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Oncearunner8

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Scott SoCal said:
Nope. We think we are right whereas you know you are. It was funnier in my head. Been a loooong day.

Is it OK to call you El Presedente?

not unless your drinking which in the case of your missing Avatard iiiiiiiit is missing.... wtf???????? drink up ....you So Cal .....sled driveing ......smack talking .......dodger fan?????
 

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ChrisE said:
You're not missing anything. Just a bunch of mindless whack drivel. If buckwheat had 2 brains he would be twice as stupid.

I will let you know when he writes something intelligent. *crickets*

dude ...where IS you ARE drunk azz???? M3 Man is not supposed to envy such things but that rig is the shizz.

HEY YALL check this out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9993iJlYU&feature=related I tempted to say that the wheat is involved in this but..... in the spirit of .....inclusion .... I will say he is not.

Hey man chill. I like your posts because it adds some fun.
 
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Oncearunner8 said:
dude ...where IS you ARE drunk azz???? M3 Man is not supposed to envy such things but that rig is the shizz.

HEY YALL check this out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9993iJlYU&feature=related I tempted to say that the wheat is involved in this but..... in the spirit of .....inclusion .... I will say he is not.

Hey man chill. I like your posts because it adds some fun.

O M G! Full on beer on the keyboard... geez-us. That's good.
 
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Oncearunner8 said:
not unless your drinking which in the case of your missing Avatard iiiiiiiit is missing.... wtf???????? drink up ....you So Cal .....sled driveing ......smack talking .......dodger fan?????

Nah... I hate the Dodgers.

You're posts are noticeably more fun after a few. Cheers!
 
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Nah... I hate the Dodgers.

You're posts are noticeably more fun after a few. Cheers!

Ah hah, common ground at last, well that and beer. To OAR let me just say......iff yall erschtil awakeez efterr yerr lickwid bindnes lunch sheethyowdee an im knot ner as thenk az hew drunk i yam
 
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Ah hah, common ground at last, well that and beer. To OAR let me just say......iff yall erschtil awakeez efterr yerr lickwid bindnes lunch sheethyowdee an im knot ner as thenk az hew drunk i yam

Uh, no ocifer I'm sotally tober....
 

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Scott SoCal said:
Nah... I hate the Dodgers.

You're posts are noticeably more fun after a few. Cheers!

I was a bit down in the dumps last night! Ya know it is bad when ChrisE stops posting because he must have thought I was drunk. I have no idea why he would think that.

I just figured you to be a Dodgers fan but your taste in Beer should have told me that you were not.
 

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Ah hah, common ground at last, well that and beer. To OAR let me just say......iff yall erschtil awakeez efterr yerr lickwid bindnes lunch sheethyowdee an im knot ner as thenk az hew drunk i yam

HAHA.

For some reason I awoke with a headache today. This is bad because I plan to run 9 miles at lunch.
 

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scribe said:
I've lost track of who the good guys are and who the bad guys are, in this thread.


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At 600 posts to this thread, accounting for 1 post to every six total.... Is there anyone that doesn't know exactly what scott's rush limbaugh positions are??

Back on track.
 
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patricknd said:
should i not have done that?:)

Don't you know that there are three things you NEVER bring up: Religion, Politics, and the Challenger explosion! :D
 

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Don't you know that there are three things you NEVER bring up: Religion, Politics, and the Challenger explosion! :D

Odd, those are the only things I talk about..:confused:
 
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Talk about a disaster forseeable and predictable

So, I'm sitting in my office reading about the bloodbath on Wall St. today. The bulk of the jitters seem to coming from the situation with Greece and the fear that Portugal, Spain and possibly Italy are facing similar systemic problems. Not being real familiar with the details in Greece I thought I would look in to what's happening and I found a few things, namely;

Only the first of these reasons calls unambiguously for Greeks to accept the pain of fiscal austerity. All the others have a strong European dimension and call for European solutions. In particular, the loss of competitiveness by Greece (and a number of other countries, including Spain and Ireland) is the mirror image of an increase in relative competitiveness by others, notably Germany, Austria and the Netherlands. The latter countries could not have increased their net exports without the faster demand expansion in the former group, which, it is often forgotten, were also responsible for much of Europe’s economic and jobs growth in recent years, while demand and output growth in the surplus countries has been sluggish. The problem is symmetrical and the solution must be as well.

