Wiggins, Clinic respect?

[JimmyFingers]

He does play a mean guitar

 

[del1962]

As my original post has gone missing, I will repeat as my final point on the matter, using my google skill (which I think arent bad), I can find no evidence that Wiggins made any comment that could in any way be interpreted as criticising USADA, I may be wrong and if someone provides a link I will admit that. So until new evidence comes to light I will be of the opinio that "Wiggins position on USADA as a disgrace" is a complete fabrication.

 

[The Hitch]

Wiggins wants to get on people's good sides. If that means attempting to portray himself as rubbing shoulders with the "legend" then that is what he would do. I am not applauding him, rather probably condeming him but unfortunately with Wiggins that is the sad fact of the matter.

Just last week you said wiggins said he didnt know who Purito was in order to **** people off and you praised this as a very clever way of annoying everyone,

Now you say he wants everyone to like him?

So he wants everyone to like him or he wants everyone to find him annoying. Which is it?

 

[postmanhat]

A completely pointless thread for obsessives seems to have reached it's logical nadir.

Pop***** is quite good for celebrity character assasination apparently?

 

[thehog]

A completely pointless thread for obsessives seems to have reached it's logical nadir.

Pop***** is quite good for celebrity character assasination apparently?

Looks to be the end?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-wiggins-marginalised-as-froome-goes-from-strength-to-strength

The British newspaper reports that Wiggins is currently training in Mallorca after intense treatment on his knee but that he has made it clear to Team Sky that he does not want to ride the very mountainous Vuelta Espana. Instead he could ride the Tour of Poland and the Eneco Tour as preparation for the world championships in Florence.

Speculating long term, with Richie Porte apparently set to lead Team Sky at the Giro d'Italia in 2014, the Times goes as far as suggesting that Wiggins may never again lead Team Sky in a Grand Tour.

"It becomes reasonable to ask if Wiggins will lead a Sky team in a Grand Tour again. Will the Tour de France winner even ride again in that race? And have we seen the best of him?"

Team Sky has remained tight-lipped on Wiggins' conditions and his goals for the rest of the season, with only British Cycling head coach Shane Sutton publicly urging Wiggins to bounce back and find new goals.

 

[masking_agent]

good riddens to him and his poor attitude..

 

[Afrank]

Hmm, why does this news not surprise me in the least?

 

[rhubroma]

It is simply the market.

 

[Avoriaz]

Why are these last few posts in the clinic?

An article suggesting he may not lead again. No info about doping and no link to doping. Not clinic material.

Suggests his Sky days are done.

Ooh and published in a Murdoch paper.

You know, the one you anti Sky guys say would never publish such a story.....

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Man, he sure has turned into a bone-idle c**t. "I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta!"

What a wa*ker.

 

[BroDeal]

Man, he sure has turned into a bone-idle c**t. "I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta!"

What a wa*ker.

As Roy Batty learned from the Tyrell Corporation, the candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long. During all those years of riding in the autobus, Wiggins was saving himself for one big effort. Now he is spent. There is nothing left for the GTs, so all he can manage is to target the Tour of Poland.

I know it has not been very long but someone may need to refresh my memory. Is this not the same guy that Brits were crowing about for being the best cyclist in the world? That was some peak, multi year with a downside like the Nordwand of the Eiger.

 

[the sceptic]

Would be funny if the greatest cycling talent of all time turned into the new Cobo.

Why didnt Wiggins just retire after last year? it would have been perfect.

 

[blackcat]

$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Mr. McQ]

How about the "Clinic" owes SBW respect

How about that???

Classiest rider today

<worlds will be awesome>

 

[DirtyWorks]

During all those years of riding in the autobus, Wiggins was saving himself for one big effort. Now he is spent. There is nothing left for the GTs, so all he can manage is to target the Tour of Poland.

Like ALL clean grand tour riders pre-EPO. He sure has never tested positive!!

 

[DirtyWorks]

No info about doping and no link to doping. Not clinic material.

It sure is clinic material. A rider discovers grand tour climbing and TT domination in 2012 and sure got close to reproducing it in 2013. Suddenly, it's all gone. That's happened before oxygen vector doping...

 

[Libertine Seguros]

But it is also highly strange that the comedown has only seemingly affected Wiggins. If it was highly doping up, or having something undetectable eg the GW501516 that has recently started yielding positives and coincides with Wiggins' fall from grace, then you would surely expect the same to have happened to the other Sky guys, instead Porte's better than he's ever been and Froome's continuing to make races unwatchable for all but the hardened Riis fan.

