Wiggins, a man in love!

[thehog]

I'm looking forward to Lance's revenge on Wiggins this Thursday night.

I bet Lance has a list. Pay back all those who said bad things about him in the last 6 weeks.

 

[ebandit]

your kidding right?

I'm looking forward to Lance's revenge on Wiggins this Thursday night.

I bet Lance has a list. Pay back all those who said bad things about him in the last 6 weeks.

hoggie myself and other posters have stated the obvious 'why would

lance mention brad?'

+ lance will not be taking revenge on anyone....his agenda will be to look

as good as possible

but if your correct ....................i will be eating humble pie......my signature

will become 'hoggie is the gr**test cn forum poster..........ever!'

 

[Mellow Velo]

I'm looking forward to Lance's revenge on Wiggins this Thursday night.

I bet Lance has a list. Pay back all those who said bad things about him in the last 6 weeks.

There is as much chance of you being on Lance's phantom Oprah "hit" list as Brad.

 

[Jeremiah]

I'm looking forward to Lance's revenge on Wiggins this Thursday night.

I bet Lance has a list. Pay back all those who said bad things about him in the last 6 weeks.

Dropping the bomb that the sport is STILL dirty would be right in his wheelhouse.

hoggie myself and other posters have stated the obvious 'why would

lance mention brad?'

To show that sports are dirty and water down his own fraud.

+ lance will not be taking revenge on anyone....his agenda will be to look

as good as possible

"Lance" will be abandoning his predominant M.O.?

There is as much chance of you being on Lance's phantom Oprah "hit" list as Brad.

I wouldn't be surprised if he mentioned his internet detractors as a group. The Hog is a well established part of that group from what I see.

 

[thehog]

I wouldn't be surprised if he mentioned his internet detractors as a group. The Hog is a well established part of that group from what I see.

If Lance mentions the Clinic I will drink an entire bottle of Jack. Straight.

 

[Jeremiah]

If Lance mentions the Clinic I will drink an entire bottle of Jack. Straight.

He's already mentioned the group as embodied by a poster known as "BigChainringSteve" or some other stupid moniker in print.

In an interview, I believe it was the same one where he said he was riding a 21lb climbing bike in '99, and that athletes "evolve," he's mentioned his internet critics on forums.

I'll try to link it...

 

[Jeremiah]

Here it is...

He's already mentioned the group as embodied by a poster known as "BigChainringSteve" or some other stupid moniker in print.

In an interview, I believe it was the same one where he said he was riding a 21lb climbing bike in '99, and that athletes "evolve," he's mentioned his internet critics on forums.

I'll try to link it...

edit to previous post, LA said "humans evolve."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/nov/18/lancearmstrong-cycling-tourdefrance-donaldmcrae


But I will not read a blog by a nameless person or from someone called 'Big Chain Ring John 52'. That doesn't count.

Ha! Another lie! Of course he reads this $hit!

No1 the human body evolves, training evolves, we improve over time. Duh! Shocker. Two. The suits. The Technology - it's a huge advantage. No3 - the pool. That pool was clearly faster than my neighbourhood swimming pool. Phelps was clearly motivated and all of that stuff makes up for superhuman performances but no one says anything about that. If you go up L'Alpe d'Huez faster than anyone else then it's a case of clearly you've cheated. Another example - 1999 my climbing bike weighed 21 pounds. 2005 - 14 pounds.

 

[The Hitch]

That he did, but I think a lot is being read into that comment that wasn't being said. Not that I have much more insight to the tortured thought processes of Sir Bradley than anyone else. Who really knows why he says what he says

Your as bad as the hog. You cal the other poster out as making up what wiggins said, then when it is proved that he said it come out with this hilarious explanation that people should not be held accountable for what they say of their own free will (or that wiggins anyway should be granted this privilege)

On that thought why do politicians for example say they won't raise taxes, then do. Must be some tortured mind bull**** rather than that they meant what they said. Right?

 

[JimmyFingers]

Oh, ok! Read the second sentence again. It makes sense except to the Sky fan club.

Edit,just for you, on the second sentence.

Scandals result in distrust. Wigans should understand that Sky's, USPS-like, dominance might result in some suspicions. You don't agree?

Are we robots? Do we react the same to every stimuli? Can we quantify that somehow? Yours is speculation on how Wiggins' should have reacted, and because he didn't react the way you wanted to he is damned.

