THE RIDE OF HIS LIFE TO TAKE VUELTA LEAD

[printed 2009] I was climbing fairly well in the 2007 Tour, but I've lost seven kilos since then: 78 to 71. It's taken nine months, in little increments, without any sort of crash diet. I've had regular check‑ups with Nigel Mitchell, the nutritionist at the Olympic team, to make sure I'm only burning fat, not any muscle. The last one was the day before the national championship, 28 June. He said I didn't have an ounce of fat left on my body. I was at 4% body fat, which is just at the point where you begin to burn muscle because there's nothing else left. It's not a very healthy level to be at, but it's only for these four weeks. It's been perfectly timed. As soon as the Tour is finished, my wife Cath is going to tie me up and force‑feed me cake.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/jul/19/bradley-wiggins-tour-de-france

[printed 2009] Again, what are the limits to performance, and how much should these increase over time? A rider widely regarded as being pas de dopage, Bradley Wiggins, had an average output of 425 watts (according to Cyclismag.com again), which was equivalent to Armstrong in 2005 and probably would have won him the Tour against Contador in 2007

http://le-grimpeur.net/blog/archives/74

[September 2009] Wiggins rode the Olympic Games last summer [2008] weighing 82kg. In the past he has ridden the Tour and Giro d'Italia at about 77kg or 78kg. The aim was to start the Tour this year at 72kg. It stands to reason that if you can produce 450 watts for 10 minutes weighing 72kg instead of 78, the gain in performance is going to be considerable. Enough, Parker says, to put him in the front group on the climbs.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/436524/bradley-wiggins-the-transformation.html

[printed 2006] That means you can work out the power you need for a certain time to maintain a certain speed over a certain distance. To win the Olympic gold medal in Athens, for example, I needed to be riding at 570 or 580 watts for four minutes. I'm about 10 or 15 watts better than I was in Athens, which means that if I rode the Olympic pursuit against myself today I would be two seconds faster. That's simply because of the way you progress physically as you get older.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2006/jun/04/cycling.news?INTCMP=SRCH

These numbers have been floating around online, here and there. Can you compare and analyse them over the years, and do they show consistency?

 

[hrotha]

This immediately stood out for me, in view of a full season of riding at the top of his capabilities:

I was at 4% body fat, which is just at the point where you begin to burn muscle because there's nothing else left. It's not a very healthy level to be at, but it's only for these four weeks. It's been perfectly timed. As soon as the Tour is finished, my wife Cath is going to tie me up and force‑feed me cake.

To be fair, he hasn't had to face any real mountains until the Dauphiné, so he could have been carrying around some extra fat.

 

[Digger]

This immediately stood out for me, in view of a full season of riding at the top of his capabilities:

To be fair, he hasn't had to face any real mountains until the Dauphiné, so he could have been carrying around some extra fat.

That's from 2009...according to the Sky website he last lost even more weight since then. Not apapently not muscle or power.

 

[roundabout]

There's one more thing. Didn't Kerrison say that Wiggins has issues it higher altitude? Does he have low hemaglobin or something? I am not an expert though.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

UCI ‏@UCI_cycling
A small scoop: Bradley Wiggins race program is revealed (from Denmark to Bahamas!) Watch our last video: ucichannel on Youtube

 

[Bala Verde]

I just came across this (old) thread, but it appears the saris files are not available anymore:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=3697

chase196126 Posted on: 09-25-09, 01:28
Brad Wiggins Power data
Here are a few links from Saris and Garmin's websites. Power data from le Tour and the Giro

http://www.saris.com/athletes/PermaL...90a892932.aspx

http://www.saris.com/athletes/PermaL...a1b3da4fc.aspx

http://www.slipstreamsports.com/2009...talia-stage-12

Just some interesting links I found.

Only this one worked:

http://www.slipstreamsports.com/200...ns-garmin-edge-705-data-giro-ditalia-stage-12

Bradley Wiggins' Garmin Edge 705 data – Giro d'Italia, stage 12

Here is the data download from Bradley Wiggins’ Garmin Edge 705 during stage 12 of the Giro d’Italia.

Location: Riomaggiore, Italy

Time: 01:36:33
Distance: 38.02 mi
Avg Speed: 23.6 mph
Avg Power: 377 W
Max Power: 900 W
Total Calories: 2,813 C Avg Bike Cadence: 90 rpm
Max Bike Cadence: 127 rpm
Min Elevation: 1 ft
Max Elevation: 1,987 ft
Elevation Gain: 4,398 ft
Elevation Loss: 3,805 ft ft

http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/jonathan-vaughters-post-tour-interview

JV: I knew that the power to weight ratio was right at world class. He was doing 480 watts at 72 kilos for a 20-25 minute time, so I knew that Brad would be one of the most powerful riders in the Tour; but the question was whether he could sustain it for three weeks

http://coachrobmuller.blogspot.com/2009/07/bradley-wiggins-3rd-place-time-trial.html

Check this out for a 20 min Time Trial (FTP) at the Tour de France. Bradley used his Power Meter to help him pace his effort for a third place finish averaging 446 watts for 20 minutes.

 

[BroDeal]

If Wiggins is a doper it is hard to reconcile with this: Probably the most honest statement I have ever heard from a professional cyclist. Pretty hard to backtrack from this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/jul/13/bradley-wiggins-dope-drugs

 

[Cancellator]

I wonder if Wiggo is going to smash the Olympic ITT as well. Although I'm a huge Cancellara fan, I think there's a good chance he will lose to Wiggins, because that guy just seems immune to fatigue - peak all year long, so why not win the Olympics as well!