Maybe it is psychological. Wiggins has got mission accomplished now. Winning the Giro or Vuelta are lesser highs than the Tour in terms of the global exposure, and he's probably feeling a bit hurt that he's got shafted with relation to the Tour this year. His main season's goal has ended in embarrassment, looking like a shadow of himself, descending like Ivan Basso's grandmother on rollerskates, and recording a humiliating DNF, and has then been shut out of the Tour partially through injury but potentially to avoid a power struggle - which Wiggins may regard as a slight and an explicit favouring of Froome by the team. As such, he's not happy with being handed what he sees as consolation prizes and is having a bit of a tantrum about it.

 

[Miburo]

But it is also highly strange that the comedown has only seemingly affected Wiggins. If it was highly doping up, or having something undetectable eg the GW501516 that has recently started yielding positives and coincides with Wiggins' fall from grace, then you would surely expect the same to have happened to the other Sky guys, instead Porte's better than he's ever been and Froome's continuing to make races unwatchable for all but the hardened Riis fan.

Maybe it is psychological. Wiggins has got mission accomplished now. Winning the Giro or Vuelta are lesser highs than the Tour in terms of the global exposure, and he's probably feeling a bit hurt that he's got shafted with relation to the Tour this year. His main season's goal has ended in embarrassment, looking like a shadow of himself, descending like Ivan Basso's grandmother on rollerskates, and recording a humiliating DNF, and has then been shut out of the Tour partially through injury but potentially to avoid a power struggle - which Wiggins may regard as a slight and an explicit favouring of Froome by the team. As such, he's not happy with being handed what he sees as consolation prizes and is having a bit of a tantrum about it.

Very good post, 100% agree.

 

[The Hitch]

Man, he sure has turned into a bone-idle c**t. "I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta, I don't want to ride the Vuelta!"

What a wa*ker.

I dont get it.

 

[armchairclimber]

Agreed, good post. It was fairly predictable even last year that Wiggins would struggle to match his form or achievements this season.
I do think he wanted to win the Giro but I don't think he wanted to put himself through the same privations again over the autumn/winter. Can't say I blame him. Maybe he believed that he was good enough to do it without.
The stroppiness, the poor descending, the eschewing of warm downs etc are all symptoms of a mind that isn't quite right.

 

[SundayRider]

But it is also highly strange that the comedown has only seemingly affected Wiggins. If it was highly doping up, or having something undetectable eg the GW501516 that has recently started yielding positives and coincides with Wiggins' fall from grace, then you would surely expect the same to have happened to the other Sky guys, instead Porte's better than he's ever been and Froome's continuing to make races unwatchable for all but the hardened Riis fan.

Maybe it is psychological. Wiggins has got mission accomplished now. Winning the Giro or Vuelta are lesser highs than the Tour in terms of the global exposure, and he's probably feeling a bit hurt that he's got shafted with relation to the Tour this year. His main season's goal has ended in embarrassment, looking like a shadow of himself, descending like Ivan Basso's grandmother on rollerskates, and recording a humiliating DNF, and has then been shut out of the Tour partially through injury but potentially to avoid a power struggle - which Wiggins may regard as a slight and an explicit favouring of Froome by the team. As such, he's not happy with being handed what he sees as consolation prizes and is having a bit of a tantrum about it.

Looked pretty strong in the TT, not exactly back to 'normal' BW levels.

 

[DirtyDennis]

I think with sport at this level, with front-runners so close to each other in terms of talent, it is always psychological. From what I've heard, self-belief has always been Wiggin's Achilles heel.

One can draw any inferences you like from this....for example you could surmise that this is evidence of a man whose confidence isn't being bolstered by having a better doping scheme than anyone else in the way that Armstrong's was.

But for the truth of the matter you will just have to wait.

 

[hrotha]

Very little mention is being made of what, from the outside, didn't look like the most professional and focused off-season.

 

[DirtyDennis]

Very little mention is being made of what, from the outside, didn't look like the most professional and focused off-season.

Indeed, and if this is the case Sky will drop him like a stone. Brailsford's regime in GB Track selection demonstrated that nobody is bigger than the team, nobody gets a free ride, and everybody has to earn their place.

I don't see Wiggin's stay in long, myself.

 

[armchairclimber]

Indeed, and if this is the case Sky will drop him like a stone. Brailsford's regime in GB Track selection demonstrated that nobody is bigger than the team, nobody gets a free ride, and everybody has to earn their place.

I don't see Wiggin's stay in long, myself.

This much is true. Ask Hoy. Brailsford is pretty ruthless.