Wiggins could miss TDF due to chest infection, knee injury

[Jelantik]

top 10 one-hit-wonders

1. Sit bradley wiggins - steady watts in yellow (2012)
2. Los del rio - macarena (1996)
3. Vanilla ice - ice ice baby (1990)
4. Baha men - who let the dogs out? (2000)
5. Johan vansummeren - easy going cobbles (2011)
6.dexys midnight runners - come on eileen (1982)
7.nena - 99 luftballons (1984)
8.roger walkowiak - black and white and yellow (1956)
9.meredith brooks - bit ch (1997)
10.survivor - eye of the tiger (1982)

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[Ripper]

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[Bernie's eyesore]

Yeah,he ****ed cycling a bit for almost one year,what a great achievement that is.

I agree, he also did pretty well in 2009 and 2011 as well. Not a bad career at all for a rider who didn't start taking the road seriously until he was 28. Glad to see you're a fan and enjoyed what he did last year.

 

[BroDeal]

I agree, he also did pretty well in 2009 and 2011 as well. Not a bad career at all for a rider who didn't start taking the road seriously until he was 28. Glad to see you're a fan and enjoyed what he did last year.

LOL. He did not take road cycling serious? I assume he will be happy to pay back his salary for those seven years he raced on the road before getting "serious". Sounds like fraud to me.

 

[karlboss]

Given that he won't be 100%, there are 2 choices. Pull out and aim for something else, or go and be a team player, as much as Wiggins is bagged even at 95% of his form last year, he'd be the 3rd best climber (yes I know he's not a real climber blah blah blah) on that team. Definitely useful pulling on the flats and in the TTT.
Personally I may have gained a little appreciation if he were to enter and be a faithful domestique. Just like I have for Andy doing something and not pulling out of the ToC. Pulling out, makes him seem a bit, how do I put this, like a sook.

 

[ILovecycling]

I agree, he also did pretty well in 2009 and 2011 as well. Not a bad career at all for a rider who didn't start taking the road seriously until he was 28. Glad to see you're a fan and enjoyed what he did last year.

Ohh of course

 

[Galic Ho]

This is a very strange thing. Some nice language used. Fair to say, quite a few here think this action by Wiggins is cowardly. Now I'm not saying it is, but even Armstrong, despite his sociopath mentality, still turned up and raced. Heck when he was done in 2010, he still finished.

So what to make of Wiggins pulling out? His call. Now I can't but help wonder if Clinic matters are at play, but even if they aren't, who says what he has and then does this? Is that the mark of a decent and admirable sportsman? Someone people here have labelled as a champion. I think not. Many people can at least respect you if an effort is made to honour the race, your win from the previous year and your team who without, you'd have won diddly squat.

Well Bradley Wiggins sowed his field. He's now reaping it. No this isn't a positive thing or a dig at him, it's sad. Sad that cycling has degenerated to this. Where a man cannot even show an ounce of respect to a guy who regardless of how he does it, could have throttled you for the win last year and DID NOT. Where is the loyalty and respect for the fans, team mates and the sport?

To think so many British cheered; for this. So sad. Cycling deserves better. People deserve better. This is just a repeat of the garbage in Romandie which repeated in the Giro. Didn't have it, so threw it in. This is what happens when you model yourself on those of poor character and standing like Armstrong. Everyone get's disrespected and lied to. Says a lot about the character of certain folk and their total lack of nobility.

People want to know why guys like Contador, Nibali and Sastre never have copped a ton of flack on this forum. One word. RESPECT. They respect themselves and the sport enough to TRY. Sure they've fallen short, but they put in an effort. Cycling deserves better than this type of "I've done my one trick, now I can depart and take what I've leeched from the sport" behaviour.

At least we won't have the naive journalists making this Tour into one over hyped drama fest. That will be good.

 

[The Hitch]

Like I said, Froome did a great job for the team. Wiggo has become Evans pre 2010. Poison. But only to some of the keyboard knights. The real Wiggo fans won't care like the real Evan's fans. And that's the way it should be.

