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Boom is not a general case. I'm not sure Langeveld and Van der Velde had a bright future ahead of them in cyclocross anyway.

It just seems there is a golden Dutch generation to come in cyclocross. Van der Haar is possibly the most talented crosser I've seen in the U23 ranks since Albert. And it's true he's not concerned with the road. Not only does he find it boring but I've followed his results last year on the road and he was usually ****. Teunissen and Bosman (Gertjan) were far superior.

Normally he should turn pro next year (despite his young age). I'm looking forward to it. :)

Is it possible that Van der Heijden chooses for cross, now? I mean, Niels Wubben already switched from mtb to cross this year, under Groenendaal's advice. :)
 
Yeah, Van der Haar doesn't think he has anything special to offer on the road, and that certainly seems to be the case :p That's probably why he was so surprised to win the award for best espoir, ahead of Kelderman, for instance (which was indeed a bit ridiculous).

Wubben is nowhere near as talented as Van der Heijden, who was junior world champ. It's more difficult to break through in MTB, due to a much stronger field, but I think he'll try.
 
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El Pistolero said:
To be fair, Wietse Bosmans was stronger today than Lars van der Haar.
wha, wha, what??? give him credit for not being dropped when the Dutch teammates attacked him, but when he had the gap in the last K, from Van Der Haar's mistake, he did not hold it, then he sat up so as not to lead out the sprint but then had no sprint?? very strange tactic
congrats to the Nederland team, really good racing, probably more exciting then the Nys Show tomorrow.
how classic was Bosmans' hip check and elbow into the barriors of the Dutch rider when they were running in the sand (would of been a yellow card in a football match, gotta love cycling)
 
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wha, wha, what??? give him credit for not being dropped when the Dutch teammates attacked him, but when he had the gap in the last K, from Van Der Haar's mistake, he did not hold it, then he sat up so as not to lead out the sprint but then had no sprint?? very strange tactic
congrats to the Nederland team, really good racing, probably more exciting then the Nys Show tomorrow.
how classic was Bosmans' hip check and elbow into the barriors of the Dutch rider when they were running in the sand (would of been a yellow card in a football match, gotta love cycling)

Even van der Haar said he was not the strongest. The Dutch would have also gotten a yellow card if it was a football match, so the elbow thing doesn't really matter. I like to call that pay-back.

Don't get me wrong though, Van der Haar is the fair winner. He's quick and used good tactics plus could count on his team. In the sand Bosmans always got the gap though. People make mistakes when they're put under pressure, so that's not a very good excuse by the way.
 
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In the sand he always got a gap... unfortunately, it was just a few hundred meters of sand.

You're what happens when Wuyts' commentary turns into a human being.

Don't watch on Sporza if you hate it so much. Watch it on some Dutch tv channel ;)

Van der Haar: "Bosmans was gewoon sterker"

De 20-jarige Lars Van der Haar was opgelucht na zijn tweede wereldtitel op rij. Hij gaf toe dat het anders had kunnen lopen. "Wietse Bosman was gewoon sterker, vooral in het zand", analyseert hij.
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"Ik was heel goed gestart en probeerde de race hard te maken. Maar Wietse was goed in de afdalingen en daardoor moest ik vaak tijd goedmaken. Toen Michiel van der Heijden terugkwam, konden we samen naar Wietse rijden."

"In de laatste ronde wist ik dat we naar een sprint moesten om kans te maken. Of ik volgend jaar meedoe bij de profs? Dat hang van de UCI af."

Een ontgoochelde Wietse Bosmans voelde zich zelf ook de beste in koers. "Maar toen ik met de twee Nederlanders de finale inging, wist ik dat het moeilijk werd", vertelt de 20-jarige Belg.

"Het was in mijn nadeel dat ik de sterkste was in het zand. Daardoor moest ik er telkens als eerste door. Het was de hele tijd koersen op het scherp van de snee."

