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Yes, this country has had a problem with illegal immigration for years. It was definitely a much more serious problem long ago than it is today. Just ask the Native Americans.
 
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Yes, this country has had a problem with illegal immigration for years. It was definitely a much more serious problem long ago than it is today. Just ask the Native Americans.

I was in a store the other day and a slovenly(R) woman was checking out in front of me and she swiped her credit card and it asked "english or spanish" and she started going off on the cashier about it..He just blew her off and let her rant about how people coming to this country ought to learn "our" language..The irony of "our language" being ENGLISH is completely lost of HER KIND... After she finished the cashier told me that his ancestors thought her ancestors should have learned Cherokee if they wanted to live here in this country.

bwahhhhaaaaa
 
Had a family of folks from Florida to show around Ostia the other day. When I asked them were they were from in Florida, guessing Miami, the woman responded: Miami? That's not even America, they don't speak english!

Have we really been reduced to this level?
 
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I fear we have. The issue may not be that there are so many economic conservatives like Scott, it's that there are enough lunatic tea baggers out there who flock to Michelle Bachman like sheep, that it justifies their ignorance.

Not that there aren't enough idiotic liberals, there's plenty of those, that only adds to the overall problem. I just don't see as many to offset it politically.
 
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I fear we have. The issue may not be that there are so many economic conservatives like Scott, it's that there are enough lunatic tea baggers out there who flock to Michelle Bachman like sheep, that it justifies their ignorance.

Not that there aren't enough idiotic liberals, there's plenty of those, that only adds to the overall problem. I just don't see as many to offset it politically.

I don't know why you throw that in..A tree hugger is not likely to be any kind of liberal activist or get any airtime at all compared to conservative crackpots..Scott is not an economic conservative or fiscal conservative..He's just a liar with a dump truck full of heritage and cato bull s***. David Duke will soon be spouting the same scottisms to hide his truth..
 
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I got 6 ounces of cole slaw..that might be exploited harvest.. but then I rode my catholic bicycle for 2 hrs and didn't contribute to Exxon/Mobile during that time or add to traffic jams or exhaust emissions.... and I didn't even get swerved at by any teabaggers. Drinking some filtered municipal tap water now..

as long as you're keeping it balanced
 
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I don't know why you throw that in..A tree hugger is not likely to be any kind of liberal activist or get any airtime at all compared to conservative crackpots..Scott is not an economic conservative or fiscal conservative..He's just a liar with a dump truck full of heritage and cato bull s***. David Duke will soon be spouting the same scottisms to hide his truth..

Liar? You mean like the IRS data? Hell, even Bill Clinton is coming around to my positions on tax policy. Of course Bill Clinton IS a liar. Not that you'd know the difference.

Nice KKK reference. You don't want to go too many posts without one. Coward much?

At some point you may want to consider pulling your head out of your ***.
 
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Conservative Prayer

Our Corporations, which createth heaven,
hallowed be thy names.
Thy Kingdoms come, thy wills be done,
Through NAFTA as it is in the G7.
Give us this day our tiny dole.
And forgive us those who ask for more,
as we forget them that fought for living wages.
And lead us not into labor unions
but deliver us from regulation.
For thy art Holy Mammon,
the power, and the money,
for ever and ever.

Amen.
 
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Liar? You mean like the IRS data? Hell, even Bill Clinton is coming around to my positions on tax policy. Of course Bill Clinton IS a liar. Not that you'd know the difference.

Nice KKK reference. You don't want to go too many posts without one. Coward much?

At some point you may want to consider pulling your head out of your ***.


While Clinton expressed support for proposals that would cut tax rates to encourage companies to repatriate profits from overseas, he cautioned what happened the last time that was done, under President George W. Bush.

Almost none of that money was reinvested in the American economy,” Clinton said.
 
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While Clinton expressed support for proposals that would cut tax rates to encourage companies to repatriate profits from overseas, he cautioned what happened the last time that was done, under President George W. Bush.

Almost none of that money was reinvested in the American economy,” Clinton said.

CEO's understand the difference between a temporary tax break and a permanent one. You can't take on a bunch of obligations today and have the rate go back up next year and think the results will be any different.

If the US corporate tax rates are now uncompetitive as Bubba suggests then why make a temporary change?

It's a rhetorical question, but I'm curious to what your answer might be.
 
