World Championships Innsbruck 2018

[Broccolidwarf]

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Does Bjerg have a pro contract for next year?

With Axeon, yes.

Do they ride any bigger races? I'm not really up to speed on the pro conti scene.

Anyway, kid is super young. Big prospects for classics as well?

I learned today, that he started cycling at 15 - and remember he won the U23 TT at age 18, last year (and can ride for this title the next 3 years).

So, he is incredible on the TT bike, but still a relative novice in road races.

Pro-conti is a good level for him the next couple of years, to learn the ropes of road racing.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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what are Dumoulins chances, is he back on track for the ITT ?

He didn't know his form going into the TTT, but said he felt good.

So Imma go with he's good and not amazeballs like last year.

top 5, podium?

With this course I find it hard not to see him win. I think he'd have to be on a pretty average day to lose.

And before people start shouting Dennis. He never convinced in TT's longer than 40 minutes and certainly not with such a climb in it. The course just shouts Dumoulin. But who knows..

Even a Richmond scenario with both Dumo and Dennis not podium is possible, worlds ITT is often weird

 

[Red Rick]

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what are Dumoulins chances, is he back on track for the ITT ?

He didn't know his form going into the TTT, but said he felt good.

So Imma go with he's good and not amazeballs like last year.

top 5, podium?

With this course I find it hard not to see him win. I think he'd have to be on a pretty average day to lose.

And before people start shouting Dennis. He never convinced in TT's longer than 40 minutes and certainly not with such a climb in it. The course just shouts Dumoulin. But who knows..

Even a Richmond scenario with both Dumo and Dennis not podium is possible, worlds ITT is often weird

Not sure if intended

Dennis' winning time in the Giro ITT was 40'00.

I'd be shocked if someone else than Dennis beat Dumoulin.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

40m flat course is perfect yeah. I'm not sure a 1h+ 52km hilly course with a 5km steep climb in it is

 

[Red Rick]

When do the juniors start tomorrow?

 

[tobydawq]

Re: Re:

what are Dumoulins chances, is he back on track for the ITT ?

He didn't know his form going into the TTT, but said he felt good.

So Imma go with he's good and not amazeballs like last year.

top 5, podium?

With this course I find it hard not to see him win. I think he'd have to be on a pretty average day to lose.

And before people start shouting Dennis. He never convinced in TT's longer than 40 minutes and certainly not with such a climb in it. The course just shouts Dumoulin. But who knows..

Even a Richmond scenario with both Dumo and Dennis not podium is possible, worlds ITT is often weird

Not sure if intended

Dennis' winning time in the Giro ITT was 40'00.

I'd be shocked if someone else than Dennis beat Dumoulin.

So, if he'd had been a second slower on the course, he would have proven to be good over more than 40 minutes?? (Here, I feel we miss a very confused emoticon struggling with wrapping its head around a paradox).

 

[RedheadDane]

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When do the juniors start tomorrow?

Around 10 am, I think.
That's when TV coverage starts here, and I'm pretty sure Denmark is the same time-zone as Austria.

 

[42x16ss]

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There are two non-brainers - Matthews is the replacement rider.

Nick Schultz
http://www.cicloweb.it/2018/09/23/laustralia-sceglie-schultz-come-sostituto-di-porte-ancora-delusione-per-matthews/

Come on - what is this ****? Matthews is even a better climber than Schultz. And yes, the chances are high that Matthews would have been dropped at some point but together with Sagan and van Avermaet he is probably the best climber of the Sprinters. He even finished Avenir in the top10. Did he **** the coaches daughter or wife?

Starting to think it might be a Vanendert situation.
A guy who doesn't get called up because he refuses to work for others.

Nope, Matthews said straight out he’s got little chance on this course and was hoping to help Porte have a shot. They could justify an in form O’Connor over Matthews on this course and maybe McCarthy, but that’s it.

Cycling Australia has been making very strange decisions recently. They didn’t want to take a full women’s team last year, they are only taking one woman to the ITT this year, despite qualifying two and Shara Gillow riding the road race anyway. They haven’t given the U23 men’s champ a chance to ride even though he’s one of the 2-3 best U23 climbers (they didn’t take him to L’Avenir either). Then there’s the BS with their track selections, and habitual screwing over of riders like Ben Dyball.

It’s no coincidence that some of Australia’s best riders ATM like Porte and O’Connor wanted little or nothing to do with CA and found their own path.

 

[Red Rick]

TT should be well over an hour, even with tailwind, although you could argue that the descent isn't much pedaling

 

[Derry]

Re:

40m flat course is perfect yeah. I'm not sure a 1h+ 52km hilly course with a 5km steep climb in it is

1 CANCELLARA Fabian Switzerland 350 300 45.343 1:12:15
2 DUMOULIN Tom Netherlands 250 220 44.856 0:47
3 FROOME Chris Great Britain 200 170 44.703 1:02
4 CASTROVIEJO Jonathan Spain 150 130 44.663 1:06
5 DENNIS Rohan Australia 125 100 44.622 1:10
6 BODNAR Maciej Poland 100 90 44.220 1:50
7 OLIVEIRA Nelson Portugal 85 80 44.121 2:00
8 IZAGIRRE Ion Spain 70 70 44.062 2:06
9 THOMAS Geraint Great Britain 60 60 43.758 2:37
10 ROGLIČ Primož Slovenia 50 50 43.729 2:4

The Olympics TT. Dennis lost a medal because of a bike change.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

there's a saying for that in dutch "1 zwaluw maakt nog geen zomer"

1 result does not confirm ***

 

[WKA311]

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Strange that Stannard is not riding the ITT at either the junior or under 23 level. Reckon he could have come second if he rode the under 23's and would have been hard to beat at the under 20's.