Personally I can't creep into other people's head and know exactly how they should and shouldn't react in certain situations, and then draw conclusions from that 'scientific', quantitative data and present my conclusions as facts. But hey, that's just me.

What you say pro-riders should know, and how they should react means precisely nothing. More speculations based on bias and subjective analysis.

 

[blackcat]

No1 the human body evolves, training evolves, we improve over time. Duh! Shocker. Two. The suits. The Technology - it's a huge advantage. No3 - the pool. That pool was clearly faster than my neighbourhood swimming pool. Phelps was clearly motivated and all of that stuff makes up for superhuman performances but no one says anything about that. If you go up L'Alpe d'Huez faster than anyone else then it's a case of clearly you've cheated. Another example - 1999 my climbing bike weighed 21 pounds. 2005 - 14 pounds.

I think I have heard the same talking points from Cincinnati John with the Sisyphus boulder

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Dropping the bike from 21 lbs to 14 lbs makes 3.5% difference (discounting clothing) to the total rider + bike package.

 

[blackcat]

Dropping the bike from 21 lbs to 14 lbs makes 3.5% difference (discounting clothing) to the total rider + bike package.

and we love Lim's thermal regulation theory frozen bidons

I am just waiting for them to posit the teapot on the other side of the moon

 

[Jeremiah]

Are we robots? Do we react the same to every stimuli? Can we quantify that somehow? Yours is speculation on how Wiggins' should have reacted, and because he didn't react the way you wanted to he is damned.

Personally I can't creep into other people's head and know exactly how they should and shouldn't react in certain situations, and then draw conclusions from that 'scientific', quantitative data and present my conclusions as facts. But hey, that's just me.

What you say pro-riders should know, and how they should react means precisely nothing. More speculations based on bias and subjective analysis.

I can rip and dissect this nonsense, but there is no point with you.

I suppose that because many fans and journalists have questioned Sky's performance after the nonsense of the USPS years they are w@nkers and ****$! Got it!

 

[thehog]

According to Wiggins, Lance rode in the 90’s! More lies from the Brit.

British cycling star Bradley Wiggins said Lance Armstrong’s anticipated admission of doping in a two-episode interview with talk-show host Oprah Winfrey would be both a “great” and “sad” day for the sport.

Wiggins, winner of last year’s Tour de France and Olympic time trial, added that the extent of doping in the 1990s meant it had now become cycling’s “lost” decade as a consequence of so many results being corrupted by drugs cheats.

“There’s a lot of angry people about,” Wiggins told Sky News in an interview conducted at his Team Sky training camp in Madeira. “They need that closure in their life because they’ve been battling for so long for this.

“It will be a great day for a lot of people and quite a sad day for the sport in some ways. But I think it has been a sad couple of months. The ’90s are pretty much a write-off now.”

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013...ould-write-off-nineties-as-lost-decade_271534

 

[Benotti69]

According to Wiggins, Lance rode in the 90’s! More lies from the Brit.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013...ould-write-off-nineties-as-lost-decade_271534

Wiggins obviously forgets his anti doping rant during the TdF 2006 about the heroes in the autobus.

He is trying so hard to distance the doping from his win that he just making himself look more questionable everytime he opens his mouth.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

...come out with this hilarious explanation that people should not be held accountable for what they say of their own free will (or that wiggins anyway should be granted this privilege).

As far as I know, so long as one avoid defamation and various forms of incitement, one is allowed to say what one likes in the UK.

Accountability for what you say only comes into it when you're a politician or subject to contractual obligations.

So long as you avoid defamation, incitement or gross professional misconduct (ie serious breach of contract) you can say what you like and people can make of it what they will.

Politicians only need to be wary to avoid the other side making an issue of it. There was a case not so long since where a Judge ruled than manifesto commitments couldn't be enforced, as they should be interpreted simply as aspirations, rather than commitments, so even a big fat lie by a politician can only be punished at the ballot box. There are penalties for "misleading the House", but these are pretty trivial.

Tony Blair was clearly a blatant liar, but still lead his party to electoral success in 2001 and 2005. Being truthful is merely one aspect of being a successful politician.