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Jesus H Christ! When are people going to drop the utterly falsified "peaking all year" nonsense? I suggest you learn a thing or two about the relationship between speed and power in a TT and then compare his TT's at P-N, Algarve and Romandie to the ones at the TdF.

 

[taiwan]

JV: I knew that the power to weight ratio was right at world class. He was doing 480 watts at 72 kilos for a 20-25 minute time, so I knew that Brad would be one of the most powerful riders in the Tour; but the question was whether he could sustain it for three weeks

Thats a lot.

 

[BigBoat]

I wonder if Wiggo is going to smash the Olympic ITT as well. Although I'm a huge Cancellara fan, I think there's a good chance he will lose to Wiggins, because that guy just seems immune to fatigue - peak all year long, so why not win the Olympics as well!

Yeah so true....if they had a individual pursuit I wonder if he'd win that too....LOL

 

[Cycle Chic]

Barney wiggles

“The cautionary tale of Barney Wiggles and the Silk Cut Man”

'Early the other afternoon a jovial rotund customer strolled into my shop in Clonmel in search of a puncture repair kit for his son’s bike. As we chatted briefly about the weather and whatever else, he remarked: “Did ya see yer man Barney Wiggles in the paper smoking a *** there today? Tis fair gas to see the fittest man in the world sittin’ there smokin’ away. I’m a silk cut man meself so I showed it to the misses an told her not to be getting’ on to me over my twenty a day or I’ll throw on the spandex an tear off around the neighbourhood on the young fella’s bike.”

And off he went on his merry way.

Barney Wiggles, or Bradley Wiggins as he is more commonly known, was photographed last week sitting outside a restaurant in Mallorca apparently smoking a cigarette. The pictures were published in the Daily Mail and The Sun newspapers, making it global news within hours online.

Many people admire Wiggins’ down to earth, shoot from the hip style. Many also feel that he should be entitled to his privacy and should be entitled to do whatever he likes on his own time. Many see no harm in him smoking a cigarette. Many may not always be right.

Wiggins is paid millions to be a professional cyclist. Like it or not, success in the sporting arena is accompanied by a degree of responsibility. He is held up as a role model for millions. He is the current Tour de France title holder and Olympic Time Trial Champion. He is odds on to be the BBC Sports Personality of the Year. Like it or not, what he does in his spare time matters.

Over the years we have had parents come into the shop willing to spend more than they could afford on high-end road bikes for their teenage sons. More than once I have had a father tell me that if he can keep the young fella cycling for a few more years it will keep him away from the drink and smoking and whatever else until he reaches an age when he will hopefully have enough sense not to go near them of his own mind.

I can remember as a teenager being able to use ‘I’m a cyclist’ as a valid reason to not fall in with the smoking or drinking crowd without feeling weak or chicken ****. Being a cyclist actually garnered a degree of respect from the ‘cool’ crowd. There was nothing soft about cycling with TV images of Sean Kelly in Paris Roubaix being the reference point. And Sean Kelly didn’t ever smoke or even drink during the racing season so I wasn’t going to smoke or drink either. He was a role model parents were happy for their kids to follow.
Is Bradley Wiggins a role model for kids today?

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/the-cautionary-tale-of-barney-wiggles-and-the-silk-cut-man/

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

“The cautionary tale of Barney Wiggles and the Silk Cut Man”
...
Is Bradley Wiggins a role model for kids today?

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/the-cautionary-tale-of-barney-wiggles-and-the-silk-cut-man/

It is good internet etiquette to show only part of an article and then link to the rest of it rather than paste it in its entirety.

 

[Cycle Chic]

It is good internet etiquette to show only part of an article and then link to the rest of it rather than paste it in its entirety.

I put myself in others shoes and most cant be bothered clicking on links - which I picked up a virus from CN by the by - its a short article anyway.

 

[Houndbike]

unfortunate choice of partner I think for someone who is clean.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-and-keisse-to-race-ghent-sixday-together

I don't understand why instead of saying that he'd love to ride it with him he didnt just call him a lazy f****ng wa***r?

 

[the big ring]

http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/jonathan-vaughters-post-tour-interview

He was doing 480 watts at 72 kilos for a 20-25 minute time, so I knew that Brad would be one of the most powerful riders in the Tour; but the question was whether he could sustain it for three weeks

Thats a lot.

It's a nice bit of spin.

Wiggin's CdA (not including traffic, ie. wind tunnel CdA) was around 0.224 at the British National 10 Mile championships in 2011. 476w average there for ~19min

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/526445/wiggins-and-shaw-take-national-10-titles.html

1. Bradley Wiggins (Team Sky) 19-14

500 tests, anyone?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/jonathan-vaughters-post-tour-interview



It's a nice bit of spin.



http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/526445/wiggins-and-shaw-take-national-10-titles.html



500 tests, anyone?

Probably being a bit slow here but what are you implying?

 

[Stingray34]

Wiggins is completely different to Lance. Wiggins has stated he didn't enjoy his dominant spell in yellow, too much pressure, media focus and doping talk. Lance loved this stuff - he was happy to be the focus and loved dominating any which way he could. In fact, he is only ever happy when he's cheating, winning and stirring others up.

Wiggins is a prime candidate to crack and tell all. Brad is basically a decent guy who's seduced by a desire for success and tough talk for now. It's not going to last. Whether or not he cracks before or after he develops abusive behaviours is yet to be seen.

Just go play in a cover band, Muttonchops, and reconnect with something good and true.