World Politics

[redtreviso]

""Former President George W. Bush and former first lady Laura Bush said in separate interviews with Greta van Susteren on Fox News Thursday that the plight of Afghan women should be at the forefront as the U.S. tries to untangle itself from the Afghan war.

Both were speaking as part of the second annual conference of the U.S.-Afghan Women’s Council, a public-private partnership set up by President Bush and President Hamid Karzai in 2002 to help Afghan women.

While the former first lady framed her argument mostly in the language of global economic development, arguing that “economies can’t succeed unless all people can be involved,” the former president framed his argument more in terms of a neoconservative foreign policy.

“My concern of course is that the United States gets weary of being in Afghanistan and says, ‘It’s not worth it, let’s leave’ and Laura and I believe that if that were to happen, women would suffer again,” he told van Susteren. “And we don’t believe that’s in the interest of the United States or the world to create a safe haven for terrorists and stand by and watch women’s rights be abused.”""

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How pathetic is this? When videos of Afghan women being executed were circulating the Neo-Cons were lobbying for the recognition of the Taliban. Bill Clinton opposed them.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Well that's just great. As disappointing Obama has become, Bush needs to go away to his Texas ranch and stay there. If I never hear another comment from him it will be too soon.

 

[Señor_Contador]

Since we're on the subject of American presidents... let's talk about Reagan. It's always amazed me how idolized he is in conservative America. So much so that I decided to read up on the man and was astonished to find out that towards the end of his presidency the man couldn't even articulate things like his foreign policy goals, et cetera.

Take Bush and Cheney. I mean, it's so clear that the later was the de facto president it makes me laugh. GWB got *****ed like a little puss.

And now Obama. I'll change this, I'll change that, and the first thing he does is to make sure that everything stays the same by appointing the usual suspects; or, as in this case, appointing the very people who caused the present economic crisis to cabinets in charge of resolving the crisis.

It's complete and utter madness.

These people go from the public to the private sector (and viceversa) so often it's hard to keep track of what they're doing.

 

[Señor_Contador]

Well that's just great. As disappointing Obama has become, Bush needs to go away to his Texas ranch and stay there. If I never hear another comment from him it will be too soon.

Bush was, without a shadow of a doubt, the worst president of all time.

He's a disgrace to humanity.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

President Obama = Epic Fail

Has he ever said anything besides campaign slogans? I hope to never hear another comment from him. He is a horrible failure as President of the United States.

Health care plan = falls short of what he promised

Gitmo = Fail

Get out of Iraq after another monkey started the war = epic FAIL

Afgan surge????? wtf

 

[redtreviso]

Has he ever said anything besides campaign slogans? I hope to never hear another comment from him. He is a horrible failure as President of the United States.

Health care plan = falls short of what he promised

Gitmo = Fail

Get out of Iraq after another monkey started the war = epic FAIL

Afgan surge????? wtf

Ye haw...vote for Palin

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Ye haw...vote for Palin

You go to far. ......

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Yes, meet the old boss, same as the new boss. The party on the left, is now the party on the right.

These people go from the public to the private sector (and viceversa) so often it's hard to keep track of what they're doing.

This is precisely what I'm talking about when I write here about plutocracy. There are so many people who have their hands in the cookie jar, they move in and out of large corporations or organizations to politics and back, and they exist this way.

This is why it's rather amusing listening to conservatives like the Koch brothers lament "Marxism", while conveniently not wanting to discuss facts such as YOUR tax dollars paid for millions of miles of logging roads to be built so they could log the forests and reap the profits. Their list of connections to the government goes on and on. The Koch brothers are modern day plutocrats, and they are not the only ones. Many of them sit on government committees while working for the same industry they are advising in oversight. They are essentially socialists.

 

[redtreviso]

Yes, meet the old boss, same as the new boss. The party on the left, is now the party on the right.



This is precisely what I'm talking about when I write here about plutocracy. There are so many people who have their hands in the cookie jar, they move in and out of large corporations or organizations to politics and back, and they exist this way.

This is why it's rather amusing listening to conservatives like the Koch brothers lament "Marxism", while conveniently not wanting to discuss facts such as YOUR tax dollars paid for millions of miles of logging roads to be built so they could log the forests and reap the profits. Their list of connections to the government goes on and on. The Koch brothers are modern day plutocrats, and they are not the only ones. Many of them sit on government committees while working for the same industry they are advising in oversight. They are essentially socialists.

Party Members..like Russian communists..Republican voters are like their own little pep squad..Meanwhile they scream "socialism!!" etc.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Party Members..like Russian communists..Republican voters are like their own little pep squad..Meanwhile they scream "socialism!!" etc.

Our entire "Government" is geared towards benefiting the upper class at the expense of the middle class, while giving just enough of what that middle class had to the vast lower class to keep them from rioting in the streets. All the time making sure that they are all blaming each other for their problems so that none of them notice how they are being screwed over.
The last President who gave any kind of thought to the middle class was Clinton.

 

[Bala Verde]

Afgan surge????? wtf

as successful as the Iraq surge...

Our findings suggest that the surge has had no observable effect

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Nor will it.

Agree with Hugh's post for the most part.

Meanwhile, came across this from Robert Reich. One of the few Dems I think actually looking out for the middle class, and not just with rhetoric:

Quiz: Which of the 2012 presidential aspirants delivered the following words at the Conservative Political Action Convention, now underway in Washington?