If Sir Bradley even stands for political office then his past outpourings will be of relevance. As a professional bike rider, unless his employers ask him to speak/write in a certain way, the only judgement that counts to him is the clock and the dope test results.

Laws may be different elsewhere. If he broke the law on the P-N podium then he should have the book thrown at him, subject to due process.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Dropping the bike from 21 lbs to 14 lbs makes 3.5% difference (discounting clothing) to the total rider + bike package.

21 lbs is around to kilos? Are we really gonna believe the wonderboy didn't know bikeweight was a marginal gain?

ON THE MEDIA SUSPICION


Media reaction is going to be heavily laced with doubt - in contrast to someone like Bradley Wiggins who seems very excited about your return to the Tour.

Brad did get a lot of love back from Lance. Tummyrubbuddies.

 

[the sceptic]

Wiggins is digging himself into a deeper hole with every dumb statement. Is he really trying to imply that Lance raced in the 90s and that from 2000 and onwards everyone was clean? what a tool.

 

[skippy]

In a " slow news day " , ALL Major News Networks are reporting the Oprah /Lance Interview and " thehog " , knowing better says Briggo claiming that Lance rode in the 90s , is not correct ? Joking , were you ? The world Champ title wasn't stripped , YET ?

AS Wiggo was in training , he claimed that , " He was unaware of the fact that Lance had been interviewed , or what had been revealed at that time ? Nobody talks to him ?

In other news , a cleaner crashed a train in Sweden and there was a huge traffic pile up elsewhere in Sweden !

Mellow Johnnys was the scene of a CNN Sports Report , as Pedro Pinto , having interviewed Lance in 2001 , claimed that Lance was maligned by a " Well Known French Rider called LeMond "!

Oprah increased the SAles of books by David Walsh , Paul Kimmage & Tyler Hamilton , when she claimed that she read them as a way of preparing the 112 Questions that she had planned to pose to Lance ! She did not mention the blog Letters i sent her by way of a tweet , bummer !http://www.tourdafarce.blogspot.com

Claimed that she and her staff were " Mesmorised & Rivetted " and prepared for the interview like " It was a College Exam "!

With the interview now being 2 Episodes , perhaps more if she reads the press reviews , it is now likely i will be able to sleep through ALL , since Most of the " Meaty , Substantial Portions " of the interview will have been leaked !

 

[hrotha]

Wiggins is digging himself into a deeper hole with every dumb statement. Is he really trying to imply that Lance raced in the 90s and that from 2000 and onwards everyone was clean? what a tool.

No, he's trying to distance himself from Armstrong as much as possible. Like when he said he never really raced against him (hello, 2009 Tour).

You see, when you've gone around saying you love Armstrong, that you take advice from him and that your team performs as well as his, you may think you need some sort of damage control. If you've spent the greater part of the off-season in a drinking binge, you may think *this* is the way to go about it.

 

[will10]

No, he's trying to distance himself from Armstrong as much as possible. Like when he said he never really raced against him (hello, 2009 Tour).

You'd have thought going tête-à-tête with a 7x Tour winner would be somewhat memorable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-H2ymR-rjuA#t=830s

 

[ebandit]

of course

No, he's trying to distance himself from Armstrong as much as possible. Like when he said he never really raced against him (hello, 2009 Tour).

You see, when you've gone around saying you love Armstrong, that you take advice from him and that your team performs as well as his, you may think you need some sort of damage control. If you've spent the greater part of the off-season in a drinking binge, you may think *this* is the way to go about it.

did brad not say 'i never raced WITH lance?'

really? what sort of a drinking binge was brad on..................what non cyclists would describe.........'a quiet drink'

other than the media sharks the whole world is turning against lance...
.............hardly surprising that brad is too

 

[Benotti69]

The 'Off the Ball' show thought Wiggin's comments were unreal. They said that Cooke's comments were bang on and Wiggin's should've said similar.

 

[Parker]

did brad not say 'i never raced WITH lance?'

really? what sort of a drinking binge was brad on..................what non cyclists would describe.........'a quiet drink'

other than the media sharks the whole world is turning against lance...
.............hardly surprising that brad is too

He actually said that he had only once raced against him "during his reign" (i.e. when he was winning Tours). People like to leave that last bit off so it fits their ramblings

 

[Benotti69]

Wiggins mentions Kimmage and his bitterness.

Wiggin's really is something else.