Wiggins, Clinic respect?

[PhiLiz]

WITHIN THE WADA RULES
that's all I need to know

Brailsforf narrative and "guele de bois"? yes, that's it. for newspapers

Wada does not care about Brailsford narrative

EDIT - The other user said, quote, "He's never been under any actual investigation by UKAD, UCI or WADA".

He was under investigation by UKAD.

 

[samhocking]

Jiffy bag
in the room

That was never investigated by WADA, UKAD or UCI. The only anti-doping investigation was the Testogel delivery which ended with no doping evidence and passed to GMC who've now got it stuck in High Court medical tribunal having nothing to do with anti-doping or Wiggins. Wiggins has never been charged or had to defend anything as far as any public record shows. Even Daily Mail finally admitted they didn't know what was in the jiffybag, they could only imply what it might be according to Lawton and it's all a fabrication by Sutton anyway, so...

 

[PhiLiz]

That was never investigated by WADA, UKAD or UCI. The only anti-doping investigation was the Testogel delivery which ended with no doping evidence and passed to GMC who've now got it stuck in High Court medical tribunal having nothing to do with anti-doping or Wiggins. Wiggins has never been charged or had to defend anything as far as any public record shows. Even Daily Mail finally admitted they didn't know what was in the jiffybag, they could only imply what it might be according to Lawton and it's all a fabrication by Sutton anyway, so...

Oh no, someone hacked the UKAD website!

UKAD summary of its cycling investigation into the package delivered to Team Sky in June 2011 | UK Anti-Doping

www.ukad.org.uk

 

[samhocking]

And UKAD ended with what doping charges PhiLiz re. Wiggins, heck even re. Sky? The package all originates from Daily Mail and Sutton doing a deal sealed in a safe because Kimmage couldn't make sense of Suttons dates at The Times. Why do you think the High Court had to do what they ended up doing? UKAD investigated a newspaper story hidden by a legal signature, they didn't investigate a doping charge. GMC had to dig to the depths of the breakdown of Sutton's and Freemans relationship to even get any coherence about the Testogel delivery.

 

[hrotha]

"Wiggins was never formally investigated or accused" doesn't exactly convince me that "he got away with it" doesn't apply

 

[PhiLiz]

And UKAD ended with what doping charges PhiLiz re. Wiggins, heck even re. Sky? The package all originates from Daily Mail and Sutton doing a deal sealed in a safe because Kimmage couldn't make sense of Suttons dates at The Times. Why do you think the High Court had to do what they ended up doing? UKAD investigated a newspaper story hidden by a legal signature, they didn't investigate a doping charge. GMC had to dig to the depths of the breakdown of Sutton's and Freemans relationship to even get any coherence about the Testogel delivery.

I said nothing about charges. You said, several times he wasn't investigated by UKAD, which he was. The rest is just goalpost moving now that you got caught lying about it.

 

[Ripper]

I said nothing about charges. You said, several times he wasn't investigated by UKAD, which he was. The rest is just goalpost moving now that you got caught lying about it.

Yup

It appears Sky abused the living crap out of the TUE system. Who knows what custom cocktails each rider was taking. Perhaps some mix of corticosteroids, antidepressants, ADHD meds, and some inhalers (not too mention pain meds) Didn't DB or some other Sky staffer say something once about treating sports-related issues like medical issues?

 

[samhocking]

I said nothing about charges. You said, several times he wasn't investigated by UKAD, which he was. The rest is just goalpost moving now that you got caught lying about it.

Lying? They investigated what is and still remains only a newspaper allegation, no charge of doping ever materialised, letalone entered an anti-doping tribunal for Wiggins. It's a hot air story of Sutton pissed at Wiggins for not buying him a RangeRover as bonus and Freeman testifying against him and so got him sacked from British Cycling over Jess Varnish and basically ended Suttons career other than a few months Freelance coaching for China. Sutton lives in Spain, his family and young son in the UK. I mean, no doubt it strained his family relationship, but at the end of the day it's Team Sky & Wiggins carrying on as normal not Sutton or Freeman, so perhaps that tells you why nothing went anywhere re. doping.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Ah, I got it now Sam!
The jiffy bag contained
Hot Air!

