Wiggins Discussion thread.

[cineteq]

Pardon me if I regurgitate my dinner. What next, a peerage after he retires?

Addressing him as Sir?....not on your life.

I'm pretty sure he's going to use this title and force Froome to call him Sir Bradley at the Tour.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I'm pretty sure he's going to use this title and force Froome to call him Sir Bradley at the Tour.

lol, love it.

 

[Christian]

Arise Sir Bradley Wiggins, Sir Dave Brailsford

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...-to-be-knighted-in-New-Year-Honours-list.html

Maybe it's a cultural thing but to me this whole knighthood/sir thing seems quite silly, personally I wouldn't want any such title. If ever I did something extraordinary I'd be glad if someone recognized it but this just seems so old-fashioned and backwards to me

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Maybe it's a cultural thing but to me this whole knighthood/sir thing seems quite silly, personally I wouldn't want any such title. If ever I did something extraordinary I'd be glad if someone recognized it but this just seems so old-fashioned and backwards to me

who would accedt anything by something as backwards as a queen/king/royalty. good god, we live in the 21st century.

 

[Froome19]

Brailsford though certainly deserves a knighthood, not as sure about Bradley..

 

[Froome19]

Maybe it's a cultural thing but to me this whole knighthood/sir thing seems quite silly, personally I wouldn't want any such title. If ever I did something extraordinary I'd be glad if someone recognized it but this just seems so old-fashioned and backwards to me

It is steeped in tradition etc etc, if you live elsewhere and can not relate to that tradition then it is obvious that you would not be able to understand its relevance..

 

[Christian]

It is steeped in tradition etc etc, if you live elsewhere and can not relate to that tradition then it is obvious that you would not be able to understand its relevance..

Yeah that's what I suspected ... difficult to understand for non-brits, I guess

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

It is steeped in tradition etc etc, if you live elsewhere and can not relate to that tradition then it is obvious that you would not be able to understand its relevance..

I live in the netherlands and here people also get credited by the queen and it's just as backwards as yours

 

[Froome19]

I live in the netherlands and here people also get credited by the queen and it's just as backwards as yours

I can not speak for the Netherlands but in Britain it is an honour which is considered very prestigious...

It would be a shame imo to call Wiggins a "sir", but then again Sir Chris is doing pretty well with his one by his name..

 

[The_Z_man]

I guess the answer to my question was, "Christmas."

 

[Tei6chai]

It's "Sir Bradley" not "Sir Wiggins"

I'm a republican and a democrat, with little time for medieval fantasy titles, but if you are determined to big them up, please make an effort to use the correct terminology.

The convention is to call knights and dames by their given name, never their family name.

So it's Sir Chris, Sir Dave, and Sir Bradley.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I'm a republican and a democrat, with little time for medieval fantasy titles, but if you are determined to big them up, please make an effort to use the correct terminology.

The convention is to call knights and dames by their given name, never their family name.

So it's Sir Chris, Sir Dave, and Sir Bradley.

meh, Sir Wiggins sounds much better. Next in line will be Sir Cav.

 

[The Hitch]

I can not speak for the Netherlands but in Britain it is an honour which is considered very prestigious...

Maybe for you but for.those of us who don't give a **** about celebrities its a meaningless long devalued award.

Who gets the knighthood, the person who devotes his life.to help get inner city kids out of gangs and gets them an education? The doctor who develops vital.medication? The police officer who puts his.life.on the line?

No its the guy who hosts a chatshow, the guy who commentaries on football, the guy who gets cast in Hollywood movies.

You don't speak for.me.and you don't speak for millions of brits who don't while away their Saturday evenings watching the x factor.

 

[zalacain]

Wish he'd do what Danny Boyle did and say no thanks!

 

[AntonioRossi]

Froome is the man for the Tour according to Wiggins from sky sports news. Just on the tv was a short interview with wiggins and he said Froome was the obvious choice for the tour if he would go for the Giro. Wiggins did say that he would be at the tour as 2nd leader

 

[Christian]

Wish he'd do what Danny Boyle did and say no thanks!

Oh so people actually do that, I was wondering about that! Mad respect for Danny Boyle

 

[Froome19]

Maybe for you but for.those of us who don't give a **** about celebrities its a meaningless long devalued award.

Who gets the knighthood, the person who devotes his life.to help get inner city kids out of gangs and gets them an education? The doctor who develops vital.medication? The police officer who puts his.life.on the line?

