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cineteq

cineteq

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Miburo said:
If Wiggins has some brains he knows he has no chance to win against Contador at 100%, not even against Contador at 95%. I think not even one of us will give him more than 1% chance.
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Wiggins, or any rider shouldn't base his participation in the Tour on the fact Contador is participating. The fact that he's the defending champion is reason enough to go for it. Froome, to avoid drama, should target the Giro/Vuelta and problem solved.
 
LaFlorecita

LaFlorecita

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The Hitch said:
Not entirely. The newspapers too, but when it comes to thinking Wiggins is king for good, its mainly what the fans say.

At the olympics i head numerous people expouse confidence that Wiggins will easily retain the tour next year. 1 group i was sitting next to on the train expressed their regret at not making it to Paris for his win but decided they would definately go for it next year as no one could challenge him.
Another group at box hill were trying to calculate how many years until the next non British winner because from what they saw at the Tour no one can challenge Froome or wiggins for a while

And on the newspaper message boards ive been laughed at for saying wiggins will struggle to beat Contador next year because Contador off drugs will be struggling to finish the race.

Some of those "journalists" who write major op ed pieces about cycling now despite only knowing about 1 sport - football (eg martin samuel, supposed "sports writer of the decade" who made a laughable comparison of Hinaults and Lances alpe d huez climbs saying that a non dopers limit should be beating Hinault by 3 minutes maximum - ergo anything under 45 minutes on alpe - is doping), some of these journalists will express confidence that Britain will now dominate the Tour de France and hence cycling, but i think the ones who actually know a little about cycling know not to put too much pressure on their friend and just celebrate Wiggins recent win.
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Wow hitch :eek: I didnt realize it is this bad
 
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This seems to be typical Wiggins believing his own press and opening his mouth before thinking. He should listen to the team and go to the Giro and then as backup for Frome in the tour.
 
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Is there a possibility here that Froome has not signed "The Document" and will be leaving just like Rogers. Wiggins and Froome falling out over the Tour leader role would be good cover.
 
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Froome should have stabbed him in the back when he had the chance. I just hope he rides for himself this year no matter what the team say.
 
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Boardslide said:
This seems to be typical Wiggins believing his own press and opening his mouth before thinking. He should listen to the team and go to the Giro and then as backup for Frome in the tour.
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No, he should defend his title. He'll probably lose, but it's more honourable than wussing out and dodging Contador.
 
Publicus

Publicus

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Miburo said:
If Wiggins has some brains he knows he has no chance to win against Contador at 100%, not even against Contador at 95%. I think not even one of us will give him more than 1% chance.

British newspapers (according to hitch) think he's the best GT rider of this moment.

Besides a lot of people are already bashing him for the Froome-stuff. That will only get worse.

Sky might risk in losing Froome whois the real future for Sky. So will Sky risk it to **** of Froome?

Giro is right now perfect. And he can use the excuse of trying to become a 'legend'. And beating Nibali is way easier than handling with Contador.

If Wiggins thinks having Froome in your team is stressful than what about Contador? You've never EVER done with this dude. If he's 10 seconds behind on the last stage I'm sure he'll attack on the champs-elysee.

Smart choice is obviously riding the giro.

Obviously I hope he goes for the tour. I don't think I need to explain why ;)
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Any athlete who goes into an event admitting that he has little to no chance to beat a competitor has effectively conceded the race. No need to line up, or train for that matter. Psychologically, I think Wiggles has to believe that he can beat Contador. I'm sure he's rationalized his 2009 thumping was the result of doping, etc., and that this is his chance to prove his bonafides. I'm not saying I AGREE with him; just that I understand and respect his thinking.
 
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bigcog

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I think Sky will back Wiggins over Froome unfortunately, given the media coverage in the UK and Brailsford history with Wiggins. I think Froome will regret not going for it this year ... If they both ride it though I can't see Froome acting as Wiggins super domestic. No way will Wiggins support Froome, his ego wouldn't allow it.
 
Afrank

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Add another reason to dislike Wiggo, he already sidelined Froome in the first half of the 2011 Vuelta, and in the Tour this year. Now he's obstructing Froome's preparation. If I remember correctly, Froome in a earlier interview this year was saying he just wanted to know which GT he should focus on so he can adequately prepare for it. Froome should just crush Wiggo at the tour then go to a new team.

