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Scott SoCal said:
By moving to a business climate that is less expensive?

Uh, you ain't real good at the maths are ya?

Dell employees don't buy dell computers any more..They live in China not the US..All the former employees of Dell and Apple and Compaq and HP combined are a market forsaken. Add to that cars and just about anything else you can think of..They better hope the world market buys their stuff..

They sure like those US stock exchanges though don't they?
 
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Dell employees don't buy dell computers any more..They live in China not the US..All the former employees of Dell and Apple and Compaq and HP combined are a market forsaken. Add to that cars and just about anything else you can think of..They better hope the world market buys their stuff..

They sure like those US stock exchanges though don't they?

Live Better. Work Union.
 
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Live Better. Work Union.

You'll be DBing Ireland and Switzerland when the corporate headquarters location du jour is Ghana and Cambodia. Maybe all the corporations will just willingly go out of business to avoid taxes. (go out of business because the nature of the business does not include 400 million dollar paychecks for a CEO)
 
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how funny is this?

""32 Corporations Spent More On Compensation For Top Executives In 2010 Than They Paid In Income Tax

Over the last few decades, executive pay at large corporations has skyrocketed. Today, American CEOs make 263 times the average compensation for American workers, up from the 30 to 1 ratio in the 1970s. In 2010 alone, CEO pay went up 27 percent while average worker pay went up just 2 percent.
At the same time, corporate tax revenue has plunged to historic lows. During the 1960s, for instance, the United States consistently raised nearly 4 percent of GDP in corporate revenue. During the 1970s, the total was still above 2.5 percent of GDP. But the U.S. now raises less than 1.5 percent of GDP from the corporate income tax.

According to a new report called “S.& P. 500 Executive Pay: Bigger Than …Whatever You Think It Is,” put together by the independent research firm R. G. Associates, there are currently 32 companies that actually spent more on compensation for their top executives in 2010 than they paid in corporate income taxes:

Total executive pay increased by 13.9 percent in 2010 among the 483 companies where data was available for the analysis. The total pay for those companies’ 2,591 named executives, before taxes, was $14.3 billion…Warming to his subject, Mr. Ciesielski also determined that 158 companies paid more in cash compensation to their top guys and gals last year than they paid in audit fees to their accounting firms. Thirty-two companies paid their top executives more in 2010 than they paid in cash income taxes.

This isn’t really surprising when you consider that several of the largest U.S. corporations simply paid no taxes at all last year. General Electric, for instance, made more than $5 billion last year, but had a tax rate of -64 percent, meaning it received billions in tax benefits. Boeing hasn’t paid any federal income tax in three years, while CEO Jim McNerny made $19 million last year.
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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/06/21/249949/32-corporations-spent-more-compensation-paid-taxes/
 
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how funny is this?


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It's pretty funny.
 
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Glenn_Wilson said:
#1 reason being that the Democrats and Republicans are .....FULL OF SHAT.

Go with the republicans..they hate government, think it doesn't work and will prove it every time.
 
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Hugh Januss said:
As funny as being the #1 reason our country is in the toilet.

So says the rep from the humorless wing of the American Left.

Lighten up. It won't kill you (at least I don't think it will).
 
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Nice quote from Bill Gross "Congress Get Back to Reality:

Both parties, in fact, are moving to anti-Keynesian policy orientations, which deny additional stimulus and make rather awkward and unsubstantiated claims that if you balance the budget, "they will come." It is envisioned that corporations or investors will somehow overnight be attracted to the revived competitiveness of the U.S. labor market: Politicians feel that fiscal conservatism equates to job growth. [...etc].

What's everyone's opinion on Huntsman for President? Does he stand a chance? He speaks Chinese too, which could be useful.
 
Alpe d'Huez said:
Meanwhile, an incredibly sad story.

Not even sure how to comment. Should be mandatory reading for everyone in America, and every political candidate for any office should have to discuss this story.

I already posted this through a la Repubblica link. It didn't provide all the details, but the story was the same. This is what is known here as a proverbial Americanata, a type of surreal thing one only encounters beyond the Atlantic.

This is why I have always said that in a civilized state, health is considered a social capital that belongs to the public domain and thus demands a public healthcare system.

This is so obvious to any society not dominated by the fanaticism of a savage capitalism and cult of a so called rational egoism.
 
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Scott SoCal said:
So says the rep from the humorless wing of the American Left.

Lighten up. It won't kill you (at least I don't think it will).

No good argument left time to break out the comedy and pretend I invented it. It is only funny if I laugh at it.
Yeah that Bill O'douchy is way funnier than Bill Maher, or Jon Stewart, or Al Franken, Janeane Garofalo, Lewis Black, or Steven Colbert.
Oh well I guess you guys got Dennis Miller, he was funny once.
 
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rhubroma said:
In fact the market speculation of sovereign debt for profit is what's really insane and appalling.

The problem here is financial capitalism, not the so called work ethic between north and south, which has been acting like a subterfuge against scapegoat nations to the benefit of a few and to the detriment of many. Or at least as big of a problem. And places like Switzerland, which in its "neutrality" allows for the mega-rich of the financial world to have a fiscal paradise and to thus be permitted to not fulfill their social responsibility.


1. Market speculation on sovereign debt. To talk about UK sovereign debt specifically, the Government's income is currently 25% less than its expenditure. That hole needs to be filled. So in effect the country is naked and tied up with its *** in the air hoping that no-one takes advantage. I assume, the same goes for most other so called developed countries.

2. Financial Capitalism. The trouble with the term you used is that it immediately creates an ideological wedge between people who are in complete agreement. You have on one side the political class and the financial class and the economically unaware; on the other is everybody else. The everybody else needs to find its voice, not get sidetracked by squabbling amongst themselves.

3. North vs South. The Greeks lied in order to get into the Eurozone, the North were complicit in allowing them to get away with it. Those that wanted a bigger EU state overrode all the barriers to entry despite the fact that those barriers were put there for a reason.

4. Regulation. Switzerland are one of many states that offer the corporate world the ability to hide their real business transactions from scrutiny and probably is less accommodating than most of them. Ireland's problems began when they offered German banks the opportunity to operate without any regulatory scrutiny at all. And look where it got them. Globalisation has a lot to answer for.
 
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Remember when?................................................

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Teachers feed at the public trough. Public employees feed at the public trough. Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS all feed at the public trough.

Lots of formerly private companies now feed at the public trough.

Can you spot a problem here? Perhaps the public trough is larger than it should be.

Pass it on.
 
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Scott SoCal said:
Teachers feed at the public trough. Public employees feed at the public trough. Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS all feed at the public trough.

"feed at the public trough"
I am sorry Scott but there is no other way to put this, when you talk that way, as far as I am concerned, you just come off like a total ******.
 
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Hugh Januss said:
"feed at the public trough"
I am sorry Scott but there is no other way to put this, when you talk that way, as far as I am concerned, you just come off like a total ******.


********* starts with an A ends in a C... There are places that can help though.
 
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Hugh Januss said:
"feed at the public trough"
I am sorry Scott but there is no other way to put this, when you talk that way, as far as I am concerned, you just come off like a total ******.

I did not realize you were that delicate.

I withdraw that characterization. I will restate... "dependent on the public largess". :)

How about the point? Has govt become too large in your view?
 
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Scott SoCal said:
I did not realize you were that delicate.

I withdraw that characterization. I will restate... "dependent on the public largess". :)

How about the point? Has govt become too large in your view?

unlike you who only transverses the world through your very own efforts.
 
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