You are totally moving the goal posts. You made a dumb clinic comment and said that froome didn't really do anything for Wiggins, then when I rebutted both points you reply with some stuff about popularity. I dont care whether your upset about your perceptions on how Wiggins and your hero Evans are viewed on this forum. Its got nothing to do with the discussion you introduced

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Or he is really not in good enough shape and would take up a place that someone else would be better suited for. He could turn up to honour the race and then pull out a week later when things get tougher. How does that benefit Froome?

And given the time Froome lost at the start and with the time trials it is by no means certain he would have won that Tour.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

In the clinic people are absolutely certain of one unproven conclusion, and here there seems to be a collective certainty that Wiggins is faking an injury in a deliberate, disgraceful slight to the TDF as a race and Chris Froome as an individual.

Perhaps. But the ability of some people to write about it without a hint of doubt leaves me a little jealous of their tin-foil hat collections.

The fact it's even discussed as a binary possibility of injured or can't be bothered shows a lack of awareness which shouldn't really be surprising given the average age of posters.

 

[Galic Ho]

Or he is really not in good enough shape and would take up a place that someone else would be better suited for. He could turn up to honour the race and then pull out a week later when things get tougher. How does that benefit Froome?

And given the time Froome lost at the start and with the time trials it is by no means certain he would have won that Tour.

Remove first place, and consider the option that Froome held back a bit on the chronos because he was no.2 designated racer for Sky. Who wins then, comfortably? Froome.

But your other point stands but is still not solid. Cav was so helpful last year wasn't he! Didn't Sky lose a rider as well? Flecha? So ultimately down to 6 helpers. So even if they have Wiggins riding this year, that is still MORE help than Wiggins got last year.

Oh ye of little faith! Froome is fine! Think it through Pedro, you know this to be true. Froome has all the help he needs with 7 guys dedicated to him. Wiggins has an obligation to the history of the race to take that 8th spot. You race it if you can if you're the reigning champ. Heck Sastre got smoked in 2009, still made a solid effort. It's about character. You'd be a lot better off if you didn't make excuses for the poor behaviour. You won't loose brownie points with Sky if you call a spade a spade.

 

[brilleaben]

9/11 was an inside job, by the way.

 

[Galic Ho]

In the clinic people are absolutely certain of one unproven conclusion, and here there seems to be a collective certainty that Wiggins is faking an injury in a deliberate, disgraceful slight to the TDF as a race and Chris Froome as an individual.

Perhaps. But the ability of some people to write about it without a hint of doubt leaves me a little jealous of their tin-foil hat collections.

The fact it's even discussed as a binary possibility of injured or can't be bothered shows a lack of awareness which shouldn't really be surprising given the average age of posters.

Actually the most logical reason is Clinic material. He stopped doing what he started doing.

And no, I don't blame him for it. Is so OBVIOUS it isn't funny. It's just sad that people think this type of behaviour was the best thing to happen last year. Writing was on the wall and sadly, yes, cycling fans get what they deserve because of their naivety, blind faith and total lack of discernment.

Cadel Evans rode the 2010 Tour with a broken arm. Tyler Hamilton rode with a broken collar bone. Excuses, excuses. Then there is the truth, let go and it will set you free.

 

[Poursuivant]

If it is so obvious he stopped the "clinic" stuff, why would he finish within a minute of Nibali and co. on a genuine climb?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Remove first place, and consider the option that Froome held back a bit on the chronos because he was no.2 designated racer for Sky. Who wins then, comfortably? Froome.

But your other point stands but is still not solid. Cav was so helpful last year wasn't he! Didn't Sky lose a rider as well? Flecha? So ultimately down to 6 helpers. So even if they have Wiggins riding this year, that is still MORE help than Wiggins got last year.

Oh ye of little faith! Froome is fine! Think it through Pedro, you know this to be true. Froome has all the help he needs with 7 guys dedicated to him. Wiggins has an obligation to the history of the race to take that 8th spot. You race it if you can if you're the reigning champ. Heck Sastre got smoked in 2009, still made a solid effort. It's about character. You'd be a lot better off if you didn't make excuses for the poor behaviour. You won't loose brownie points with Sky if you call a spade a spade.