"We have seen tax-and-tax spend-and-spend reach a fantastic total greater than in all the previous 170 years of our Republic.

Behind this plush curtain of tax and spend, three sinister spooks or ghosts are mixing poison for the American people. They are the shades of Mussolini, with his bureaucratic fascism; of Karl Marx, and his socialism; and of Lord Keynes, with his perpetual government spending, deficits, and inflation. And we added a new ideology of our own. That is government give-away programs….

If you want to see pure socialism mixed with give-away programs, take a look at socialized medicine."

If you guessed Jim DeMint, you could be forgiven. He talks a lot like this. But you’d be wrong. Newt Gingrich didn’t utter these precise words, either, although he uses much the same language and offers the same themes.

You’d also be wrong if you guessed Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, Tim Pawlenty, Ron Paul, Haley Barbour, John Thune, Mitt Romney, or Mitch Daniels. (Sarah Palin isn’t attending.)

But again, your mistake would be understandable because these words sound a lot like theirs. Any of them could have delivered this message – and all of them have, over and over again. It’s the Republican message of 2011.

The perfectly correct answer is Herbert Hoover.

Full article here.

 

[redtreviso]

Republican??? nah!!!!

""A Joliet woman has been charged with disorderly conduct after harassing a woman wearing a head scarf at Orland Square Mall, Orland Park police said.

Luana Merle, 51, began insulting the ethnicity of another shopper in the JC Penney store on March 24, calling the woman a terrorist and telling her to “go back to her own country,” according to police.""

http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/news/4699136-417/head-scarf-angers-orland-mall-shopper.html

 

[Semper Fidelis]

as successful as the Iraq surge...

Our findings suggest that the surge has had no observable effect

your full of ****. That Iraq surge did work. Keep dreaming and hiding behind your own lack of a legit opinion.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Republican??? nah!!!!

""A Joliet woman has been charged with disorderly conduct after harassing a woman wearing a head scarf at Orland Square Mall, Orland Park police said.

Luana Merle, 51, began insulting the ethnicity of another shopper in the JC Penney store on March 24, calling the woman a terrorist and telling her to “go back to her own country,” according to police.""

http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/news/4699136-417/head-scarf-angers-orland-mall-shopper.html

dahhh horrah....

 

[patricknd]

Republican??? nah!!!!

""A Joliet woman has been charged with disorderly conduct after harassing a woman wearing a head scarf at Orland Square Mall, Orland Park police said.

Luana Merle, 51, began insulting the ethnicity of another shopper in the JC Penney store on March 24, calling the woman a terrorist and telling her to “go back to her own country,” according to police.""

http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/news/4699136-417/head-scarf-angers-orland-mall-shopper.html

not republican. that's the chicago way

 

[redtreviso]

not republican. that's the chicago way

I doubt it.. she probably looked something like this

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I doubt it.. she probably looked something like this

DUBYA button is crazy funny. Not to mention ...I am stuck on bandaids.....cause bandaids stuck on YOU!

 

[Hugh Januss]

I doubt it.. she probably looked something like this

Take away the Dubya button she could just as easily be southern Democrat.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Very true Hugh!

 

[redtreviso]

Take away the Dubya button she could just as easily be southern Democrat.

With a purple heart bandaid? During this time Bush said that if he and Quayle had actually served in Vietnam the outcome would have been different compared to what happened because of those that did serve.

 

[Hugh Januss]

With a purple heart bandaid? During this time Bush said that if he and Quayle had actually served in Vietnam the outcome would have been different compared to what happened because of those that did serve.

Yeah, but almost nobody believed that BS.

 

[redtreviso]

Yeah, but almost nobody believed that BS.

All of those bandaid wearers and future Tb'rs did..Just like Mitt Romney's sons considered themselves on the front lines like soldiers by trying to elect their daddy.

 

[usedtobefast]

Nor will it.

Agree with Hugh's post for the most part.

Meanwhile, came across this from Robert Reich. One of the few Dems I think actually looking out for the middle class, and not just with rhetoric:

Quiz: Which of the 2012 presidential aspirants delivered the following words at the Conservative Political Action Convention, now underway in Washington?

"We have seen tax-and-tax spend-and-spend reach a fantastic total greater than in all the previous 170 years of our Republic.

Behind this plush curtain of tax and spend, three sinister spooks or ghosts are mixing poison for the American people. They are the shades of Mussolini, with his bureaucratic fascism; of Karl Marx, and his socialism; and of Lord Keynes, with his perpetual government spending, deficits, and inflation. And we added a new ideology of our own. That is government give-away programs….

If you want to see pure socialism mixed with give-away programs, take a look at socialized medicine."

If you guessed Jim DeMint, you could be forgiven. He talks a lot like this. But you’d be wrong. Newt Gingrich didn’t utter these precise words, either, although he uses much the same language and offers the same themes.

You’d also be wrong if you guessed Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, Tim Pawlenty, Ron Paul, Haley Barbour, John Thune, Mitt Romney, or Mitch Daniels. (Sarah Palin isn’t attending.)

But again, your mistake would be understandable because these words sound a lot like theirs. Any of them could have delivered this message – and all of them have, over and over again. It’s the Republican message of 2011.

The perfectly correct answer is Herbert Hoover.

Full article here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooverville
welcome to Hooverville

 

[patricknd]

Yeah, but almost nobody believed that BS.

i think red believed it, hence his disappointment