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Carboncrank said:
Yea, in that sub category of dumb that actually means smart.


I think Rahm Emanuel is in trouble (from Sarah Palin of all people... I mean how good is that??) for using the term you are searching for.

When this kind of thing happens to an administration you know they are in deep, deep trouble.
 
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Cruise missiles... sidewinders are air to air.

We are a force for good when we properly identify the bad guy.

The righteous fight was always Afghanistan.

Thanks for clearing up the missle thing for me. Air to air, surface to ar... can't keep 'em straight.

BTW, you completely missed my point earlier and now I have a complex. I'm having second thoughts about asking sarcastic, facetious questions because you don't respond properly. So get it together, OK?
 

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I was trying to get under Scribe's skin, not yours.

BTW, in the dumb President category, nobody beats Carter.

Dumb, GWB, followed by Raygun. I love when that senile b@stard used to repeat lines out of his movies as if that $hit actually happened.

'....as the plane flew off the carrier deck, the young American hero knew a successful mission didn't ensure his return...' or some other such nonsense.

Scott, I know you're off the wall but you can't honestly be hoping for a POTUS Palin?
 

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I think Rahm Emanuel is in trouble (from Sarah Palin of all people... I mean how good is that??) for using the term you are searching for.

When this kind of thing happens to an administration you know they are in deep, deep trouble.


You missed it today pal. Rust Limbo got Emmanuel off the hook today with a rant that included the word "***" repeated about 4 times.

Now Sarah Dumb @ss is going to have to demand the resignation of that big fat idiot.
 
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Dumb, GWB, followed by Raygun. I love when that senile b@stard used to repeat lines out of his movies as if that $hit actually happened.

'....as the plane flew off the carrier deck, the young American hero knew a successful mission didn't ensure his return...' or some other such nonsense.

Scott, I know you're off the wall but you can't honestly be hoping for a POTUS Palin?

Now you're poking fun of a victim of Alzheimer's disease. That's low, even for you.

Off the wall? Please. I'm as mainstream as it gets.

You can't honestly say Palin would be any worse than the absolute brilliance we are witnessing now??...
 
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You missed it today pal. Rust Limbo got Emmanuel off the hook today with a rant that included the word "***" repeated about 4 times.

Now Sarah Dumb @ss is going to have to demand the resignation of that big fat idiot.

Be very careful where you get your info. I seriously doubt you listened to Rush's show and if there were anything anyone can consistantly take to the bank it's the fanatic left alledging something said by Rush he didn't actually say.

Now you are poking fun at fat people? You need to get some help with your anger/superiority issues.
 

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Now you're poking fun of a victim of Alzheimer's disease. That's low, even for you.

The guy had Alzheimers in '76 when he lost to Ford. Nothing against handicapped people, but people who are mentally challenged shouldn't be POTUS, that includes Palin BTW.


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Off the wall? Please. I'm as mainstream as it gets.

Oh, you're not alone, that's for sure. Kinda frightening the amount of tea bagging going on.


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You can't honestly say Palin would be any worse than the absolute brilliance we are witnessing now??...

Uhh yeah, I can. That nut doesn't even know why there's a North Korea and South Korea.

The screwball doesn't know who attacked us on 9/11.

She didn't know who Track, or whatever the fcuk his name is, was going to fight in Iraq.

McCain's own people were frightened that if he won and died, that psycho would be POTUS.

D!ck Cheney, for goodness sake, that jerk even said she was massively unqualified and GWB said so as well and he's about as dumb as you can get.


Doesn't Buck Cherry have a song called "Crazy B!tch?" That $hit is about her.
 
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The guy had Alzheimers in '76 when he lost to Ford. Nothing against handicapped people, but people who are mentally challenged shouldn't be POTUS, that includes Palin BTW.




Oh, you're not alone, that's for sure. Kinda frightening the amount of tea bagging going on.




Uhh yeah, I can. That nut doesn't even know why there's a North Korea and South Korea.

The screwball doesn't know who attacked us on 9/11.

She didn't know who Track, or whatever the fcuk his name is, was going to fight in Iraq.

McCain's own people were frightened that if he won and died, that psycho would be POTUS.

