World Championships Innsbruck 2018

[Climbing]

so only 7? Absolute carnage then, very very hard to control.
Decisive moves way before last 3 km climb for sure.
Nibali points out about very little respite as well, just up and down.
We'll see, looks brutal.

Edit: en passant Nibali cited some names from different nation, Chaves Uran, Valverde Izaguirre's brothers (ofc cause they are in TBM), Bardet Pinot, Yates brots, etc.)

 

[Rollthedice]

Use that super steep climb earlier so you still have something like two more regular climbs after it and you have a superb route with action from far out almost guaranteed. Now you instead most likely have a big group coming to that murito where the big stars will battle it out. Nibali will probably be the one most angry about this decision since for him this murito destroys an otherwise perfect route. I really would have had a hard time seeing anyone else winning there, but now I'm not so sure. He has shown before that he is very strong on climbs that don't suit him if the race before has been hard enough, but 28%? That might be too much for him.

Nibali will not wait for the murito, whatever it takes. I don't expect more than 20-30 riders tackling the last long lap of the circuit.

 

[Koronin]

So in other words it's no longer nearly as important to be one of the top 5 nations. Being in the top 10 will be a LOT easier.

 

[Red Rick]

Use that super steep climb earlier so you still have something like two more regular climbs after it and you have a superb route with action from far out almost guaranteed. Now you instead most likely have a big group coming to that murito where the big stars will battle it out. Nibali will probably be the one most angry about this decision since for him this murito destroys an otherwise perfect route. I really would have had a hard time seeing anyone else winning there, but now I'm not so sure. He has shown before that he is very strong on climbs that don't suit him if the race before has been hard enough, but 28%? That might be too much for him.

Nibali will not wait for the murito, whatever it takes. I don't expect more than 20-30 riders tackling the last long lap of the circuit.

Not to mention most of them won't have anything left at that point.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Who are seriously considering going to Austria this autumn? I know I am.

 

[Koronin]

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so only 7? Absolute carnage then, very very hard to control.
Decisive moves way before last 3 km climb for sure.
Nibali points out about very little respite as well, just up and down.
We'll see, looks brutal.

Edit: en passant Nibali cited some names from different nation, Chaves Uran, Valverde Izaguirre's brothers (ofc cause they are in TBM), Bardet Pinot, Yates brots, etc.)

The Spanish national coach won't name riders for the Worlds until during la Vuelta most likely. Although Valverde is guarenteed to be on the team and the sole leader of the team. Most people expect at least if not both of the Izagirre brothers and Soler as well. Most likely Erviti.

 

[Climbing]

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so only 7? Absolute carnage then, very very hard to control.
Decisive moves way before last 3 km climb for sure.
Nibali points out about very little respite as well, just up and down.
We'll see, looks brutal.

Edit: en passant Nibali cited some names from different nation, Chaves Uran, Valverde Izaguirre's brothers (ofc cause they are in TBM), Bardet Pinot, Yates brots, etc.)

The Spanish national coach won't name riders for the Worlds until during la Vuelta most likely. Although Valverde is guarenteed to be on the team and the sole leader of the team. Most people expect at least if not both of the Izagirre brothers and Soler as well. Most likely Erviti.

I think that is true for most teams, after all you need good form at the right moment.
Even more so in such an harsh course.

 

[Koronin]

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so only 7? Absolute carnage then, very very hard to control.
Decisive moves way before last 3 km climb for sure.
Nibali points out about very little respite as well, just up and down.
We'll see, looks brutal.

Edit: en passant Nibali cited some names from different nation, Chaves Uran, Valverde Izaguirre's brothers (ofc cause they are in TBM), Bardet Pinot, Yates brots, etc.)

The Spanish national coach won't name riders for the Worlds until during la Vuelta most likely. Although Valverde is guarenteed to be on the team and the sole leader of the team. Most people expect at least if not both of the Izagirre brothers and Soler as well. Most likely Erviti.

I think that is true for most teams, after all you need good form at the right moment.
Even more so in such an harsh course.

Very true. I'd be shocked if there are many announcements made before la Vuelta. One interesting thing is that the Spanish National Coach for the most part only takes riders who participate in la Vuelta to the Worlds. Part of why Landa was so instant on racing the Tour/Vuelta this year. Something about Valverde and Erviti are the only two riders who can skip la Vuelta and still get on the National team.

 

[Red Rick]

How's the timing between the Tour and Vuelta and between the Vuelta and Worlds anyway?

 

[Climbing]

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How's the timing between the Tour and Vuelta and between the Vuelta and Worlds anyway?

Let's check UCI calendar:

- TdF 07-29 Jul 18
- Vuelta 25 Aug 18 - 16 Sep 18
- Worlds 30 Sep

 

[Sestriere]

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Who are seriously considering going to Austria this autumn? I know I am.

No lectures at that time so nothing holding me back. I'm pretty sure I'll be there.