The Hitch said:
At the olympics i head numerous people expouse confidence that Wiggins will easily retain the tour next year. 1 group i was sitting next to on the train expressed their regret at not making it to Paris for his win but decided they would definately go for it next year as no one could challenge him.
Another group at box hill were trying to calculate how many years until the next non British winner because from what they saw at the Tour no one can challenge Froome or wiggins for a while
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I hope you educated those people, or did you just quietly laugh? :D

uphillstruggle said:
Froome should have stabbed him in the back when he had the chance. I just hope he rides for himself this year no matter what the team say.
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+1
 
Angliru

Angliru

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Don't be late Pedro said:
and the Giro trophy

giro10st00gc-trophy.jpg


Italian style I guess. Hard to beat.
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IMO most beautiful trophy of them all.
 
Angliru

Angliru

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movingtarget said:
I think Wiggins is making a mistake. Bonus seconds still would not have wiped out the TT gains. Maybe he is serious about helping Froome win the Tour like he said he would which I think Froome has earned.
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I get the impression he is serious about pursuing his own interests, which is riding the schedule of his choosing with leadership roles at his own discretion, and will only ride for Froome at the Tour if Sky management demands it. If I were Froome I would not accept any role at the Giro, maintaining that the Tour is the season goal and while gladly sharing leadership with Bradley, would not hesitate to ride my own race, with no regards to Wiggins' potential difficulties. Froome's time is now and he deserves to have a grand tour that he can start in his best possible condition to win.

Wiggins did state that he was going to go for the Giro win in 2013 and now he's hedging on even participating in the Giro. Froome has to be steaming right now. I can see serious drama building for 2013. Should be fun!!
 
The Hitch

The Hitch

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Afrank said:
Add another reason to dislike Wiggo, he already sidelined Froome in the first half of the 2011 Vuelta, and in the Tour this year.
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Not only that, he actually argued repeatidly in pre Tour interviews when asked if Froome would have joint leadership, that a team can have only 1 leader.

His phrase was "if the team chooses me as the leader Chris will work for me and if they decide Chris should be the leader, then we will put all the effort behind him"- knowing full well of course that he was going to be chosen the leader.

So if Wiggins is for real now arguing that Sky can have 2 leaders next year then that is just ridiculous.

I say if because ill give him the benefit of the doubt until it happens.

And then afterwards Froomes girl got absolutely pounded on the internet by sexist pigs saying that she doesnt understand cycling becuase teams always choose 1 leader for the Tour de France. The example always cited afterwards was of UPS of course.

I hope you educated those people, or did you just quietly laugh?
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My hope was, and still is, that Wiggins will go for the Tour, and they can be get their education through experience;)
 
maxmartin

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as expected, only idiots believe W will not defend his Tour title. Poor CF, but he might have his chance though, when AC attack if only he can follow.:D

But one thing for sure, it will be another DRAMA filled SKY tour team, good news for the media and our entertainment :rolleyes:
 
hfer07

hfer07

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Angliru said:
I get the impression he is serious about pursuing his own interests, which is riding the schedule of his choosing with leadership roles at his own discretion, and will only ride for Froome at the Tour if Sky management demands it. If I were Froome I would not accept any role at the Giro, maintaining that the Tour is the season goal and while gladly sharing leadership with Bradley, would not hesitate to ride my own race, with no regards to Wiggins' potential difficulties. Froome's time is now and he deserves to have a grand tour that he can start in his best possible condition to win.
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+10000

No wonder why Froome is so itchy to get 2013 going & part ways to join Vino.....

Astana 2014 will be "the Super Team" of them all :D
 
Cimber

Cimber

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The Hitch said:
Not entirely. The newspapers too, but when it comes to thinking Wiggins is king for good, its mainly what the fans say.

At the olympics i head numerous people expouse confidence that Wiggins will easily retain the tour next year. 1 group i was sitting next to on the train expressed their regret at not making it to Paris for his win but decided they would definately go for it next year as no one could challenge him.
Another group at box hill were trying to calculate how many years until the next non British winner because from what they saw at the Tour no one can challenge Froome or wiggins for a while

And on the newspaper message boards ive been laughed at for saying wiggins will struggle to beat Contador next year because Contador off drugs will be struggling to finish the race.

Some of those "journalists" who write major op ed pieces about cycling now despite only knowing about 1 sport - football (eg martin samuel, supposed "sports writer of the decade" who made a laughable comparison of Hinaults and Lances alpe d huez climbs saying that a non dopers limit should be beating Hinault by 3 minutes maximum - ergo anything under 45 minutes on alpe - is doping), some of these journalists will express confidence that Britain will now dominate the Tour de France and hence cycling, but i think the ones who actually know a little about cycling know not to put too much pressure on their friend and just celebrate Wiggins recent win.
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It will be a rude awakening for some islanders in july.
 
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