D!ck Cheney, for goodness sake, that jerk even said she was massively unqualified and GWB said so as well and he's about as dumb as you can get.


Doesn't Buck Cherry have a song called "Crazy B!tch?" That $hit is about her.


There's at least 60 million registered voters that would pull the lever this second for anyone if they could make the Obama nightmare go away. The greatest part? Your guy is going to make your worst political nightmare a reality and I find that funnier than you can possibly imagine.

BTW, you might want to listen to the lyrics of that Buck Cherry song. I'm not sure it applies to your argument unless you are sexually fantisizing about Palin.
 
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Facing the ongoing instability for a millenium doesn't allow him to make the case that the evil Americans are to blame for their woes.

The issue to be posed is not whether the next century, or millenium, will be riddled with instability as a cause of a debilitated US hegmony, but how conservative America believes it can prevent the inevitable transformation from a pro-American world of the 20th century, to an anti-American world of the 21st.

Two administrations of the neocons in power have allowed us to see that far from preventing the transformation, they have actually accelerated it and, consequently, have, in spite of all their military efforts, also paved the way for a more daring show of presence against US interests within the international arena (China, Iran, Russia, South America, etc.). Their political agenda is only destined to exacerbate the phenomenon, as if the more the US believes it can move unilaterally as national convenience suggests, the more growing hostility its foreign adversaries will pose. As if the ferociousness of the open challenge to US interests, is directly proportional to the arrogant supposition that the nation can mold the world to its own liking and as convenience presents itself. The ideology of "exporting democracy" to veil a forced imperialism is only the most cogent example of the fallacy of such an approach within the international order

Consequently the hawkish line to dealing with the US power crisis, for that is what it amounts to, in Afghanestan and Iraq - also due to the hypocritical US approach in the regions - has proven to be pathetically unproductive, just as the exorbitant costs will prevent home economic growth for US generations to come.

And all this, I might add, in the interests of the few conservitive and occultists powers of the military-industrial-finacial block and the tools of the system that vote for their political ideologues, who belive that the world is thiers to do with as they see fit.

A liberal force in power is simply a return to reallity and, ironically, despite the utopian criticism of its ideology of a mulitilateral world in relative political harmony, a return to what's possible. Given that the supposed neocon "possibility" that the globe could be somehow forced into compliance with the US through brute military and economic leverage, has turned out to be, following the nature of multiparty relationships, simply impossible.
 
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Now you're poking fun of a victim of Alzheimer's disease. That's low, even for you.

Off the wall? Please. I'm as mainstream as it gets.

You can't honestly say Palin would be any worse than the absolute brilliance we are witnessing now??...

Uh, yes, I can. On top of the fact that contrary to the bleak, apocalyptic blovations of right winged propaganda, the economy is improving. Sucks for you guys. You guys were so hoping for continued misery and despair. Dang.
 
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There's at least 60 million registered voters that would pull the lever this second for anyone if they could make the Obama nightmare go away. The greatest part? Your guy is going to make your worst political nightmare a reality and I find that funnier than you can possibly imagine.

BTW, you might want to listen to the lyrics of that Buck Cherry song. I'm not sure it applies to your argument unless you are sexually fantisizing about Palin.

Again, the economy is improving. All you guys are going to have in a year is the "big scary negro socialist" banter that will only work on the core of the tea bagging crowd. In case you hadn't noticed, the economy is getting stronger. I know you guys need a bleak recession to justify your banter now, but it looks like you will have some egg on your faces with the way things are turning around. I know it sucks man, but all of your "he will destroy the economy, people will die, they will change the flag to red with a sickle and hammer, terrorists will move in next door and eat your children with his approval" stuff is not going to fly much longer...I know you guys wanted more people to lose their jobs and for there to be more homeless children and stuff, but it looks like your wishes are not going to happen.
 
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You do know that he has the highest recorded IQ of any president, right?

Probably not recorded but the highest might just be Jefferson...by the way...it is not the IQ that means anything, it is what you do with it...
 
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Probably not recorded but the highest might just be Jefferson...by the way...it is not the IQ that means anything, it is what you do with it...

Yea, Bush put all 65 points to work...turned out great...
 