I don't see how Stannard could have become second today He isn't really known for his ITT is he? And there wasn't a punchy climb in this.

 

[Sestriere]

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40m flat course is perfect yeah. I'm not sure a 1h+ 52km hilly course with a 5km steep climb in it is

The hill is indeed difficult and in favour of Dumoulin. However, the rest of the course is almost completely flat and also very untechnical with only a few roundabouts and some right hand turns. Even he descent of Gnadenwald is very straightforward. This is very different to Bergen for example, where also the part before the final climb was hilly and pretty technical. This resulted in an avg. speed of just 41.6 km/h. Considering this, I would definitely say the courde suits Dennis a lot better than that of last year.

Just to gain some context, what would you expect the avg. speed of the winner to be? (Almost no wind forecasted)
My guess would be 46.5 km/h.
EDIT: Might be a little faster, maybe 47.5 km/h or so...

 

[Robert5091]

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When do the juniors start tomorrow?

Start list for Men's junior tt 27.7 km - first man (junior?) off 10.10 CET (or Innsbruck time if you will)

http://tissottiming.com/2018/crdwch/us-en/default/Stage/5/StartList#anchor

 

[Koronin]

I still think Castroviejo could get a medal in the ITT. Although I do think the gold is between Dennis and Dumoulin.

 

[kiszol]

Re: Re:

40m flat course is perfect yeah. I'm not sure a 1h+ 52km hilly course with a 5km steep climb in it is

1 CANCELLARA Fabian Switzerland 350 300 45.343 1:12:15
2 DUMOULIN Tom Netherlands 250 220 44.856 0:47
3 FROOME Chris Great Britain 200 170 44.703 1:02
4 CASTROVIEJO Jonathan Spain 150 130 44.663 1:06
5 DENNIS Rohan Australia 125 100 44.622 1:10
6 BODNAR Maciej Poland 100 90 44.220 1:50
7 OLIVEIRA Nelson Portugal 85 80 44.121 2:00
8 IZAGIRRE Ion Spain 70 70 44.062 2:06
9 THOMAS Geraint Great Britain 60 60 43.758 2:37
10 ROGLIČ Primož Slovenia 50 50 43.729 2:4

The Olympics TT. Dennis lost a medal because of a bike change.

Yeah, sure. And Dumoulin probably lost an Olympic Gold Medal because of his crash and broken wrist during the Tour. He even had pain durint the Olympics TT...

 

[The Barb]

Re: Re:

40m flat course is perfect yeah. I'm not sure a 1h+ 52km hilly course with a 5km steep climb in it is

1 CANCELLARA Fabian Switzerland 350 300 45.343 1:12:15
2 DUMOULIN Tom Netherlands 250 220 44.856 0:47
3 FROOME Chris Great Britain 200 170 44.703 1:02
4 CASTROVIEJO Jonathan Spain 150 130 44.663 1:06
5 DENNIS Rohan Australia 125 100 44.622 1:10
6 BODNAR Maciej Poland 100 90 44.220 1:50
7 OLIVEIRA Nelson Portugal 85 80 44.121 2:00
8 IZAGIRRE Ion Spain 70 70 44.062 2:06
9 THOMAS Geraint Great Britain 60 60 43.758 2:37
10 ROGLIČ Primož Slovenia 50 50 43.729 2:4

The Olympics TT. Dennis lost a medal because of a bike change.

Yeah, sure. And Dumoulin probably lost an Olympic Gold Medal because of his crash and broken wrist during the Tour. He even had pain durint the Olympics TT...

I'm not sure if your "yeah sure" comment about Dennis is sarcastic but I hope not. The fact that he missed a medal because of the mechanical failure is beyond doubt. He was second at the previous time check when his handle bar extension snapped. he briefly tried to ride on but the had to change his bike. Missed bronze by eight seconds.

 

[spalco]

Btw. current weather prognosis doesn't predict snow (which, while maybe dramatic I think wouldn't be good for the race), and not even that cold.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I am looking forward to Carlos Rodriguez' result. I don't really know what his TT is like, but he was very strong all year round.

Edit: actually, what am I saying. He finished top-10 in the European TT so we do have some indication

 

[DNP-Old]

Evenepoel, Van Wilder, Waerenskjold is my podium. Waerenskjold pure off of reputation and the fact that he's only one of two guys who has beaten Evenepoel in a time trial. In the EC he was completely, extremely awful and I haven't heard of him since, except for his announcement to Joker. Balmer, Gonov, Tulett, Heßmann, Hindsgaul, Piccolo, Blume Levy I could see taking bronze too. Quite a few guys missing today.

 

[kiszol]

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I'm not sure if your "yeah sure" comment about Dennis is sarcastic but I hope not. The fact that he missed a medal because of the mechanical failure is beyond doubt. He was second at the previous time check when his handle bar extension snapped. he briefly tried to ride on but the had to change his bike. Missed bronze by eight seconds.

For sure Dennis rode well in that race. I just pointed out that Dumoulin was even better. As we are talking about the chances of the two in the upcoming TT I thought it's worth a mention. I don't think that the length of the parcour will be the problem if Dennis fails to win. Imho the climb and the subsequent rolling terrain favours Dumoulin greatly and Dennis won't be able to build a big enough buffer on the flat part of the race.

 

[RedheadDane]

Habimana almost crashing before even heading down the ramp…

 

[Sestriere]

I really like to watch those early starters from the small cycling nations, good luck to them!

 

[Gigs_98]

I have to admit, I'm kinda hyped to watch evenepoel after all the hype around him

 

[Climbing]

Looks very windy, hopefully won't be too hard during RR.
I've heard it's quite typical to have strong winds in the zone during this period of the year...