Sastre was a badass. That was his fourth straight GT, he'd been on the podium of all 3 (only promoted to 3rd in the '09 Giro during the '09 Tour, of course, but he had won two mountaintop finishes), he had nothing in the tank, but when the Romme/Colombière double came and he had nothing left at all, he was still the first one to get on the attack and kickstart the action amongst the GC men, even if he blew up when the others came back past him and he lost minutes.

When was the last time a defending Tour champ didn't show up? I mean, it happens at the Giro and Vuelta sometimes when people are going to the Tour instead (Menchov 2010, Contador 2009 at both) but usually unless there's a suspension the defending champ will show up. Now we can have the debate, which was the less dignified Grand Tour defence, Juanjo Cobo being dropped in the opening TTT or Wiggins not showing up? Even then, though, Movistar did right by Cobo and when Valverde crashed in red and Sky put the hammer down, they had Cobo and Intxausti up the road; Intxausti was clearly in better form (eventually finished 10th) but they knew it was not fair to ask the defending champion to domestique on stage 4 when they're still in the GC mix (and because of the TTT, in a good spot too). Sure, Cobo was domestiquing in week 3 when he'd already fallen way out of the race, but in the early running, the defending champion gets some privileges.

 

[Galic Ho]

If it is so obvious he stopped the "clinic" stuff, why would he finish within a minute of Nibali and co. on a genuine climb?

Did he finish the race? Does he look anything like he was last year? Was he rabbiting on about being 'the man' all last year? No. All psychological tells.

You guys need to get outside and get some sun. Brighten your outlook up. Face it, Wiggins doesn't have it and he is saving face (well he thinks he is). I said this during Romandie. People whined then. What happened in the Giro? He QUIT. He knows he doesn't have it. It's psychological. Not physical. Don't care about the physical side, that is irrelevant. It's the attitude that is the problem.

Oh and he's an habitual liar and defender of frauds. Yeah, he's not EVER going to lie or con ANYONE now is he? What I cannot fathom is how people keep defending someone who delights in misleading them. He's injured so badly then prove it. He won't. Sky won't. Actually they sound quite happy he's not going. Good for them. Oh and good for Wiggins in the regard that he won't have another miserable month of July or did you forget what he said about last years Tour being enjoyable?

This is what happen when people make cyclists into idols. They get lost and loose focus. Keep it real folks.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Remove first place, and consider the option that Froome held back a bit on the chronos because he was no.2 designated racer for Sky. Who wins then, comfortably? Froome.

But your other point stands but is still not solid. Cav was so helpful last year wasn't he! Didn't Sky lose a rider as well? Flecha? So ultimately down to 6 helpers. So even if they have Wiggins riding this year, that is still MORE help than Wiggins got last year.

Oh ye of little faith! Froome is fine! Think it through Pedro, you know this to be true. Froome has all the help he needs with 7 guys dedicated to him. Wiggins has an obligation to the history of the race to take that 8th spot. You race it if you can if you're the reigning champ. Heck Sastre got smoked in 2009, still made a solid effort. It's about character. You'd be a lot better off if you didn't make excuses for the poor behaviour. You won't loose brownie points with Sky if you call a spade a spade.

Who is making excuses? You are hazarding a guess at why he is not riding the Tour. I am suggesting an alternative reason. Either could be true.

What makes you think Froome held back? Was he also holding back in the Olympics?

I think that if Wiggins had ridden and had pulled out that many people would be saying that he took up a spot that could have been used by another rider.

Cav did indeed ride and they lost another rider (Siutsou). Again, if things had not gone Wiggins way I am pretty sure people would have been saying how they should never have taken Cav (which would seem a reasonable argument).

 

[movingtarget]

You are totally moving the goal posts. You made a dumb clinic comment and said that froome didn't really do anything for Wiggins, then when I rebutted both points you reply with some stuff about popularity. I dont care whether your upset about your perceptions on how Wiggins and your hero Evans are viewed on this forum. Its got nothing to do with the discussion you introduced

Actually I said Froome played the role of the good team mate so how do you interpret that as me saying he did nothing to help Wiggins ? Look at the words say them out loud if it helps. I know you don't care what I think. Your role as a forum oracle is well known. It does not change the fact that I think Wiggins is being treated unfairly, as for my comment about Di Luca I will cop the criticism for that one. As for my hero Evans. I thought you were my hero. The omniscient one.

