Will Nibali ever win the Tour?

[Eshnar]

I don't get the feeling he really wants it.

What do you mean?

 

[Jason_Mercier]

Let's see

This year Contador, Froome...
Next year Contador, Froome, Wiggins, probably Van Garderen, Pinot, Quintana, Talansky..
2015 Contador, Froome, Wiggins, probably Van Garderen, Pinot, Quintana, Talansky, Kelderman, Dombrowski, Chaves...

NO WAY. A PODIUM one more time probably.

 

[myrideissteelerthanyours]

no hes a pretender not a contender

 

[Parrulo]

despite voting no on the win i love how people continue to underrate nibali saying he will be lucky if he podiums again mentioning TJVG as some1 with more GT potential then him . . .

this reminds me of 2010 when we were all sure kreuziguer and gesink had 10 times the talent nibali had

 

[greenedge]

I reckon he had his best chance last year.

Without Contador and Andy yes, but the route did not suit him at all.

I think Gesink has a lot of talent.

 

[Forunculo]

Unfortunately no. Maybe Astana puts a great team behind him as a GC captain and it's a status well deserved, but he lacks some engine/endurance in 3 weeks stage races. And descents are the only discipline where he is clearly a superior rider.

However I hope he can defeat Wiggo in Italy.

 

[the asian]

Nibali will definitely win the Giro.

I just don't see him joining the legends by winning all 3 GTs

 

[Jason_Mercier]

despite voting no on the win i love how people continue to underrate nibali saying he will be lucky if he podiums again mentioning TJVG as some1 with more GT potential then him . . .

this reminds me of 2010 when we were all sure kreuziguer and gesink had 10 times the talent nibali had

Tejay Van Garderen has much more talent/GT potential than Nibali. Nibali is a rider who has improved a lot year by year. And today is a great rider. But with the age of TVG Vincenzo was nobody in comparison with the american. What did Nibali with 23/24 years? At this age Van Garderen is the fifth of a Tour de France, best young rider and one of the five bests GT riders in the TT. I am not saying VG will **** Nibali in a couple of years, we dont now yet. But the guy has more potential than the sicilian.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Yes if it is constant descent - Nibali wins hands down!

In any case he is such a joy to watch even when he comes 2nd or 3rd
coz he shows he's trying hard. Lovable shark!

 

[Alphabet]

I think he can, but that's probably just blind fanboyism on my part .

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Yes, he will because even an oldish brit can do it

 

[gruppeto993]

Let's see

This year Contador, Froome...
Next year Contador, Froome, Wiggins, probably Van Garderen, Pinot, Quintana, Talansky..
2015 Contador, Froome, Wiggins, probably Van Garderen, Pinot, Quintana, Talansky, Kelderman, Dombrowski, Chaves...

NO WAY. A PODIUM one more time probably.

I love the way you completely rule out andy schleck. Whats wrong with you?! You mention guys like pinot and quintana who are clearly big talents when it comes to grand tours but you completely rule out andy who has come second in 4 grand tours? I am no fan of his attitude tp racing but he is the second best climber there is after contador.

 

[airstream]

If Sastre, Evans & Wiggo were able to win the Tour, then why can't Nibali win it as well? All of them entirely underestimated & yet they did it during their early thirties, so Vincenzo has the years to develop further his abilities & somehow he- like the ones I mentioned-finds himself in a situation where he can win it. It'd be unwise to count him out.

All of them had much more prerequisites to become a Tour winner than current Nibali

Let's expect top-10 from Quintana at least and a cascade of resultative attacks from Pinot in order to build such ambitious plans for them.

 

[theyoungest]

Tejay Van Garderen has much more talent/GT potential than Nibali. Nibali is a rider who has improved a lot year by year. And today is a great rider. But with the age of TVG Vincenzo was nobody in comparison with the american. What did Nibali with 23/24 years? At this age Van Garderen is the fifth of a Tour de France, best young rider and one of the five bests GT riders in the TT. I am not saying VG will **** Nibali in a couple of years, we dont now yet. But the guy has more potential than the sicilian.

Let's wait before Tejay gets more results than 5th in the Tour. Gesink got 5th in the Tour at that age as well, I don't think anyone considers him a potential Tour winner either.

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

It is unlikely but not impossible.

It depends on the field and the amount of problems the other contenders have during the race.

It would probably need a route with not a huge amount of TTing, and some big stages finishing in descents or small climbs after long descents.

He is highly unlikely to be either the best climber or the best TTer in the race so it is hard for him to gain time over rivals except descents.

 

[Miburo]

Let's wait before Tejay gets more results than 5th in the Tour. Gesink got 5th in the Tour at that age as well, I don't think anyone considers him a potential Tour winner either.

What about the dutch people? They gave up that dream?

 

[Jason_Mercier]

Let's wait before Tejay gets more results than 5th in the Tour. Gesink got 5th in the Tour at that age as well, I don't think anyone considers him a potential Tour winner either.

Gesink did 5th but never was one of the three bests riders in his terrain. And TVG yes. We saw it in Besançon, the best gt rider in the TT only after Wiggins and Froome.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Yes, he will win it within the next 5 years.

 

[Jason_Mercier]

I love the way you completely rule out andy schleck. Whats wrong with you?! You mention guys like pinot and quintana who are clearly big talents when it comes to grand tours but you completely rule out andy who has come second in 4 grand tours? I am no fan of his attitude tp racing but he WAS the second best climber there is after contador.

Let's wait and see if he recover his level. But today Andy is nothing. Let's see in the Mediterranean Tour. If he doesnt ride well here i fear the worst.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

No, and I don't think he'll win another GT anymore, either.

 

[woodenswan]

Let's see in the Mediterranean Tour. If he doesnt ride well here i fear the worst.

the what?!

watch out! it's the Mediterraneen Tour or bust for Andy!

D:

 

[Forunculo]

Let's wait and see if he recover his level. But today Andy is nothing. Let's see in the Mediterranean Tour. If he doesnt ride well here i fear the worst.

Then we can be sure he is over

i give him the doubt till the classics. Not to win but top 10-15 being there as an important piece of the race. Then we can expect something for 2014

 

[Jason_Mercier]

the what?!

watch out! it's the Mediterraneen Tour or bust for Andy!

D:

Laugh. If Andy doesnt respond in this months then will come the tears

 

[Parrulo]

Gesink did 5th but never was one of the three bests riders in his terrain. And TVG yes. We saw it in Besançon, the best gt rider in the TT only after Wiggins and Froome.

TJVG is a good time trialist. . . and what? this years course was perfect for him, over 100km of itt and the lightest mountains possible around france, if the course has a couple of proper mountains he is out of the fight for the podium right away. quintana and pinot and 100 times the GT talents TJVG is imo.


btw at 23 nibali finished top 20 in both the giro(11th) and the tour(18th) while being a domestique and at 24 he finished 7th in the tour but closer in time to the second overall then TJVG was to the third overall this year.

and when TJVG finishes a GT on the podium and/or wins another next year like nibali did at 25, you can come and say he is more talented.

 

[airstream]

TJVG is a good time trialist. . . and what? this years course was perfect for him, over 100km of itt and the lightest mountains possible around france, if the course has a couple of proper mountains he is out of the fight for the podium right away. quintana and pinot and 100 times the GT talents TJVG is imo.

The Tour makes very high TT requirements traditionally. Either one is a genial climber or a brilliant all-rounde who can limit his mountain losses in TT. Nibali doesn't look like any of these guys so far.