"Toen we aan de laatste twee rondes begonnen, zat ik in de val. Met hen de finale ingaan, was geen cadeau. Mocht Van der Heijden niet voorin zijn teruggekeerd, gaf ik mezelf sowieso meer winstkansen."
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You're what happens when a Dutch cyclist finally wins something ;)
 
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theyoungest said:
I don't hate it, I just know I have to take the commentary with a grain of salt, unlike you. I like to use my own eyes.

And as for a Belgian newspaper reporting on Van der Haar's post race comments...

I knew you were going to say that. I bet when Van der Haar says he's a clean cyclist he's just saying that to please the media, but in fact he's dirty dirty cyclist! ;) Not everyone is a pathological liar in interviews you know.

I used my eyes and saw what I saw. But hey, no surprise to see you think you know better than the cyclists them self. :)

And I really do mean it, stay clear of Sporza because you're always negative about it. Can't be healthy for your heart to watch that channel(just kidding)! Van der Haar was the fastest of the day, also the smartest and the Dutch team the strongest. But Van der Haar wasn't his usual dominating self today and that's partly because he's not the best in sand. But Bosmans just looked stronger. And when it comes to cyclo-cross I tend to not take Wuyts all that serious ;) The guy next to him knows a lot more about it than him.

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Styby or Nys will win tomorrow.
 
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Vos, as expected, utterly dominant. The battle for second was enjoyable to watch - was a bit surprised at how Cant seemed to sit up early even though Van den Brand hadn't fully passed her, especially as she was in front of her home crowd... seemed happy to settle for bronze rather than fight all the way to the line for silver?

Looking forward to the men's race :)
 
El Pistolero said:
Don't watch on Sporza if you hate it so much. Watch it on some Dutch tv channel ;)

Van der Haar: "Bosmans was gewoon sterker"

De 20-jarige Lars Van der Haar was opgelucht na zijn tweede wereldtitel op rij. Hij gaf toe dat het anders had kunnen lopen. "Wietse Bosman was gewoon sterker, vooral in het zand", analyseert hij.
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"Ik was heel goed gestart en probeerde de race hard te maken. Maar Wietse was goed in de afdalingen en daardoor moest ik vaak tijd goedmaken. Toen Michiel van der Heijden terugkwam, konden we samen naar Wietse rijden."

"In de laatste ronde wist ik dat we naar een sprint moesten om kans te maken. Of ik volgend jaar meedoe bij de profs? Dat hang van de UCI af."

Een ontgoochelde Wietse Bosmans voelde zich zelf ook de beste in koers. "Maar toen ik met de twee Nederlanders de finale inging, wist ik dat het moeilijk werd", vertelt de 20-jarige Belg.

"Het was in mijn nadeel dat ik de sterkste was in het zand. Daardoor moest ik er telkens als eerste door. Het was de hele tijd koersen op het scherp van de snee."

"Toen we aan de laatste twee rondes begonnen, zat ik in de val. Met hen de finale ingaan, was geen cadeau. Mocht Van der Heijden niet voorin zijn teruggekeerd, gaf ik mezelf sowieso meer winstkansen."
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The Dutch have been doing quite a lot of winning this weekend, thank you very much.
 
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Moondance said:
The Dutch have been doing quite a lot of winning this weekend, thank you very much.

this has basically just been a replication of the cx season, so really anyone surprised by the results - or should i say dutch domination :D - is either drunk or el pickle ;)
 
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Timmy-loves-Rabo said:
this has basically just been a replication of the cx season, so really anyone surprised by the results - or should i say dutch domination :D - is either drunk or el pickle ;)

Did I say I was surprised? On the contrary, I said Van der Haar wasn't his usual dominating self Saterday.

As for Van der Poel being Dutch. He has a French mother and a Dutch father. He grew up in Flanders and has a Flemish accent. You decide whether he's Dutch, French or whatever. Should we say French domination? He's family of Raymond Poulidor by the way. But whatever, call me ignorant then...
 
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Awww, yeah. Says it all really.
 
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pmcg76 said:
The links on sports-livez are crap today, keep freezing on me. Usually I have no problems with them. ****ing ****:(

Channel 7 worked great for me

What a clinic put on by the Belgies today. Total domination