For Greece has not – as is often claimed or implied – lagged behind Germany in raising productivity: on the contrary hourly labour productivity increased more than twice as fast in Greece than Germany during the ten years of the euro since 1999. Nor do frequent claims in the media of Greek ‘laziness’ stand up to scrutiny: average annual working hours are the longest in Europe (and hundreds of hours per year longer than in Germany!). The problem has been with nominal wage and price setting.

Due to strong differences in wage setting, Greek nominal unit labour costs increased by more than 30% since the start of EMU – and the increases in Italy, Spain, Portugal and Ireland were even higher – whereas in Germany they rose by just 8%. Monopolistic price setting is also critical, enabling firms to pass on higher wage costs or imported prices onto domestic prices. Such wage and price divergences are not sustainable within a monetary union where exchange-rate adjustments are no longer possible. But this requires an adjustment from both ends. Wages and prices in Greece and other countries need to fall in relative terms, but they must increase faster in Germany, whose aggressive wage moderation policies are deflationary, export unemployment and threaten to explode the monetary union. This is the only way to rebalance the euro area while avoiding the huge risk of a deflationary spiral.


http://www.social-europe.eu/2010/04/open-letter-to-european-policymakers-the-greek-crisis-is-a-european-crisis-and-needs-european-solutions/


The Euro is now getting hammered. It's mostly reactionary at this point but some are suggesting the collapse of the Eurozone if what's happening in Greece spreads to Spain.

I think there are some similarities comparing Greece and the State of California. Furthermore, I think there are similarities between the Eurozone and the USA (that is to say that I don't believe Floridians will be too happy if the Feds send their tax dollars to bail out Cali).

So, why are some in the US seeming to embrace Western European socialism (for lack of a better term) when we can see what will likely happen? Additionally, we can already see some festering with California Public Employees and it is only a matter of time before the Federal stimulus money runs out and teachers, cops, firemen, city, county, water district and other public employees get either laid off or asked to take big cuts. There is very little growth in the private sector in California so governments can forget about a growth in tax revenue. In addition, the unemployment in Cali is significantly higher than the national average yet the Governator is "full steam ahead" with AB 32 (cap and trade) which some studies have shown job losses to exceed 1,000,000 net. There will be no bail-out from the private sector in California.

Are big govt solutions really the answer?
 
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Scott SoCal said:
So, I'm sitting in my office reading about the bloodbath on Wall St. today. The bulk of the jitters seem to coming from the situation with Greece and the fear that Portugal, Spain and possibly Italy are facing similar systemic problems. Not being real familiar with the details in Greece I thought I would look in to what's happening and I found a few things, namely;

Only the first of these reasons calls unambiguously for Greeks to accept the pain of fiscal austerity. All the others have a strong European dimension and call for European solutions. In particular, the loss of competitiveness by Greece (and a number of other countries, including Spain and Ireland) is the mirror image of an increase in relative competitiveness by others, notably Germany, Austria and the Netherlands. The latter countries could not have increased their net exports without the faster demand expansion in the former group, which, it is often forgotten, were also responsible for much of Europe’s economic and jobs growth in recent years, while demand and output growth in the surplus countries has been sluggish. The problem is symmetrical and the solution must be as well.

For Greece has not – as is often claimed or implied – lagged behind Germany in raising productivity: on the contrary hourly labour productivity increased more than twice as fast in Greece than Germany during the ten years of the euro since 1999. Nor do frequent claims in the media of Greek ‘laziness’ stand up to scrutiny: average annual working hours are the longest in Europe (and hundreds of hours per year longer than in Germany!). The problem has been with nominal wage and price setting.

