Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Mild hysteria at best, and neither on topic or particularly relevant to the thread topic which ironically is in itself loaded by being based on an assumption and conjecture. The only thing being resolved is the degree of partisanship existing here, which is unfortunate, because progress is clearly hampered by that partisanship feeding hysteria by focussing on the wrong issues.

Great way to get your a$$ saved, not buying it.

Bjarne and Dirty, a good combo. Both love the Tour.

 

[Le Baroudeur]

Great way to get your a$$ saved, not buying it.

**** saved? Sorry to burst your bubble but this isn't a 'partisan ****ing contest' for everyone you know. Thanks for the contribution and 'The Daily Gloat'.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

**** saved? Sorry to burst your bubble but this isn't a 'partisan ****ing contest' for everyone you know. Thanks for the contribution and 'The Daily Gloat'.

So you agree, Bert and [bj]Arnie are a match made in heaven.

Thanks.

 

[Le Baroudeur]

So you agree, Bert and [bj]Arnie are a match made in heaven.

Thanks.

I'm detecting comprehension issues on your part.

 

[Mr. McQ]

Of course the Spaniard will be doping

 

[Escarabajo]

Oh dear!

I feel like US Postal 2.0.

If you have a late resurgence you have to find and excuse for it. It is obvious. It is up to you whether you want to believe it or not. They always have one because they have to explain to the media why they sucked when younger. Why they hung on to cars to make it to the top of climbs and to the end of the stage without being disqualified.

Power numbers nowadays is not much proof of nothing. Now everyone go under the maximum power outputs. Maybe because of lower doping dosages. But also you can have a guy like Froome that used to have a maximum power output range of 5.2-5.5 w/kg. Then going to 5.7-6.0 w/kg with doping will not ring the power meter alarm.

BTW, Froome was even under control last year when attacking. If he had truly been unleashed you would not be saying what you are saying now. He was about to go crazy in the mountains when dropping Wiggins. Maybe we could have seen those crazy Verbier numbers again.

I love my predictions. He was unleashed. Stupid Froome!! Wiggins must be laughing his a$$ off.

 

[Cookster15]

I was waiting for this thread to restart. Contador actually looked no better today than the 2011 TDF on the Galibier. Actually today he looked worse than that day when he could at least blame Giro fatigue + crashes.

 

[Maxiton]

Yep, this is a bad year for Spanish beef. Just isn't what it used to be.

Murdoch and his money get a pass while everyone else is held to account. Especially those who stand to earn a lifetime ban if caught.

 

[Parrulo]

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=63793

Contador finally admits his form is ****ty and says he barely is a podium candidate.

So. . .

Is he 100% clean in a clean field? I doubt it

Is he 100% clean in a doped field? I doubt it

Is it somewhere in between? Probably.

What i think its strange is that post positive he was still super strong at the giro and even at the tour. And post suspension he was still super strong considering he had been out of competition for over 1 year. In fact he was probably stronger than he currently is . . .

What changed during the off season?

Could some natural causes for bad shape also be involved?

p.s. To make it clear the more i read it the more ambiguous the article seems to be. He could either be saying what i interpreted or he could be saying that at the moment the race hasn't been decided (therefore the podium being fictional) and that the podium is something secondary, meaning the win is the only thing that matters. . .

Oh well . . . Hrotha, Libertine?

 

[Tom T.]

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=63793

Contador finally admits his form is ****ty and says he barely is a podium candidate.

So. . .

Is he 100% clean in a clean field? I doubt it

Is he 100% clean in a doped field? I doubt it

Is it somewhere in between? Probably.

What i think its strange is that post positive he was still super strong at the giro and even at the tour. And post suspension he was still super strong considering he had been out of competition for over 1 year. In fact he was probably stronger than he currently is . . .

What changed during the off season?

Could some natural causes for bad shape also be involved?

p.s. To make it clear the more i read it the more ambiguous the article seems to be. He could either be saying what i interpreted or he could be saying that at the moment the race hasn't been decided (therefore the podium being fictional) and that the podium is something secondary, meaning the win is the only thing that matters. . .