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I also want to state clearly that there are plenty of things to criticize Obama over, it is just that all of the right winged talking points are bullsh!t in content. Republican rhetoric is lead by people like Rush and Hannity and Coulter and Malkin and Beck. ALL or their attacks are filled with hyperbole, falsehoods, and intentional distortions because they make money from it. The problem is that there are a lot of people out there who think they are hearing facts, and they just aren't. That is why I believe most of the hatred of Obama is racially based. When the talk is not rational, and it just isn't, then there must be an irrational belief motivating the rhetoric. In this case, especially in the South, it is clear that most of it is because of the color of his skin first, and everything else after that.
 
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Uh, yes, I can. On top of the fact that contrary to the bleak, apocalyptic blovations of right winged propaganda, the economy is improving. Sucks for you guys. You guys were so hoping for continued misery and despair. Dang.

Starting in 2003, go back and take a look at how the left did anything... anything to talk down the economy when it actually was recovering (after 9/11). Kinda like Nevada's village idiot declaring "the war is lost" in the middle of the war.

See, conservatives actually want a vibrant economy. One can't say the same about the left.

Unfortunately for your side, this economy sucks and spending the country into the ground is not helping. If Moody's is concerned maybe you should be too. Dang.

"Moody’s Investors Service fired off a warning on Wednesday that the triple A sovereign credit rating of the US would come under pressure unless economic growth was more robust than expected or tougher actions were taken to tackle the country’s budget deficit.

In a move that follows intensifying concern among investors over the US deficit, Moody’s said the country faced a trajectory of debt growth that was “clearly continuously upward”.




http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a82cfe04-10f5-11df-9a9e-00144feab49a.html



Makes one take pause, no? The best part is we have not spent a nickel on a Trillion dollar heathcare overhaul and an econmic engine killing cap-and-trade is looming, ironically, to help solve a problem that does not exist. Meanwhile, taxes in this country are going up and that will produce two outcomes;

1. Very little difference in Treasury reciepts.
2. Reduced economic activity.

But then again, who really f'ing cares? You guys just do your thing and the rest of us will adapt the best we can.
 
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I also want to state clearly that there are plenty of things to criticize Obama over, it is just that all of the right winged talking points are bullsh!t in content. Republican rhetoric is lead by people like Rush and Hannity and Coulter and Malkin and Beck. ALL or their attacks are filled with hyperbole, falsehoods, and intentional distortions because they make money from it. The problem is that there are a lot of people out there who think they are hearing facts, and they just aren't. That is why I believe most of the hatred of Obama is racially based. When the talk is not rational, and it just isn't, then there must be an irrational belief motivating the rhetoric. In this case, especially in the South, it is clear that most of it is because of the color of his skin first, and everything else after that.


The chatter from the right was very similar during Clinton's first term (he actually is caucasion although I don't think he realizes this). You may believe criticisim from the right towards Obama has racism at it's core but that doesn't mean it's true. I guarantee you if Obama was pro-business, pro-job growth, pro-smaller govt he would have so much conservative support it would make your head spin.

I actually like the guy but I don't like his ideas.
 
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The issue to be posed is not whether the next century, or millenium, will be riddled with instability as a cause of a debilitated US hegmony, but how conservative America believes it can prevent the inevitable transformation from a pro-American world of the 20th century, to an anti-American world of the 21st.

Two administrations of the neocons in power have allowed us to see that far from preventing the transformation, they have actually accelerated it and, consequently, have, in spite of all their military efforts, also paved the way for a more daring show of presence against US interests within the international arena (China, Iran, Russia, South America, etc.). Their political agenda is only destined to exacerbate the phenomenon, as if the more the US believes it can move unilaterally as national convenience suggests, the more growing hostility its foreign adversaries will pose. As if the ferociousness of the open challenge to US interests, is directly proportional to the arrogant supposition that the nation can mold the world to its own liking and as convenience presents itself. The ideology of "exporting democracy" to veil a forced imperialism is only the most cogent example of the fallacy of such an approach within the international order.

Consequently the hawkish line to dealing with the US power crisis, for that is what it amounts to, in Afghanestan and Iraq - also due to the hypocritical US approach in the regions - has proven to be pathetically unproductive, just as the exhorbitant costs will prevent home economic growth for US generations to come.

