World Politics

[FoxxyBrown1111]

But... but, people like Kissinger seems so friendly and grandpa like

I meant the executer Westmorland, the General and his tactic of seek and destroy...
Anyway, you are right, so lets talk about all those democratic warmongers like Kissinger, who need psychos like Westmoreland "who do the job".
OTOH, I personally think Kissinger is a psycho himself, like Stalin.
... The only difference, Kissinger is a peacful fighter with a nobel prize.

 

[python]

http://www.brookings.edu/events/201...s/LatestFromBrookings+(Latest+From+Brookings)

it is rare nowadays when a western source would give a balanced, rhetoric-free assessment of what really happened in ukraine, what motivated the russians and where the sides may go from now.

if you have a real, non-partisan, fluff-free interest in what happened , i strongly recommend this webcas from the brookings institution. . i consider the brookings a fair (if not the only american) middle-of-the-road player. the discussion panel included people who know what they say as opposed to various policy pushers from either side with slavic accents.

it is jut under 1:30 h long.

 

[RetroActive]

Corbett Report: The Enemy of My Enemy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArfFl-Zke04

 

[Echoes]

Agent Orange is not just about death, it's mostly about being born, with diverse malformation (for some unspeakable horrors, the teratogenic effects).

It's about the destruction of 50% of crops and 55% of Forests in South Vietnam. It'll take centuries to recover.

There's talk about an estimation of 4 million victims, and every day there are new ones.

It's not just about Kissinger. The first use of rainbow agents was under JFK. I already told about this: http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1369759&postcount=16

First use of Agent Orange, in 1965 under Johnson.

It's also about the pharmaceutical industry (Monsanto, Dow Chemicals) who sold the stuff, fully aware of its extreme poisonousness.


There's a morality to it. The Vietnam War was won by the religious. Pr. André Bouny showed very well that beyond the communist ideology of the Vietminh, the Vietcongs were still influenced by their Buddhist faith and they were able to sacrifice for a greater ideal, while the GI's did not believe in anything, only that their technology would save them, period.

And in the end "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

For german posters here who still give something about Germany (the other europeans should also do something BTW):

Petition against the TTIP (free trade with USA, which means, in one hammer like short sentence: "all rights for multis, none for taxpayers and consumers")

http://www.egon-w-kreutzer.de/

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

It's not just about Kissinger. The first use of rainbow agents was under JFK.

You are right. But Kissinger was/is one of the worst terrorists ever. The mad bomber of Cambodia had to be mentioned...

Anyway, JFK, campaign financed by the mob, wasn´t much better.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Western democracy.

(That's a picture from the Rada of the vote on the new president)

One man two votes!

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Western democracy.

(That's a picture from the Rada of the vote on the new president)

One man two votes!

Love it.

Out for lunch today, reversing roles tomorrow.

 

[blutto]

Western democracy.

(That's a picture from the Rada of the vote on the new president)

One man two votes!

...you were being polite...it may, given the voting machines available, be actually be closer to six votes....gosh ain't democracy grand...

Cheers

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I still think USA is the best country. And they have the fairest Govt, they are the guardian of the free world and democracy.

 

[python]

The former president is scheduled to speak today in three hours ...I speculate he will be talking about the snipers. As in his first appearance the Russians are using him to send some kind of a message

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

I still think USA is the best country. And they have the fairest Govt, they are the guardian of the free world and democracy.

Good joke. But next time please inform people that the post is meant sarcastic (even me, I almost fell into your trap).

 

[python]

yanukovich just finished talking...unlike at his 1st post-putsch appearance, he only made statements and did not take questions. his rhetoric was far more combative and harsh...appealed to the west to stop supporting the fascists before it is too late...warned the kiev govt of facing consequences of their crimes very soon. talked about the ukrainian army 'taking care' of the putschists very soon..

overall, i did not hear anything new, except more decibels.

 

[blutto]

...more of that new fangled democratic outreach stuff on the march...pretty soon we will all be up to our armpits in this stuff and life will be grand...

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Saudi Arabia threatens to blockade Qatar over terrorism

Source: Irish Times

Saudi Arabia has threatened to blockade neighbouring Qatar by air, land and sea unless Doha cuts ties with Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, closes global channel al-Jazeera, and expels local branches of the US Brookings Institution and Rand Corporation think tanks.