 

[46&twoWheels]

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Who are seriously considering going to Austria this autumn? I know I am.

spending the end of september in Innsbruck should be great. Perfect temperature for a bike race and generally for visiting the city with less tourists. Of course weather is less predictable!
I'm already spending 3 days in Innsbruck in July. Innsbruck during the summer is generally very warm like a mediterranean town, probably because the heat and humidity are trapped in the valley between the mountains,not much wind also. I'm not sure. The main difference with a med. town is the rain. Quite rainy in Innsbruck in July and August

but the end of september, first signs of the autumn, simply perfect! I will think about it.

 

[Gigs_98]

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Who are seriously considering going to Austria this autumn? I know I am.

I live in the east of Ausrtria so quite far away from Innsbruck but still I really really want to go there. I'm a bit sad though that the race doesn't take place one week earlier since I'll have my first day in university the day after the race

 

[Koronin]

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Who are seriously considering going to Austria this autumn? I know I am.

I wish. Unfortunately not only don't I own a passport, I can't afford it either.

For those going enjoy it.

 

[May0maniac]

I'll be there for sure, a friend of mine lives at the start of the final climb of the RR, maybe I'll watch the race there (or on the Igls climb).

 

[Max Rockatansky]

There is going to be a lot of crying, when Froomey wins this solo. :lol:

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I'll be there for sure, a friend of mine lives at the start of the final climb of the RR, maybe I'll watch the race there (or on the Igls climb).

Maybe Im paying you a little visit if money and other stuff allows! This will be a great show.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Who are seriously considering going to Austria this autumn? I know I am.

I'd love to go, but I'll wait until Yorkshire next year.

 

[46&twoWheels]

There is going to be a lot of crying, when Froomey wins this solo. :lol:

he's obviously the strongest on the mountains but I'm questioning the stability of the "British train" when going "up and down,up and down".Excuse me for the vulgarity . If Froome is isolated the race will be open

 

[Rollthedice]

There is going to be a lot of crying, when Froomey wins this solo. :lol:

he's obviously the strongest on the mountains but I'm questioning the stability of the "British train" when going "up and down,up and down".Excuse me for the vulgarity . If Froome is isolated the race will be open

Froome will most likely be on a forced holiday by that time and anyway he was never ever a factor in one day races.

 

[46&twoWheels]

There is going to be a lot of crying, when Froomey wins this solo. :lol:

he's obviously the strongest on the mountains but I'm questioning the stability of the "British train" when going "up and down,up and down".Excuse me for the vulgarity . If Froome is isolated the race will be open

Froome will most likely be on a forced holiday by that time and anyway he was never ever a factor in one day races.

because he's programmed to function only until early september or because...olo olo?

if he will ever win a one-day race Innsbruck might be his chance. It will be interesting to see the betting odds on him before the race.

I don't even know what to make of Sagan for Innsbruck, honestly

 

[Durden93]

There is going to be a lot of crying, when Froomey wins this solo. :lol:

Unfortunately for Froome his sky bot boys will be attacking him instead of guiding him into position. Good luck.

 

[Durden93]

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so only 7? Absolute carnage then, very very hard to control.
Decisive moves way before last 3 km climb for sure.
Nibali points out about very little respite as well, just up and down.
We'll see, looks brutal.

Edit: en passant Nibali cited some names from different nation, Chaves Uran, Valverde Izaguirre's brothers (ofc cause they are in TBM), Bardet Pinot, Yates brots, etc.)

There was no chance of this being a controlled race anyways. The climbing itself would be enough to rip this race apart but then you also have to take into account the fact that no team would be comfortable going head to head with Valverde or Alaphilippe.

 

[Koronin]

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so only 7? Absolute carnage then, very very hard to control.
Decisive moves way before last 3 km climb for sure.
Nibali points out about very little respite as well, just up and down.
We'll see, looks brutal.

Edit: en passant Nibali cited some names from different nation, Chaves Uran, Valverde Izaguirre's brothers (ofc cause they are in TBM), Bardet Pinot, Yates brots, etc.)

There was no chance of this being a controlled race anyways. The climbing itself would be enough to rip this race apart but then you also have to take into account the fact that no team would be comfortable going head to head with Valverde or Alaphilippe.

I don't think Alaphilippe is a good enough climber to be in the select group at the finale. Dan Martin might be IF he's on form.

 

[Red Rick]

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so only 7? Absolute carnage then, very very hard to control.
Decisive moves way before last 3 km climb for sure.
Nibali points out about very little respite as well, just up and down.
We'll see, looks brutal.

Edit: en passant Nibali cited some names from different nation, Chaves Uran, Valverde Izaguirre's brothers (ofc cause they are in TBM), Bardet Pinot, Yates brots, etc.)

There was no chance of this being a controlled race anyways. The climbing itself would be enough to rip this race apart but then you also have to take into account the fact that no team would be comfortable going head to head with Valverde or Alaphilippe.

Head to head where? On the final climb? I don't really see why not if it's necessary.