Oh well . . . Hrotha, Libertine?

I'd guess he's facing what everyone else is......Sky is onto something bigger and better.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I'd guess he's facing what everyone else is......Sky is onto something bigger and better.

What sky are or aren't on doesn't change the fact that Alberto has been performing below his best level for a while now. Today I saw him grimacing a lot. On a flat stage! He is getting worse and worse.

 

[roundabout]

It's really unlike Contador to talk himself down.

 

[LaFlorecita]

He used to do it a lot actually and he always ended up winning this year he's been talking himself up a lot... and now down. I don't know, think he's given up on this year already.

 

[del1962]

He could be bluffing or more likely the illness he had earlier in they year may have effected his training adversely,

 

[Benotti69]

I'd guess he's facing what everyone else is......Sky is onto something bigger and better.

Yep, UCI have decided Sky are going to win the TdF.

 

[GreasyMonkey]

He could be bluffing or more likely the illness he had earlier in they year may have effected his training adversely,

His suffering from allergies is well documented, and for myself as an allergy sufferer living in the Sierra north of Madrid (where Alberto trains a fair bit), this year (Feb - July) has been the allergy season from HELL.... there is simply no other way to describe it.

I am not surprised at all that his form is off from it's usual levels, dope or otherwise - if you suffer from pollen allergy the last place you want to be is Madrid province this year - simply going outside can be tough, trying to train at any decent level has been impossible for many people here this spring/summer.

 

[roundabout]

Didn't he move to Lugano?

 

[Tom T.]

Yep, UCI have decided Sky are going to win the TdF.

I didn't say anything about the UCI.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Didn't he move to Lugano?

He did.

......

 

[Tom T.]

What sky are or aren't on doesn't change the fact that Alberto has been performing below his best level for a while now. Today I saw him grimacing a lot. On a flat stage! He is getting worse and worse.

He's either riding clean or being incredibly careful so as not to get busted again, and not getting much benefit as a result.

 

[B_Ugli]

He's either riding clean or being incredibly careful so as not to get busted again, and not getting much benefit as a result.

I think the latter is true. There were some rumblings that he has been target tested in the run up (interpret that as you will). He has got to have it in the back of his head that his samples may end up in the Cologne Lab where they seem to be able to find a needle in a haystack these days.

He does seem to be unbeatable in Spain and Italy though as does Purito -cant think why that could be?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I think the latter is true. There were some rumblings that he has been target tested in the run up (interpret that as you will). He has got to have it in the back of his head that his samples may end up in the Cologne Lab where they seem to be able to find a needle in a haystack these days.

He does seem to be unbeatable in Spain and Italy though as does Purito -cant think why that could be?

Interesting. Do you have a source for that?

 

[sniper]

I think the latter is true. There were some rumblings that he has been target tested in the run up (interpret that as you will). He has got to have it in the back of his head that his samples may end up in the Cologne Lab where they seem to be able to find a needle in a haystack these days.

He does seem to be unbeatable in Spain and Italy though as does Purito -cant think why that could be?

interesting indeed.
to be sure, posters here have speculated plenty of times about how uci/aso might influence results by leaking rumors about target testing. surely doesn't seem unreal to me, and the question should indeed be whether froome/sky are also target tested and if not, why the heck not.

 

[jilbiker]

Contador's and the final week

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...-warns-the-Tour-is-an-unpredictable-race.aspx

Anyone know why Contador is still confident about this last week? Despite almost 4 minutes down? Valverde has already resigned himself to podium place but Contador hammers on about this last week. Does he have some special juice? Is he going to take a full BB instead of micro-dose? Here is a conspiracy theory, may be he has a packet of the magic British/Sky juice and he is keeping it for the last week?....

Whatever it is it must be good stuff

 

[chrisb]

for the love of god somebody give Alberto a blood bag full to the gills with red blood cells.

This tour is developing into a 3 week sportif, just like last years