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CEO's understand the difference between a temporary tax break and a permanent one. You can't take on a bunch of obligations today and have the rate go back up next year and think the results will be any different.

If the US corporate tax rates are now uncompetitive as Bubba suggests then why make a temporary change?

It's a rhetorical question, but I'm curious to what your answer might be.

I think it is just fstupid.. heavy on the f.. Who wouldn't like a tax freeze for all kinds of multiple reasons? The "make it permanent" rhetoric is designed to immunize persons and corporate "persons" from the demands of taxation leaving others without such consideration to make up the difference. How bout this scotty you smf.. how bout corporate taxes get cut just above your business' highest possible revenue and make it permanent to NEVER include you? You can move to Liechtenstein ..no one will miss you.
 
What's this I hear about no income tax in Texas? Is that the entire state? Or certain counties?

And what about the privitazation of certain development communities, which pay no state taxes, but only a "membership fee", for which things like law enforcement and education are then contracted out to the state?

Scott, why don't you move to Houston?
 
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What's this I hear about no income tax in Texas? Is that the entire state? Or certain counties?

And what about the privitazation of certain development communities, which pay no state taxes, but only a "membership fee", for which things like law enforcement and education are then contracted out to the state?

Scott, why don't you move to Houston?

Houston sux, no offense.:D
 
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I think it is just fstupid.. heavy on the f.. Who wouldn't like a tax freeze for all kinds of multiple reasons? The "make it permanent" rhetoric is designed to immunize persons and corporate "persons" from the demands of taxation leaving others without such consideration to make up the difference. How bout this scotty you smf.. how bout corporate taxes get cut just above your business' highest possible revenue and make it permanent to NEVER include you? You can move to Liechtenstein ..no one will miss you.

What do you have against Liechtenstein?

You really are a pleasant fellow.

"demands of taxation"... I really like this. You dream this up yourself?

All you have is demands....

no one will miss you
Oh, I disagree. I pay into the system that keeps you "comfortable".
 
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What do you have against Liechtenstein?

You really are a pleasant fellow.

"demands of taxation"... I really like this. You dream this up yourself?

All you have is demands....

Oh, I disagree. I pay into the system that keeps you "comfortable".

I don't owe you a gd thing.. I was paying in when you were a little ninja turtle who thought motocross bikes got left under the tree by santa claus.
 
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I don't owe you a gd thing.. I was paying in when you were a little ninja turtle who thought motocross bikes got left under the tree by santa claus.

You miss-understand. I owe you. Everybody owes you.
 
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What's this I hear about no income tax in Texas? Is that the entire state? Or certain counties?

And what about the privitazation of certain development communities, which pay no state taxes, but only a "membership fee", for which things like law enforcement and education are then contracted out to the state?

Scott, why don't you move to Houston?

Texas does not have a state income tax. Alot of other states don't either, though I don't know the number offhand. Florida doesn't either, for example.

Not sure what your point is??
 
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Texas does not have a state income tax. Alot of other states don't either, though I don't know the number offhand. Florida doesn't either, for example.

Not sure what your point is??

My point was that for those that don't like to pay taxes and think that the private sector should handle all the finances, such as Scott, then perhaps Texas is a good place to live. Though it wasn't just about not paying income taxes, but also not paying property tax as well, though I didn't actually indicate property tax.
 
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My point was that for those that don't like to pay taxes and think that the private sector should handle all the finances, such as Scott, then perhaps Texas is a good place to live. Though it wasn't just about not paying income taxes, but also not paying property tax as well, though I didn't actually indicate property tax.

TEXAS
Sales Taxes
State Sales Tax: 6.25% (non-prepared food, prescription and non-prescription drugs exempt); local option taxes can raise the rate to 8.25%.
Gasoline Tax: 20 cents/gallon
Diesel Fuel Tax: 20 cents/gallon
Cigarette Tax: $1.41 cents/pack of 20

Personal Income Taxes
No state personal income tax
Retirement Income: Not taxed.

Property Taxes
Property tax is imposed by local taxing units. For homeowners 65 and older, $10,000 (in addition to the regular $15,000 homestead exemption) of the property's assessed value is exempt from school taxes and $3,000 is exempt from other local taxes. Once an over-65 homeowner qualifies for an over-65 homestead exemption for school taxes, that owner gets a tax ceiling for that home on school taxes. If the homeowner improves the home (other than normal repairs or maintenance), the tax ceiling is adjusted for the new additions. School district taxes are frozen for seniors (65 and older) and disabled persons at the level imposed on the residence the first year that the taxpayer qualified for the residence exemption. Counties, cities, towns, and junior college districts are permitted to establish a tax freeze on homesteads of those age 65 and older or disabled. For more information on exemptions, click here.