No its the guy who hosts a chatshow, the guy who commentaries on football, the guy who gets cast in Hollywood movies.

You don't speak for.me.and you don't speak for millions of brits who don't while away their Saturday evenings watching the x factor.

Lol, I don't watch X Factor and I have long grown tired of celebrity rubbish. I have not followed all that for a while. If I asked many of the people I know what they considered of a knighthood they would have answered what I have written above. The press and media consider it the same way, not to say that means anything, but there is an undeniable consensus who believe that. There may be some people who either have not grown up in England and do not really relate to its history and culture or people who are cynics and understandably are unimpressed by some people who have received the honour . And even nowadays knighthoods are given to very honourable people. Just there are some as well who are not as honourable and should not be given it. OBEs and all that are generally given to the people you described only the ones who standout are given knighthood.

Oh and here is a link to the queen's honours list for last year. What percentage of the knighthoods were given to people who were as you described? They are the most noticeable, but dont assume they are the only ones just because you disdain them.

honours list

 

[Tom375]

And even nowadays knighthoods are given to very honourable people. Just there are some as well who are not as honourable and should not be given it.

Ehhhr
Jimmy Saville
Fred Goodwin

Although to be fair I think they stripped Goodwin's off him, but there's a lt of those sort of characters made knights etc.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I can not speak for the Netherlands but in Britain it is an honour which is considered very prestigious...

It would be a shame imo to call Wiggins a "sir", but then again Sir Chris is doing pretty well with his one by his name..

it's also considered an honor in the netherlands. that doesn't mean it isn't utter backwards crap, that belongs in the dark ages.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Oh so people actually do that, I was wondering about that! Mad respect for Danny Boyle

people do that everywhere. it's just not in the news often, because they rather show people kissing ***

 

[The Hitch]

Lol, I don't watch X Factor and I have long grown tired of celebrity rubbish. I have not followed all that for a while.

I would not consider someone who presents foodball highlights for 30 years to be the creme de la creme of society.

You may claim not to care about celebrities, but it is celebrities that are given it, and this discussion is essentially a discussion about celebrities, and you take the side that they should be distinguished for their celebrity status.

There may be some people who either have not grown up in England and do not really relate to its history and culture or people who are cynics and understandably are unimpressed by some people who have received the honour

I can relate to England's history pretty well thank you very much, but when i look at the people who are given a knighthood these days, i can see that it has lost all its glamour and is now just bull****.

 

[Froome19]

Ehhhr
Jimmy Saville
Fred Goodwin

Although to be fair I think they stripped Goodwin's off him, but there's a lt of those sort of characters made knights etc.

I can relate to England's history pretty well thank you very much, but when i look at the people who are given a knighthood these days, i can see that it has lost all its glamour and is now just bull****.

If you click on the link I linked to, and looked at the first two pages of honours which are for the knighthood you will see that the majority (if any?) are not celebrities.

There may be a few who are not, but they are anomalies not the general trend.

 

[The Hitch]

If you click on the link I linked to, and looked at the first two pages of honours which are for the knighthood you will see that the majority (if any?) are not celebrities.

There may be a few who are not, but they are anomalies not the general trend.

Many of the people who won the nobel peace prize may have been great heroes of peace but when they gave it to Henry Kissinger they devauled the award and later to a lesser extent with obama gore and agnes bojaxiu they devalued the award so that only a couple of narcisistic professors in Norway think it means anything,

Likewise when they give a knighthood to desmon lyman or jimmy saville purely because they were famous it devaules the whole award.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Many of the people who won the nobel peace prize may have been great heroes of peace but when they gave it to Henry Kissinger they devauled the award and later to a lesser extent with obama gore and agnes bojaxiu they devalued the award so that only a couple of narcisistic professors in Norway think it means anything,

Likewise when they give a knighthood to desmon lyman or jimmy saville purely because they were famous it devaules the whole award.

the nobel peace price has been a joke since it began. they even gave the thing to deir yassin for christ sake. the guy who committed huge genocide in palestina and under his comman murdered tends of thousands of palestinians, including children.

 

[Red Rick]

the nobel peace price has been a joke since it began. they even gave the thing to deir yassin for christ sake. the guy who committed huge genocide in palestina and under his comman murdered tends of thousands of palestinians, including children.

the fact that the EU won was a total farce imo. Probably 95% of the population only gives a damn about what each decision regarding the recession means for themselves, instead for the whole community.