Parker said:Which bit is wrong? Some of it may not be fully quantifiable, but it doesn't seem to far of the mark. It doesn't fit into the 'Armstrong is 100% bad' idea, I know.
Parker said:And Froome was well within the 2 minutes of the quote (1'16 to be precise).y.
Parker said:But why does he love Lance? Where is the rest of the quote? Is it because his 'love' is linked to the money he attracted to the sport and doesn't fit the agenda.
Selective quoting of Wiggins = good. Selective quoting of hrotha = bad. Right?
Parker said:The only quote I used was direct too - I deleted before and after, but the quote is intact. Check out the link I provided. And I didn't lie, I editorialised, spinning the story.
You will see thehog doing the same with a quote up there. The "in my whole reign" bit is (he means 'his' rather than 'my' I expect), as always, edited out.
Libertine Seguros said:This is a message board, not professional wrestling. Baiting and trolling with impunity, then when challenged or defeated pulling the "I was working you guys - I am so smart that I only pretended and you all fell for it" card, isn't that one of the oldest ploys in the book? It means that win, lose or draw, you can pretend to be above it all and that you can claim the win cos you manipulated everybody else. You were oh so aloof and above it all, shrugging your shoulders with Gallic nonchalance whilst writing what looked like heated argument and debate, leaving everybody else writhing in fury while you smiled and nodded - your plan was working.
cineteq said:Jonathan Vaughters @Vaughters
Ok, let's elaborate.Since Wiggo was absolute BFF with LA in 2009 Tour, LA was in Wiggo's ear every moment about how "he should leave Garmin"
The Hitch said:As was Cadel Evans in the 2007 tt which Wiggins was talking about.
When Wiggins said "not winning tts by 2 minutes" he was talking about how Vino beat him Bradley Wiggins by 2 minutes, not how Vino beat the next best rider in the field by 2 minutes.
Wiggins 2 minutes dowfinished 5th not 2nd in that tt.
So the correct comparison is did Wiggins beat the 5th placed rider by 2 minutes. Not did he beat the 2nd place rider by 2 minutes.
The more I see Wiggo talking on different interviews, the more I think he's behavior is freaking erratic, perhaps bipolar?WinterRider said:Rewatching that, I don't know how you could find ANYTHING wiggo says even remotely credible. I know he's just won the tour, but could he really not remember 2009? It stretches credulity past the breaking point.
skidmark said:Vaughters, Clinic respect?
Oh wait, he said that he thinks Wiggins is clean. I guess not. Well, hopefully skidmark respect is some kind of consolation, however pathetic it might be.
Parker said:What some of you have to understand is that riders will never express your views. The cycle in races, know the people and almost never look at internet forums. They will have heard rumours which they 100% knew are false. People here are the opposite. The spend every day here looking for doping gossip. To expect you views to correlate is absurd.
The Hitch said:Except no one is asking riders to do any of that. No one is asking or demanding riders to say anything.
Parker said:But whenever a rider says something that doesn't tally with what is expected, then they get savaged. Even Nicole Cooke got savaged (a jumping the shark moment - again).
This forum is just a vestibule for vitriol and with every turn justifies Wiggins's sweary invective.
I don't expect my views to match up to those of the pro péloton. They'd hate my views on parcours design unless they weigh about 50kg anyway.Parker said:No, there was some clear structure to it. Using a past quote with little context against a present statement, in exactly the same way you and others were doing. I've made my point - I'm not persisting. I actually think that hrotha is a sensible poster generally, targeting one of the idiots wouldn't have been worthwhile.
What some of you have to understand is that riders will never express your views. The cycle in races, know the people and almost never look at internet forums. They will have heard rumours which they 100% knew are false. People here are the opposite. The spend every day here looking for doping gossip. To expect you views to correlate is absurd.