Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[TourOfSardinia]

Bertie (or maybe it was Floyd) is back!
There Will Be Blood.

Landis' bridging and burning epic also came to my mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q76MnxPMB0

 

[EnacheV]

I can't see anyone saying Contador is definitely clean here. Just because we're not throwing out numbers doesn't mean there's no noise.

No "mon dieu !!!! extraterrestrial !!!!!" from festinaboy Vayer ?! im at dissapoint, it's very easy to type on twitter

 

[Fatclimber]

No "mon dieu !!!! extraterrestrial !!!!!" from festinaboy Vayer ?! im at dissapoint, it's very easy to type on twitter

Of course Bertie is exempt from a lot of criticism. He has earned a special place in many people's hearts by being the greatest doper-slayer of all time.

 

[del1962]

Of course Bertie is exempt from a lot of criticism. He has earned a special place in many people's hearts by being the greatest doper-slayer of all time.

Nah, that was Betsy, Walsh, JV, Tyler, Emma and Floyd

 

[bigcog]

Tinkov, the Olympics, well duh

 

[sniper]

Of course Bertie is exempt from a lot of criticism. He has earned a special place in many people's hearts by being the greatest doper-slayer of all time.

he earned a place in my heart only after he got exposed, did his time, came back, and showed character in the role of underdog.

 

[LaFlorecita]

he earned a place in my heart only after he got exposed, did his time, came back, and showed character in the role of underdog.

So will you gradually start disliking him again now that he's showing strength? Or doesn't it work like that

 

[Walkman]

he earned a place in my heart only after he got exposed, did his time, came back, and showed character in the role of underdog.

I am a bit disappointed in you sniper.

I always counted on you to be anti-doping, no matter what. And I don't really understand how he could have earned your respect by "doing his time", since…he didn't.

He raced almost all 2011 and ruined a lot of races since he fu**ed up the dynamic in the race by entering and competing. He was banned for like 6 months. A absolute disgrace if you ask me. Only in Spain.

 

[rhubroma]

I am a bit disappointed in you sniper.

I always counted on you to be anti-doping, no matter what. And I don't really understand how he could have earned your respect by "doing his time", since…he didn't.

He raced almost all 2011 and ruined a lot of races since he fu**ed up the dynamic in the race by entering and competing. He was banned for like 6 months. A absolute disgrace if you ask me. Only in Spain.

Yes, but how's Belgium doing on that account? Merckx? Boonen?

 

[Cance > TheRest]

I am a bit disappointed in you sniper.

I always counted on you to be anti-doping, no matter what. And I don't really understand how he could have earned your respect by "doing his time", since…he didn't.

He raced almost all 2011 and ruined a lot of races since he fu**ed up the dynamic in the race by entering and competing. He was banned for like 6 months. A absolute disgrace if you ask me. Only in Spain.

If you look at things from Contador's perspective, don't you think it's a bit unfair for Contador to let him participate in races, when he is racing to win, and then afterwards they just take away his victories? Atleast they could have settled a ban for him before 2011, instead of letting the poor soul win a giro, just to take it away again...
Overall, I agree that the case was handled improperly by not giving the man a 2 year ban from 2010 and onwards, but the punishment he got in the end was just as tough for him than if he had just been handed 2 years straight away.

 

[The Hitch]

No "mon dieu !!!! extraterrestrial !!!!!" from festinaboy Vayer ?! im at dissapoint, it's very easy to type on twitter

You do know Vayer was one of the very first people to call Contador a doper? Long before he failed a test he said contador's performance on verbier was impossible for a clean rider.

Of course Bertie is exempt from a lot of criticism. He has earned a special place in many people's hearts by being the greatest doper-slayer of all time.

Come on? I do get reasons why people can like Contador, but being on the good side of doping is not one of them. The guy is 100% omerta and doping through and through.

and if by great doper-slayer, you mean slaying Lance, well he kinda ruined that by then taking Lance's side and praising Lance, even after USADA.

 

[Cyivel]

Of all the things to accuse Vayer of, being shy or having any qualms on calling out anybody on doping isn't the one I'd have gone for.

 

[TourOfTexas]

he earned a place in my heart only after he got exposed, did his time, came back, and showed character in the role of underdog.

It's the only thing he knows how to do. Like a dog returning to its vomit.

 

[Big Doopie]

he earned a place in my heart only after he got exposed, did his time, came back, and showed character in the role of underdog.

he didn't show character.

he was the biggest proponent of omertà.

he continuously blamed allergies and poor training for his remarkable drop in results -- trying to pull yet another fraud on cycling fans. His TT-ing suffered the most -- getting caught for 2 minutes by an ex-team-mate who used to ride in his support.

had he come back from his ban and said that he had made mistakes but was now riding clean i would have given him the benefit of the doubt -- like basso. but he didn't. he wanted everyone to believe that he had been wronged and that his 5 GTs were won on his talent when it is abundantly clear that his "natural" TT-ing alone would have never permitted him to win a single one…

 

[red_flanders]

It's always more suspicious when it comes from an already proven doper.