The threat was issued by Riyadh before it withdrew its ambassador to Doha and branded as “terrorist organisations” the brotherhood, Lebanon’s Hizbullah and al-Qaeda-linked Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and Jabhat al-Nusra.

Although the kingdom has long been the font of Sunni ultra-orthodox Salafism and jihadism, it now seeks to contain radical movements and media and other organisations giving them publicity.

King Abdullah has decreed that any Saudi who fights abroad could be jailed for 20-30 years, and those who join, endorse or provide moral or material support to groups classified as “terrorist” or “extremist” will risk prison sentences of five to 30 years.

Read more: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...ns-to-blockade-qatar-over-terrorism-1.1719434

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Cheers

 

[Zam_Olyas]

 

[RetroActive]

The CA bubble that isn’t from California: Canadians come face to face with the paradox of golden real estate handcuffs and a younger less affluent generation.
http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/...al-estate-prices-generational-gaps-in-wealth/

It's positively Pavlovian.

Thank you Bank for International Settlements.

Please save us International Monetary Fund! - sarcasm (sort of), hello CMHC (taxpayers) though.

Markets hold breath as China's shadow banking grinds to a halt
Fresh loans in China’s shadow banking system evaporated to almost nothing from $160bn in January
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...s-Chinas-shadow-banking-grinds-to-a-halt.html

G'Day Australia?

 

[Le breton]

Newfoundland

Not to worry guys about Crimea, it was just a GPS blunder.
Plus the wind blew them there when they would have preferred Newfoundland
as I discovered just now (preparing for St Patrick's day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwF8wDzwacI

 

[rhubroma]

The financial war is about to begin. I'm interested to see what Putin's next move will be. Of course not sanctioning the Russian oligarchs' in London, does make the whole sordid affair a bit of a farce.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/11/eu-tells-russia-start-ukraine-talks-or-face-sanctions?CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

 

[python]

all developments and all moves by russia point clearly to the fact that NO set of sanctions, threats or bluster will have them alter their obvious intention - the quickest possible absorption of crimea (call it annexation whatever )...

anyone still blustering or thinking that russia will listen to threats are not just misreading putin - they are fools. the us is obviously governed by the political mental midgets... sending 12 fighter plains to poland was answered by the announcement of 4,000 russian paramilitary to those borders...announcing AWACS patrols was answered by their closure of crimea airspace and sending their own AWACS there...to think that playing with travel restrictions or a few bank accounts will somehow stop the clearly demonstrated intentions, is beyond silly.

many likened the developments to chess. if so, then putin's move was a gambit. he apparently decided that the risks of any sanctions, loss of trade etc was worth the gains, perceived or real.

we shall see if he miscalculated. when ? i reckon within 3-5 years.declaring that he blundered or won is too early.

 

[blutto]

The financial war is about to begin. I'm interested to see what Putin's next move will be. Of course not sanctioning the Russian oligarchs' in London, does make the whole sordid affair a bit of a farce.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/11/eu-tells-russia-start-ukraine-talks-or-face-sanctions?CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

....oh silly silly you...of course they would never sanction the oligarchistical elements of society that is Mother Russia....they are, after all, paragons of free market thinking and sugar and spice and everything nice and so on and so forth into infinity...as such they are a very important part of the solution to any problem that currently plagues godless socialistical societies ( such as that led by that ace-number-one anti-Christ, Putin )....everybody knows that ( I mean look at the heaven on Earth that the oligarchs have produced in The Ukraine...and they did that out of just the goodness in their hearts thru old-fashioned hard work and perseverance ...ok ok with just a little smidgen of profit, though just to cover costs, y'understand...but you get the idea...)...very surprised you don't know those oblivious facts, in fact massively disappointed ( so disappointed that I'm going to go to the loo and cry my eyes out )....

...there, aren't we all glad I straightened that out for you...

...now just move on.... nothing to see here....and go immediately back to your regular programmed programming, Vlad bad, democratistical revolution best thing since sliced Wonder Bread ( with Welches and Skippy of course )....and last but certainly not least, this is not farce but very serious business, very very serious business...