Inheritance and Estate Taxes
There is no inheritance and the estate tax is limited and related to federal estate tax collection.
 
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Obama will not be re-elected. You heard it here first.

Payrolls increased by just 18,000 in June, the Labor Department said in its monthly jobs report, released this morning. That's even fewer than May's anemic total, which in today's report was revised from 54,000 down to 25,000.

The overall unemployment figure ticked up slightly to 9.2 percent, from 9.1 percent. There are now 14.1 million Americans officially counted as unemployed. Millions more are out of work but don't show up in the numbers, after they'd grown discouraged and stopped looking for a job.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/june-swoon-economy-added-almost-no-jobs-last-125737430.html


In other news is Obama's golf handicap is falling and expected to be in the low teens by the time he's voted out of office.
 
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TEXAS
Sales Taxes
State Sales Tax: 6.25% (non-prepared food, prescription and non-prescription drugs exempt); local option taxes can raise the rate to 8.25%.
Gasoline Tax: 20 cents/gallon
Diesel Fuel Tax: 20 cents/gallon
Cigarette Tax: $1.41 cents/pack of 20

Personal Income Taxes
No state personal income tax
Retirement Income: Not taxed.

Property Taxes
Property tax is imposed by local taxing units. For homeowners 65 and older, $10,000 (in addition to the regular $15,000 homestead exemption) of the property's assessed value is exempt from school taxes and $3,000 is exempt from other local taxes. Once an over-65 homeowner qualifies for an over-65 homestead exemption for school taxes, that owner gets a tax ceiling for that home on school taxes. If the homeowner improves the home (other than normal repairs or maintenance), the tax ceiling is adjusted for the new additions. School district taxes are frozen for seniors (65 and older) and disabled persons at the level imposed on the residence the first year that the taxpayer qualified for the residence exemption. Counties, cities, towns, and junior college districts are permitted to establish a tax freeze on homesteads of those age 65 and older or disabled. For more information on exemptions, click here.

Inheritance and Estate Taxes
There is no inheritance and the estate tax is limited and related to federal estate tax collection.

Yea, but I met a guy recently from Houston who lives in some private development and, rather than pay property tax, he pays a "membership fee."
 
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""Caterpillar Inc. used offshore subsidiaries in Switzerland and Bermuda to avoid about $2 billion in U.S. taxes from 2000 to 2009, boosting its earnings through a “tax and financial statement fraud,” according to a Caterpillar executive’s lawsuit.

The company, the world’s largest construction-equipment maker, sold and shipped spare parts globally from an Illinois warehouse while improperly attributing at least $5.6 billion of profits from those sales to a unit in Geneva, according to the suit filed by Daniel J. Schlicksup. He was a global tax strategy manager for Caterpillar from 2005 to 2008.

Schlicksup, 49, sued in U.S. District Court in Peoria, Illinois, in 2009, claiming he was moved to a job that limits his career opportunities because he complained to superiors that the “Swiss Structure” ran afoul of U.S. tax rules. He’s seeking a court order to give him back his old job and prevent any retaliation. He also seeks stock options that he claims were wrongly withheld as well as legal fees and punitive damages.

His lawsuit, which calls the structure a “tax dodge,” followed a request for job protection he filed with the U.S. Department of Labor under provisions of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, court records show. The law bars retaliation against corporate whistleblowers. Schlicksup declined to comment for this story. His attorney, Dan O’Day, declined to say whether Schlicksup has taken his concerns to the Internal Revenue Service. ""
 
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Yea, but I met a guy recently from Houston who lives in some private development and, rather than pay property tax, he pays a "membership fee."

Then that means he is renting. If he owned the property he would have to pay property taxes, which includes local taxes such as utilities, county taxes, etc, as well as school taxes which are the most. Renters pay none of that, even if the rent each month is called something fancy like "membership fee" lol. The renter has to pay taxes on the dwellings he rents. Trust me, somebody is paying taxes on that propery.

Whenever you hear something incredulous rubarb just post it here and we will clear it up for you.
 
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