 

[Galic Ho]

What makes you think Froome held back? Was he also holding back in the Olympics?

Deflection noted. Forum consensus is that yes, Wiggins had the team hold Froome back. Seriously dude, you already know this if you've been around here since last July. Whether you AGREE with it, well that is your issue. But it is the generally accepted version of events. If Froome was unleashed, it was going to be a much different race. He looked like he was on a LEASH. These things are obvious if you've watched enough cycling. But again, that's your problem.

I think that if Wiggins had ridden and had pulled out that many people would be saying that he took up a spot that could have been used by another rider.

You thought wrong. Read the thread. Only the uber Wiggins fans are praising him. It's called an EXCUSE. Again, your issue, not mine.

Cav did indeed ride and they lost another rider (Siutsou). Again, if things had not gone Wiggins way I am pretty sure people would have been saying how they should never have taken Cav (which would seem a reasonable argument).

Again, with the hypothetical's on something that has been written. Why do that? We know what happened. Cav was wasted and fell over so many times it wasn't funny. He was a dead weight. Hence why he NOW RIDES for OPQS.

The fact remains, if Wiggins is as good as his fans have said he is, then YES, there is most definitely a spot for him as a helper for Chris Froome. Problem is there is more than enough evidence to suggest the sheer idea of that is unpalatable to Wiggins. Catching on??? He doesn't want to ride, so they made whatever reason up AFTER the matter to excuse his absence. If he had tendinitis badly enough, he'd be in surgery and we'd have heard about it a week and a half ago. It's internal politics based of PERSONALITY. Otherwise known as EGO.

I think it's a good thing he isn't riding. Less drama for the silly commentators to talk about non stop for 3 weeks.

 

[del1962]

What's wrong with that? Given the way he acts with the media, his all for me approach to races, his results so far this year, and his seemingly lack of any motivation at the Giro, it wouldn't be that surprising to me at least if not too many teams wanted him as their GC rider just so they wouldn't have to deal with all that.

I would have thought that lots of teams would have him at the right price, as he is always going to raise the profile of the sponsors in the UK, even if he underachieves.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

If he had tendinitis badly enough, he'd be in surgery and we'd have heard about it a week and a half ago. It's internal politics based of PERSONALITY. Otherwise known as EGO.

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At its meeting in Louisville (USA) at the beginning of the month, the UCI Management Committee approved a change to the UCI No Needle Policy, forbidding an athlete to compete within eight days of receiving a local injection of glucocorticosteroids.

De facto, Sky's PR is again BS. Wigans had a minor tendonitis in the Giro, according to himself, when he abandoned the Giro two weeks ago he could/should have been treated with cortisone and he would have been just fine fleur by now. Even with cortisone patches he would have been race fit for the Tour. He just dont want to play second violin to the peasant from Africa.

 

[Ninouka]

Fearless Greg Lemond - why do you think Froome is a peasant?

Chances are he grew up in some comfort and privelidge with a sense of entitlement and superiority that sadly accompanies white people growing up in Africa.
I dont know much about him so please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Fearless Greg Lemond - why do you think Froome is a peasant?

Chances are he grew up in some comfort and privelidge with a sense of entitlement and superiority that sadly accompanies white people growing up in Africa.
I dont know much about him so please correct me if I am wrong.

Sorry if you misunderstood me, in 'the mindset of a knight' Froome is a peasant. Dont take it literally, take it figuratively.

 

[Ninouka]

Sorry if you misunderstood me, in 'the mindset of a knight' Froome is a peasant. Dont take it literally, take it figuratively.

Sorry I was being intentionally obtuse and disingenuous in order to highlight the fact that you are attributing an oppinion of Froome by Wiggins that he is unlikely to have - considering the differences in their backgrounds.

 

[manafana]

wiggins will always play the excuse when it doesnt work out like it did in his head, doesnt accept that he could just not be good enough on a day.