Cheers

 

[rhubroma]

....oh silly silly you...of course they would never sanction the oligarchistical elements of society that is Mother Russia....they are, after all, paragons of free market thinking and sugar and spice and everything nice and so on and so forth into infinity...as such they are a very important part of the solution to any problem that currently plagues godless socialistical societies ( such as that led by that ace-number-one anti-Christ, Putin )....everybody knows that ( I mean look at the heaven on Earth that the oligarchs have produced in The Ukraine...and they did that out of just the goodness in their hearts thru old-fashioned hard work and perseverance ...ok ok with just a little smidgen of profit, though just to cover costs, y'understand...but you get the idea...)...very surprised you don't know those oblivious facts, in fact massively disappointed ( so disappointed that I'm going to go to the loo and cry my eyes out )....

...there, aren't we all glad I straightened that out for you...

...now just move on.... nothing to see here....and go immediately back to your regular programmed programming, Vlad bad, democratistical revolution best thing since sliced Wonder Bread ( with Welches and Skippy of course )....and last but certainly not least, this is not farce but very serious business, very very serious business...

Cheers

Yea, well, I get that the prevailing interests determine the extent of the sanctions, but as you suggest it's surely hypocrisy that the free market pundits in London refuse to exact sanctions against a most currupt gang of robber barrons.

Hardly surprising though.

At the same time I'm left wondering would it even be possible to freeze assets of US bearers of freedom and democracy. And how is it possible that one country has so much power? I rhetorically ask myself.

 

[python]

i just came across some ground breaking select pieces from an extensive interview with the head of the ukrainian secret service... full interview will be broadcast in 30 minutes and the follow up articles will likely not appearing in major news until tomorrow

- he talks of direct evidence that the snipers were linked to one specific opposition group, specifies places they shot from, their numbers and moves as registered by his agents
- talks about direct evidence that the extreme opposition was financed and inspired by the united states
- talks about the bases they were trained at - poland, latvia....others
- talks about some surveillance operations his agency was involved in tracking the militants...more later

 

[RetroActive]

So now we have one of our own billionaire break-up, break-down, shake-down and balkanize artiste stirring things up. Round three.

Péladeau: ‘I’ve always been a sovereigntist and I will remain one’
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...gntist-and-i-will-remain-one/article17421456/

The head of Québecor Inc. and its media entities was a Canadian nationalist that day. But it appears that, deep in his heart, he was the same Quebec separatist who launched his political career next to Parti Québécois Leader Pauline Marois on Sunday.

“I’ve always been a sovereigntist and I will remain one,” the 52-year-old rookie politician told reporters on Monday. “But business is business.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3UqvWk8-uw

 

[blutto]

And how is it possible that one country has so much power? I rhetorically ask myself.

...that is one of the big questions isn't it?....like trying to square the circle on the West response to The Ukraine when Kosovo, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Bahrain and Syria are still very fairly fresh history...

....might makes right in the immediate present tense?....and mop up the messy bits after the fact with a quick wash and spin cycle, then a quick polish and presto zesto a shiny new reality?...

...though the thing that is a little different in the most case is that the "guys with the white hats" don't enjoy the huge advantage in the media aspect of the conflict they had in the other cases I mentioned above....in this case the "contrast state" hit the alternative media almost immediately whereas in the other cases it was lagging badly behind the timeframe of realtime events that made up the conflict ( as a result the critical commentary in those cases lost a great deal of its impact because the events that inspired the commentary were long gone...as in they were very much fait accompli and hence could not be easily reversed and also had also faded from the memories of the general public...which could, if properly informed, have a considerable potential impact... )

Cheers

 

[blutto]

i just came across some ground breaking select pieces from an extensive interview with the head of the ukrainian secret service... full interview will be broadcast in 30 minutes and the follow up articles will likely not appearing in major news until tomorrow

- he talks of direct evidence that the snipers were linked to one specific opposition group, specifies places they shot from, their numbers and moves as registered by his agents
- talks about direct evidence that the extreme opposition was financed and inspired by the united states
- talks about the bases they were trained at - poland, latvia....others
- talks about some surveillance operations his agency was involved in tracking the militants...more later

...would be very interesting to rewatch the video that the CBC showed of the "glorious revolutionaries'" sniper nest in view of this new information...

Cheers