And all this, I might add, in the interests of the few conservitive and occultists powers of the military-industrial-finacial block and the tools of the system that vote for their political ideologues, who belive that the world is thiers to do with as they see fit.

A liberal force in power is simply a return to reallity and, ironically, despite the utopian criticism of its ideology of a mulitilateral world in relative political harmony, a return to what's possible. Given that the supposed neocon "possibility" that the globe could be somehow forced into compliance with the US through brute military and economic leverage, has turned out to be, following the nature of multiparty relationships, simply impossible.

That was really wonderful.

I'm not really big on a One-World-Government.
 

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rhubroma said:
A liberal force in power is simply a return to reallity and, ironically, despite the utopian criticism of its ideology of a mulitilateral world in relative political harmony, a return to what's possible. Given that the supposed neocon "possibility" that the globe could be somehow forced into compliance with the US through brute military and economic leverage, has turned out to be, following the nature of multiparty relationships, simply impossible.

Gosh, that was a barrow load of ivory tower blather. Your poli sci prof will probably give you a biscuit for your pavlovian regurgitation of his revisionist dogma.

We need to return to the reality of what leftist or at best, given Clinton's 2 terms, limp wristed defensive stance gave us. That reality gave us Carter, with 444 days of our embassy personnel held hostage while our impotent president can't land a 'heel'-icopter in the desert.

And then Clinton, who claimed he couldn't do anything about Bin Laden due to 'the wall' constructed by his wonks, Jamie Gorelick. This allowed him and his followers to orchestrate 9/11. And according to you, that is a reality that we are supposed to accommodate? okey dokey then.
 
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For all those insistent on blaming the left, the right, Bush 1, Bush 2, Obama, Clinton, Carter, Reagan, Kennedy, Nixon...

I suggest a different tac: blame those who choose to vote with any group that does not have the individual's best interest; blame those who can vote but do not; blame those swayed by color or personality or religious ideology--and not by intellect and compassion and experience and measurable accomplishments.

F*ck consensus if it divides the country and makes us hated.

People need to take back the power. That, Mr. Obama, IS our only hope.
 

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For all those insistent on blaming the left, the right, Bush 1, Bush 2, Obama, Clinton, Carter, Reagan, Kennedy, Nixon...

I suggest a different tac: blame those who choose to vote with any group that does not have the individual's best interest; blame those who can vote but do not; blame those swayed by color or personality or religious ideology--and not by intellect and compassion and experience and measurable accomplishments.

F*ck consensus if it divides the country and makes us hated.

People need to take back the power. That, Mr. Obama, IS our only hope.

thanks for agreeing with me, though I doubt it was your explicit intent.
 

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Starting in 2003, go back and take a look at how the left did anything... anything to talk down the economy when it actually was recovering (after 9/11). Kinda like Nevada's village idiot declaring "the war is lost" in the middle of the war.

See, conservatives actually want a vibrant economy. One can't say the same about the left.

Unfortunately for your side, this economy sucks and spending the country into the ground is not helping. If Moody's is concerned maybe you should be too. Dang.

"Moody’s Investors Service fired off a warning on Wednesday that the triple A sovereign credit rating of the US would come under pressure unless economic growth was more robust than expected or tougher actions were taken to tackle the country’s budget deficit.

In a move that follows intensifying concern among investors over the US deficit, Moody’s said the country faced a trajectory of debt growth that was “clearly continuously upward”.




http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a82cfe04-10f5-11df-9a9e-00144feab49a.html



Makes one take pause, no? The best part is we have not spent a nickel on a Trillion dollar heathcare overhaul and an econmic engine killing cap-and-trade is looming, ironically, to help solve a problem that does not exist. Meanwhile, taxes in this country are going up and that will produce two outcomes;

1. Very little difference in Treasury reciepts.
2. Reduced economic activity.

But then again, who really f'ing cares? You guys just do your thing and the rest of us will adapt the best we can.

The economic collapse came under your watch.

Giving away the treasury hadn't been enough, they wanted to throw us so deep into deficit that social spending would not be possible.

It was slash and burn fiscal policy. it devastated the landscape and left the earth salted behind.
 
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