Who has tested positive has about as much to do with who is doping and who won the academy award has to do with who was the best actor.

 

[willbick]

are you saying you can test positive without doping??!

 

[The Hitch]

It's always more suspicious when it comes from an already proven doper.

So today for example was more suspicious than Landis 06?

are you saying you can test positive without doping??!

Yes, you can. Especially for clenbuterol. But that wasn't his point.

 

[Granville57]

Of course Bertie is exempt from a lot of criticism. He has earned a special place in many people's hearts by being the greatest doper-slayer of all time.

if by great doper-slayer, you mean slaying Lance, well he kinda ruined that by then taking Lance's side and praising Lance, even after USADA.

He did disappoint with his shallow and transparent protection/support of Fraudstrong, but still, that can't undo the irreversible shattering of Lance's ego that was dealt so swiftly in just a few pedal-strokes-of-glory on Verbier in 2009. Not to mention the look on Lance's face as his stood on Step #3 in Paris.

That, to me, trumps all those embarrassing moments of Alberto's limp-wristed support of LA in the wake of USADA.

i would have given him the benefit of the doubt -- like basso.

Oh dear.

 

[42x16ss]

Just saw the highlights of last nights T-A stage

Is anyone else getting flashbacks to 2007? July will be something else. Catalunya should be special too...

 

[Fatclimber]

...
Come on? I do get reasons why people can like Contador, but being on the good side of doping is not one of them. The guy is 100% omerta and doping through and through.

and if by great doper-slayer, you mean slaying Lance, well he kinda ruined that by then taking Lance's side and praising Lance, even after USADA.

Well, first off, my comment was meant somewhat tongue-in-cheek. But still, this is what we're left with, picking the lesser of 2 evils (by a substantial margin in this case. Or 3 evils, not a Schleck fan either). la is the most arrogant, self-absorbed pri** that I can think of, and yeah, it was pretty awesome to see a little Spaniard on his own team hand him his azz while being bullied the whole time. And no, I don't admire Alberto for it. To me it simply demonstrated what a farce la was, just another chosen super doper that could be replaced by many candidates who could be slipped into the system.

Cycling has yet to prove it is worthy of serious discussion, from the sporting aspect least wise. There are very few participants who have any credibility if you want to go down that road. It is difficult to peer at the warped sewage that is professional cycling and find much to like about it. BUT, I do like the fact that Alberto kicked lance's hind end all over the countryside, regardless of what nonsense he spewed later.

And Alberto slayed hundred of dopers over the years, lance was just the most notable. I agree, there is no sporting accomplishment in doing so as Alberto is a doper too.

 

[Big Doopie]

Well, first off, my comment was meant somewhat tongue-in-cheek. But still, this is what we're left with, picking the lesser of 2 evils (by a substantial margin in this case. Or 3 evils, not a Schleck fan either). la is the most arrogant, self-absorbed pri** that I can think of, and yeah, it was pretty awesome to see a little Spaniard on his own team hand him his azz while being bullied the whole time. And no, I don't admire Alberto for it. To me it simply demonstrated what a farce la was, just another chosen super doper that could be replaced by many candidates who could be slipped into the system.

Cycling has yet to prove it is worthy of serious discussion, from the sporting aspect least wise. There are very few participants who have any credibility if you want to go down that road. It is difficult to peer at the warped sewage that is professional cycling and find much to like about it. BUT, I do like the fact that Alberto kicked lance's hind end all over the countryside, regardless of what nonsense he spewed later.

And Alberto slayed hundred of dopers over the years, lance was just the most notable. I agree, there is no sporting accomplishment in doing so as Alberto is a doper too.

Good post.

 

[the sceptic]

Just saw the highlights of last nights T-A stage

Is anyone else getting flashbacks to 2007? July will be something else. Catalunya should be special too...

Jens Attacks a couple of days ago declared that Contador would turn back the clock to 2009.

Then someone chimed in with something negative, and then someone else said "lets turn it back to 2007 then"

Not sure if Id go that far yet, I still think Froome would wipe the floor with Contador right now. But maybe Contador has got more up his sleeve. Either way, it will be closer this year than last.

 

[42x16ss]

Jens Attacks a couple of days ago declared that Contador would turn back the clock to 2009.

Then someone chimed in with something negative, and then someone else said "lets turn it back to 2007 then"

Not sure if Id go that far yet, I still think Froome would wipe the floor with Contador right now. But maybe Contador has got more up his sleeve. Either way, it will be closer this year than last.

Wipe the floor? Unless Sky have something in reserve Contador should push Froome hard in this kind of form.

If I can't see the entire sport getting overhauled in the next few months, I'll settle for a Tour full of Conti-Chicken '07 style dueling

Bring it on!

 

[Ripper]

Well, first off, my comment was meant somewhat tongue-in-cheek. But still ...

Well said post.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

I have to apologize to Saint Jonathan of Vaughters, Conti yesterday proved he was not lying after all. I think it is great that in this day of clean cycling former dopers can be just as good without dope than with, it is all in the head baby.

Brain powerrrrrr!