Due to strong differences in wage setting, Greek nominal unit labour costs increased by more than 30% since the start of EMU – and the increases in Italy, Spain, Portugal and Ireland were even higher – whereas in Germany they rose by just 8%. Monopolistic price setting is also critical, enabling firms to pass on higher wage costs or imported prices onto domestic prices. Such wage and price divergences are not sustainable within a monetary union where exchange-rate adjustments are no longer possible. But this requires an adjustment from both ends. Wages and prices in Greece and other countries need to fall in relative terms, but they must increase faster in Germany, whose aggressive wage moderation policies are deflationary, export unemployment and threaten to explode the monetary union. This is the only way to rebalance the euro area while avoiding the huge risk of a deflationary spiral.


http://www.social-europe.eu/2010/04/open-letter-to-european-policymakers-the-greek-crisis-is-a-european-crisis-and-needs-european-solutions/


The Euro is now getting hammered. It's mostly reactionary at this point but some are suggesting the collapse of the Eurozone if what's happening in Greece spreads to Spain.

I think there are some similarities comparing Greece and the State of California. Furthermore, I think there are similarities between the Eurozone and the USA (that is to say that I don't believe Floridians will be too happy if the Feds send their tax dollars to bail out Cali).

So, why are some in the US seeming to embrace Western European socialism (for lack of a better term) when we can see what will likely happen? Additionally, we can already see some festering with California Public Employees and it is only a matter of time before the Federal stimulus money runs out and teachers, cops, firemen, city, county, water district and other public employees get either laid off or asked to take big cuts. There is very little growth in the private sector in California so governments can forget about a growth in tax revenue. In addition, the unemployment in Cali is significantly higher than the national average yet the Governator is "full steam ahead" with AB 32 (cap and trade) which some studies have shown job losses to exceed 1,000,000 net. There will be no bail-out from the private sector in California.

Are big govt solutions really the answer?

I would suggest that the comparison of Greece to California is a bit misguided. Where exactly was California's 30% increase because of wage setting? And in the absence of that, the economic downturn in California is to be blamed on the government? Um, I don't think so.

As for the plummet of the stock market, sounds like automatic trading because of programs set to sell when specific market parameters were hit caused the death spiral. Heck, the NASDAQ is no honoring sells for a 20 minute period or so around 2:40pm. Sounds to me like automatic gambling is dicey when some dude can trigger a sell-off because he typed in the wrong number. http://blogs.forbes.com/streettalk/2010/05/06/greek-woes-or-traders-mistake-take-your-pick/

Capitalism at its finest. Some a$$hat screws up and your retirement is shot to he!! again.

"the rumor was far more troubling: a trader at a major dealer accidentally entered an order to sell 16 BILLION worth of stock market futures contracts instead of the intended 16 MILLION."

Sounds like maybe we need a reassessment of what we allow with off-track betting if some guy can trigger something like that with the addition of 3 zeroes. Yea, Wall Street needs to be left to play with money as unregulated as possible...
 
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after reading about the "oops" mistake today i'm actually thankful that i was already too poor to lose much. count your blessings..........
 
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Are big corporate solutions really the answer?

Haven't you heard, altruism is sweeping through the boardrooms of every company in America. If we just let them keep all of their money, they will send lollipops and sunshine for everyone's sphincter. Why, it will be the greatest thing since the invention of the Herpes vaccine. They will require all of the infrastructure necessary to carry out their business, but we regular folk can shoulder that on the pauper's wages they will set in the absence of minimum wages, because lets face it, Greece shows that minimum wages are the cause of the entire global economic melt down. In fact, while we are at it, lets let the guys who traded in derivatives keep up their shell game without ever making them deal with the havoc they caused. Heck, Credit Default Swaps show that unregulated insurance purchased against assets that YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO OWN can make you a sweet penny...well, by you I mean that top 1% with 34% of the wealth in our nation. The rest of us will just have to suck on the crumbs left after they eat their meals.
 
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