World Championships Innsbruck 2018

[YavorD]

Man, Tyrol/Innsbruck is really beautiful. A place to visit..
On topic : Bjerg is amazing just crushing the opposition 2nd year in a row. Looks like a good talent.

 

[Lexman]

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According to De Cauwer, Van Moer only recently started doing ITT's so his progression may not be so strange in that regard. Very good race, he'll be delighted with silver.

Bjerg boss.

Lotto Soudal should sign Van Moer as pro rider so he can train and learn from Campenaerts

congrats to Bjerg

 

[Samamba]

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According to De Cauwer, Van Moer only recently started doing ITT's so his progression may not be so strange in that regard. Very good race, he'll be delighted with silver.

Bjerg boss.

Maybe, but he already showed a lot of TT potential last year with a 2nd place (same time as Leysen who came 1st) at the nationals beating guys like Cras en Philipsen. He also won a Belgian "test TT" last year if I remember correctly.

 

[Red Rick]

Does Bjerg have a pro contract for next year?

 

[yaco]

Strange that Stannard is not riding the ITT at either the junior or under 23 level. Reckon he could have come second if he rode the under 23's and would have been hard to beat at the under 20's.

 

[DNP-Old]

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Does Bjerg have a pro contract for next year?

With Axeon, yes.

 

[Red Rick]

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Does Bjerg have a pro contract for next year?

With Axeon, yes.

Do they ride any bigger races? I'm not really up to speed on the pro conti scene.

Anyway, kid is super young. Big prospects for classics as well?

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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Does Bjerg have a pro contract for next year?

With Axeon, yes.

Do they ride any bigger races? I'm not really up to speed on the pro conti scene.

Anyway, kid is super young. Big prospects for classics as well?

Tour of California is the only WT event. Bjerg was 6th in the ITT this year.

Other than that they ride a lot of the american .1 and .HC stage races in late summer as well as some of the smaller belgian classics in spring and september

 

[Valv.Piti]

Denmark really has a nice generation going for them. No really good stage racers, but a lot of classics/TT-riders are coming.

 

[Red Rick]

Is it normal that the U23 and juniors ride the exact same ITT?

 

[DNP-Old]

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Is it normal that the U23 and juniors ride the exact same ITT?

It's completely random. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Personally, I love it. Now we get to see how well Evenepoel would do against Bjerg (to some extent).

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

At the Euros it was the same as well IIRC. At the Belgian nationals it was also the same course.
Evenepoel was faster at the nationals than the fastest U23 (Weemaes), but at the Euros, Affini rode faster (the only U23 to do so) than Evenepoel. In both cases he was 1m30 and 2m faster than Van Moer

 

[Pantani_lives]

When I look at the start list for Sunday I see a lot of riders who haven't shown much this year, but who fall into the category: you never know, if he has a good day... E.g. Spilak, M. Frank, Boasson Hagen... There's always one rider who has a good WCh after a bad season. On the other hand I'm surprised that Denifl isn't on the list. What happened to him? Last year he won a Vuelta stage (ahead of Contador) on a comparable course.

 

[samhocking]

Is it normal that the U23 and juniors ride the exact same ITT?

It's completely random. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Personally, I love it. Now we get to see how well Evenepoel would do against Bjerg (to some extent).

Same course, but Juniors are on restricted gears of course, so 7.93m / 52x14t and therefore not directly comparable.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Same course, but Juniors are on restricted gears of course, so 7.93m / 52x14t and therefore not directly comparable.

Right. I often forget this. Not directly comparable, but if a junior has a better or same time as a U23, you can conclude that he was stronger.

On this course, there seemed to be quite a few sections where grinding a bigger gear could gain you some time though. So, the juniors might not come close enough to compare.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Same course, but Juniors are on restricted gears of course, so 7.93m / 52x14t and therefore not directly comparable.

Right. I often forget this. Not directly comparable, but if a junior has a better or same time as a U23, you can conclude that he was stronger.

On this course, there seemed to be quite a few sections where grinding a bigger gear could gain you some time though. So, the juniors might not come close enough to compare.

With certainty you can say that he rode up the hills faster because he was stronger, but then again maybe the juniors will be more fresh for the hills, because they cannot step on the pedals when it's slightly downhill. It's difficult to compare, but I agree that having heavier gears will always be an advantage on a course like this. Question is how much

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

With certainty you can say that he rode up the hills faster because he was stronger, but then again maybe the juniors will be more fresh for the hills, because they cannot step on the pedals when it's slightly downhill. It's difficult to compare, but I agree that having heavier gears will always be an advantage on a course like this. Question is how much

U23 can shift down, right? They have the choice to grind a bigger gear, but they aren't obligated to. Juniors can't shift higher if they wanted to. Or am i missing something? These guys aren't riding fixed gears, are they?

 

[Red Rick]

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Is it normal that the U23 and juniors ride the exact same ITT?

It's completely random. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Personally, I love it. Now we get to see how well Evenepoel would do against Bjerg (to some extent).

It would make sense if it were on the same day.

 

[Red Rick]

With certainty you can say that he rode up the hills faster because he was stronger, but then again maybe the juniors will be more fresh for the hills, because they cannot step on the pedals when it's slightly downhill. It's difficult to compare, but I agree that having heavier gears will always be an advantage on a course like this. Question is how much

U23 can shift down, right? They have the choice to grind a bigger gear, but they aren't obligated to. Juniors can't shift higher if they wanted to. Or am i missing something? These guys aren't riding fixed gears, are they?

I think there's an upper limit to the biggest gear they can ride

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I think there's an upper limit to the biggest gear they can ride

Yes, that's what i meant, juniors can't ride as big a gear as the U23, but the there is nothing stopping the U23 of riding a smaller gear. Hence what i meant, that when comparing times, the juniors are always at a disadvantage, since they can't grind the big gears on sections where it would be beneficial.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Anyway. 1-2-3-4 for Dutch women?

Personally I don't believe much in Brand. And someone might become in between the others. So I'm guessing 1-2-5-7

 

[Lexman]

what are Dumoulins chances, is he back on track for the ITT ?

 

[Red Rick]

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what are Dumoulins chances, is he back on track for the ITT ?

He didn't know his form going into the TTT, but said he felt good.

So Imma go with he's good and not amazeballs like last year.

 

[Lexman]

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what are Dumoulins chances, is he back on track for the ITT ?

He didn't know his form going into the TTT, but said he felt good.

So Imma go with he's good and not amazeballs like last year.

top 5, podium?

 

[Lexman]

what might Schachmann be able to do in the ITT?