Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[goggalor]

I don't get it.

So, beating Geschke by six seconds is suspicious these days?

lol

 

[proffate]

Why should one ignore Rujanito?

I dunno, cause he put massive time into everyone in the world minus one little doper who clung to his wheel... and Rujano's presence doesn't really diminish Contador's accomplishment much in the context of the original statement, which was how massive the gap he was going to put into his gc rivals would be.

 

[42x16ss]

I don't get it.

Obviously he's not in on the secret yet.

Ryder and Talansky have the Giro and the Tour coming up and Martin has a L-B-L title to defend... I'd be nervous too.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

I can't see anyone saying Contador is definitely clean here. Just because we're not throwing out numbers doesn't mean there's no noise.

I think he is clean. Why? Because everyone is forgetting he is one of the best cyclists in the world. The Clinic is full of its usual cynicism and innuendo, and that is OK and Contador has earned this reputation among the skeptics.

But we are all forgetting, he is damn good.

 

[del1962]

AC has had Steve DeJongue as his personnel trainer over the winter apparntly.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I think he is clean. Why? Because everyone is forgetting he is one of the best cyclists in the world. The Clinic is full of its usual cynicism and innuendo, and that is OK and Contador has earned this reputation among the skeptics.

But we are all forgetting, he is damn good.

Nobody knows how good Contador really is. He has doped his entire career.

 

[neineinei]

AC has had Steve DeJongue as his personnel trainer over the winter apparntly.

Steven de Jongh, Sky reject. I can't get my head around how Servais Kanven still is at Sky. He was after all fleeing the 1998 TdF with de Jongh and the rest of TMV, but not until after he'd partisipated in a couple of sit downs.

 

[del1962]

Steven de Jongh, Sky reject. I can't get my head around how Servais Kanven still is at Sky. He was after all fleeing the 1998 TdF with de Jongh and the rest of TMV, but not until after he'd partisipated in a couple of sit downs.

I guess because he didnt come clean like de Jongh when ZTP was introduced.

 

[MartinGT]

So, in July Bertie smokes the Dawg.

I wonder what the Skybot Fanbois reaction will be....

 

[bigcog]

So, in July Bertie smokes the Dawg.

I wonder what the Skybot Fanbois reaction will be....

If that happens I wonder if Contadope will have to deal with the drug questions from the press, or will he be deemed above such talk despite being a proven dope fiend ?

 

[The Hitch]

If that happens I wonder if Contadope will have to deal with the drug questions from the press, or will he be deemed above such talk despite being a proven dope fiend ?

wtf are you talking about

 

[MartinGT]

If that happens I wonder if Contadope will have to deal with the drug questions from the press, or will he be deemed above such talk despite being a proven dope fiend ?

 

[King Boonen]

wtf are you talking about

The implication is that Sky are given a hard time by all and sundry while others are given a free ride or just not asked.

But we all know why that is and it's not a bias against Sky.

 

[zigmeister]

I figured that Contador and the Schlecks would eventually go back to their doping ways, just be more cautious about it. They were just going to lay low for a year or two, wait it out, hope their team, if they aren't involved in the doping that is, wouldn't terminate their contracts, then come back new and improved.

See Contador and Frank are both doing very well in the TA.

 

[del1962]

I figured that Contador and the Schlecks would eventually go back to their doping ways, just be more cautious about it. They were just going to lay low for a year or two, wait it out, hope their team, if they aren't involved in the doping that is, wouldn't terminate their contracts, then come back new and improved.

See Contador and Frank are both doing very well in the TA.

Frank was in PN, not exacltly seting the world alight, but performing better than his sibling

 

[MartinGT]

Bertie is doing well because he now has his own pilliow and cools down.

 

[RownhamHill]

I figured that Contador and the Schlecks would eventually go back to their doping ways, just be more cautious about it. They were just going to lay low for a year or two, wait it out, hope their team, if they aren't involved in the doping that is, wouldn't terminate their contracts, then come back new and improved.

See Contador and Frank are both doing very well in the TA.

So what, let me get this straight, Contador was doping throughout 2011 when he was appealing a doping infraction (and any further offence would have meant an 8 year/lifetime ban), doped when he came back to win the Vuelta, stopped doping last year because he was worried about a further ban, before starting to dope again this year? Meanwhile Andy, under no more suspicion than any other 'clean' rider (no drugs offences or accusations to deal with), decided to lay low while his old closest rival was banned/underperforming, just 'because', while his brother Frank decided not to lay low at all and has returned from his ban with a full on business as usual programme?

FFS. Why would any of them do that? What possible reason would they have for waiting a year or two (or not at all in Frank Schleck's case as he was banned last year) before starting to dope again?

Honestly I get it why everyone is suspicious about top-level cyclists, whether that's Sky or Bertie or whatever. And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they really are all doping.

But really, can't people come up with a bit more panache in their accusations? Things that don't just revolve around 'rider x won today, ergo rider x is doping'. You do understand that if you could absolutely guarantee everyone was clean, one of the riders would still be the strongest, and every now and then you'd get a day like yesterday?

 

[Mellow Velo]

So, in July Bertie smokes the Dawg.

I wonder what the Skybot Fanbois reaction will be....

I wonder what the ASO's reaction will be....
Regardless of what gets posted here, in terms of doping, they have enjoyed 3 relatively benign years.
Not sure they will be overly enthusiastic, if old doper Bertie attacks 3 cols out and the bunch don't see him again, for dust.

Would be good entertainment for the tv enthusiast, though.
Things are looking up, in the competitive respect and I don't mean the arms race.

 

[RownhamHill]

I don't even have to read the results of races on the front page of CN, to know who is performing well in races. The clinic screeching puts the offending rider at the top of the page!

I thought Cookson was gonna clean this all up?

I didn't realise that Cookson was one of the new CN mods. . .

 

[deviant]

Things that don't just revolve around 'rider x won today, ergo rider x is doping'. You do understand that if you could absolutely guarantee everyone was clean, one of the riders would still be the strongest, and every now and then you'd get a day like yesterday?

Very much this.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Nobody knows how good Contador really is. He has doped his entire career.

You know that for a fact or just because he is good and Spanish? I recognize that he is smack in the middle of one of the most rampant periods of doping. Do we infer he always doped because of that? If so then I suppose your opinion is valid. Unless it is omerta, we don't have the benefit of other riders outing him like they did Lance.

 

[EnacheV]

You know that for a fact or just because he is good and Spanish?

I would take you seriously but also i read this kind of stuff from you

I don't even pay attention to the GC anymore. Who cares! There is absolutely no credibility in pro cycling.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Nobody knows how good Contador really is. He has doped his entire career.

I think he was cleans before 2005 perhaps even until 2007

 

[RobbieCanuck]

I would take you seriously but also i read this kind of stuff from you

Context, context and more context. If you are going to quote a previous quote please put it in context. That post was not about Contador specifically but the state of cycling in general.

 

[The Hitch]

I wonder what the ASO's reaction will be....
Regardless of what gets posted here, in terms of doping, they have enjoyed 3 relatively benign years.
Not sure they will be overly enthusiastic, if old doper Bertie attacks 3 cols out and the bunch don't see him again, for dust.

Would be good entertainment for the tv enthusiast, though.
Things are looking up, in the competitive respect and I don't mean the arms race.

Last year the aso did a " your favourite x of the tdf" video. They asked pinot Gilbert cav Rolland Evans and 1 or 2 others questions like -your favourite memory of the tour, your first experience, best winner etc etc. Then they got to - your favourite celebration. Up pops contador and does the pistol celebration. He then answers questions with the others for the rest of the video.

Aso don't seem to have a problem with contador