 

[PhiLiz]

Yes, lying:

He's never been under any actual investigation by UKAD, UCI or WADA has he as far as I can tell? Newspapers, yes.

That was never investigated by WADA, UKAD or UCI. The only anti-doping investigation was the Testogel delivery which ended with no doping evidence and passed to GMC who've now got it stuck in High Court medical tribunal having nothing to do with anti-doping or Wiggins.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Unfortunately this article is paywalled

Bradley Wiggins has changed his tune on Lance Armstrong's cheating

The Tour de France winner Bradley Wiggins has described watching Lance Armstrong confess to doping with a mixture of emotions including “anger and sadness.”

www.independent.ie

it's Kimmage's response to Brad cosying up to Lance in a recent podcast.

Hypocrisy or what?

'You lying b******d': Bradley Wiggins no longer believes anything Lance Armstrong says

Oprah interview was "difficult to watch - heartbreaking for the sport. In the end, I felt he deserved everything he gets. I felt no sympathy for him”

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[ontheroad]

Unfortunately this article is paywalled

Bradley Wiggins has changed his tune on Lance Armstrong's cheating

The Tour de France winner Bradley Wiggins has described watching Lance Armstrong confess to doping with a mixture of emotions including “anger and sadness.”

www.independent.ie

it's Kimmage's response to Brad cosying up to Lance in a recent podcast.

Hypocrisy or what?

'You lying b******d': Bradley Wiggins no longer believes anything Lance Armstrong says

Oprah interview was "difficult to watch - heartbreaking for the sport. In the end, I felt he deserved everything he gets. I felt no sympathy for him”

www.mirror.co.uk

Just read the article and it is startling how Wiggins has been seduced again by Lance during this years Tour when choosing to appear on his Podcast. As a young rider he always appeared to be slightly in awe of Armstrong, then after Lance confessed he done a U turn and called him a lying bastard.

Which only makes his recent decisions and comments regarding Armstrong all the more curious. He brought up Lances name unprompted during race commentary during this years tour when he referred to him as ‘the great Lance Armstrong’ only days after appearing on his Podcast.

Wiggins always comes across as a very conflicted person. He labelled Lance a lying bastard yet he himself previously said that he had never had an injection prior to being exposed during the Fancy Bears hack.

He also castigated and threw all kinds of insults at Floyd Landis yet now refers to Lance as ‘the great Lance Armstrong’. It’s mental gymnastics and pure hypocrisy.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Brad is the Boris
of cycling

 

[Big Doopie]

Just read the article and it is startling how Wiggins has been seduced again by Lance during this years Tour when choosing to appear on his Podcast. As a young rider he always appeared to be slightly in awe of Armstrong, then after Lance confessed he done a U turn and called him a lying bastard.

Which only makes his recent decisions and comments regarding Armstrong all the more curious. He brought up Lances name unprompted during race commentary during this years tour when he referred to him as ‘the great Lance Armstrong’ only days after appearing on his Podcast.

Wiggins always comes across as a very conflicted person. He labelled Lance a lying bastard yet he himself previously said that he had never had an injection prior to being exposed during the Fancy Bears hack.

He also castigated and threw all kinds of insults at Floyd Landis yet now refers to Lance as ‘the great Lance Armstrong’. It’s mental gymnastics and pure hypocrisy.

btw, cavendish also appeared on the armstrong podcast.

i can literally never have respect for these guys. they are either tone deaf or complicit.

either way, get them out of cycling forever (along with nibali, valverde and the entire bahrain crew)...

 

[SHAD0W93]

btw, cavendish also appeared on the armstrong podcast.

i can literally never have respect for these guys. they are either tone deaf or complicit.

either way, get them out of cycling forever (along with nibali, valverde and the entire bahrain crew)...

Yeah I was about to add Cavendish in his book didn’t speak highly of Armstrong after his confession either.