World Politics

[python]

Ok, that's what I thought, just wanted to clarify.

i love comedy.. but when i see politicians of any colour playing with simple folks basic intelligence, i turn to irony, perhaps a notch above irony. here's the latest example. it turns out according to putin's spokesman, vlad was just informed of the crimean parliament decisiion

tell me, how this cynicism is any different from the idiotic statements by kerry about the invasions and the 19th century or ignoring that there are 2 ukraines and that 1/2 from the west that grabbed power is dragging another 1/2 in the direction it objects ? or ignoring the putch sniper ? etc etc

they all are neck-deep in dirty tricks and clearly, vlad is doing what was america's exclusive domain.

they grabbed kosovo - he replied by grabbing abkhazia and s. osetia

they grabbed kiev - he replied by grabbing crimea.

the law of the jungle as it ever was. except putin is no longer a pray but one of those who pray.

if uncle sam keeps insisting he's still the only bully in town, he stands to lose a 2 teeth while being proud of hitting 3 teeth of the bro bully.

 

[blutto]

"Crimea’s parliament unanimously voted in favour of becoming part of Russia on Thursday, RIA news agency said, citing the text of the decision. It was agreed “to enter into the Russian Federation with the rights of a subject of the Russian Federation”, the text said." Reuters

....and apparently a referendum is to be held next week on March 16th....will be quite difficult to put the genie back in the bottle now as it looks like Crimea has left the building....and no amount of visa restrictions by the US ( the latest strike against the Evil Empire of Vlad ) is gonna bring it back anytime soon...

Cheers

 

[blutto]

....the US fights back....now carrying the fight to those dastardly Crimeans who just won't listen to reason and join some scum Nazis in enjoying a life-time of imposed austerity...

US Announces Visa Restrictions on Russians

1 hr ago - The White House is imposing visa restrictions on Russians and Crimeans who it says are "threatening the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine." In addition, President Barack Obama has signed an executive order authorizing sanctions agains ... (Associated Press)

Cheers

 

[blutto]

....find below a video that shows one of the options open to Crimeans...and do note the wild enthusiasm of the assembled/seated citizens when dealing with the glorious revolutionaries, just unbridled joy it is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9fKIq8fE1CE

Cheers

 

[rhubroma]

i love comedy.. but when i see politicians of any colour playing with simple folks basic intelligence, i turn to irony, perhaps a notch above irony. here's the latest example. it turns out according to putin's spokesman, vlad was just informed of the crimean parliament decisiion

tell me, how this cynicism is any different from the idiotic statements by kerry about the invasions and the 19th century or ignoring that there are 2 ukraines and that 1/2 from the west that grabbed power is dragging another 1/2 in the direction it objects ? or ignoring the putch sniper ? etc etc

they all are neck-deep in dirty tricks and clearly, vlad is doing what was america's exclusive domain.

they grabbed kosovo - he replied by grabbing abkhazia and s. osetia

they grabbed kiev - he replied by grabbing crimea.

the law of the jungle as it ever was. except putin is no longer a pray but one of those who pray.

if uncle sam keeps insisting he's still the only bully in town, he stands to lose a 2 teeth while being proud of hitting 3 teeth of the bro bully.

Or Far West. No, really, what I can't support is the Cold War mentality still being employed, from both camps.

You'd have thought by now, after that dreadful experience, our political leaders could have imagined a different strategy. Evidently it's still profitable to perpetuate the conflict.

Evidently the aggressors need their prey.

 

[Amsterhammer]

Yup.

 

[kingjr]

That's very creative.

 

[RetroActive]

 

[blutto]

...match point...and game...and now we are moving to the semi-finals...

Cheers

 

[python]

'cry me a river' was brilliant

some other developments ...crimea is being integrated already at a feverish pace. they have requested ruble to replace hrivna, any government property is nationalized. the last one opens a huge can of warms if the ukrainian navy ships are also the subject of nationalization ? we know that some are simply blockaded by the russian navy together with their crews.

it seems that the biggest obstacle to the complete integration is that 9 of 31 uki military units in the peninsula refused to change sides. allegedly, this is about 10,000 armed personnel.

also, even if the 16 march referendum will be pro-russian, the official absorption can not take place until the russian constitution is changed....


i just watched a ukrainian general talking on the ubc channel, he promised armed resistance.

 

[RetroActive]

Russia prepares bill on foreign asset freeze in reply to sanctions – senator
http://rt.com/politics/russia-asset-freeze-sanctions-897/

The Russian Foreign Ministry said in its official comment that US politicians are losing an accurateperception of real state of affairs in the 21st century. “Moscow has explained to the Americans, repeatedly and demonstrably, why their one-sided punitive measures are not matching the standards of civilized relations between nations. If this fails to take effect, we will have to retaliate, and not necessarily in a mirror way,” the ministry’s spokesman Aleksandr Lukashevich said.

 

[blutto]

Russia prepares bill on foreign asset freeze in reply to sanctions – senator
http://rt.com/politics/russia-asset-freeze-sanctions-897/

...there is also the possibility of moving against the use of the US dollar as a reserve currency....and given the state of the US debt/GDP ratio ( which is among the highest in the world ) that could wreak some serious havoc on the house of cards that is the US economic system ( one of the few things that is currently keeping it afloat is the use of the US dollar as a reserve currency...pull that pin and major mega $hit could happen...)...

...and here is some political sniping......

Exclusive: Russia wants IMF to move ahead on reforms without U.S. - sources

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-...-ahead-reforms-without-160025340--sector.html

Cheers

 

[RetroActive]

...there is also the possibility of moving against the use of the US dollar as a reserve currency....and given the state of the US debt/GDP ratio ( which is among the highest in the world ) that could wreak some serious havoc on the house of cards that in the US economic system ( one of the few things that is currently keeping it afloat is the use of the US dollar as a reserve currency...pull that pin and major mega $hit could happen...)...

...and here is some political sniping......

Exclusive: Russia wants IMF to move ahead on reforms without U.S. - sources

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-...-ahead-reforms-without-160025340--sector.html

Cheers

That's at the top of the list, imo. I'm not sure we want to find out just how fragile this system is but one way or another...unsustainable means just that.

US imposes visa restrictions on Russian officials as Obama signs sanctions order
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/06/us-visa-restrictions-officials-ukraine-russia

US officials also insist they are not worried about retaliatory sanctions, claiming Russia’s “fragile economy” has “unique vulnerability.”

Currency wars - check
Trade wars - check
Shooting wars -

 

[python]

^ gentlemen, pls come back to earth.

putin is too shrewd engaging in a war he can not win, i mean a currency war.

as i pointed once before, of course this is just an opinion and could be wrong, russia with its relatively small economic weight, without china, can not cause a dollar collapse. this is not to say that they are more than capable to drive a horror into the wall street currency traders to pressure the politicians against the excessive hawkishness with sanctions...

china has shown its extreme caution by being perfectly neural throughout all un security council debates. it was the 1st time in a long time they let it known that russia would have to veto a resolution alone if the resolution was brought to a vote.

a trade war that russia can hold its own ? absolutely. particularly with europe.

it went virtually unnoticed how quickly the new fund-poor uki govt made sure it payed its january bills to gasprom for natural gas. why ? b/c europe still remembers the gas wars and quietly underwritten the ukrainia gas bills as a part of europe's assistance package. this was not in the western media.

as i said before, the american political-corporate machine acts predictably - subject to euphoric fits of bombastic sanctions due to feeling superior, to be later cooled by a panic of losing profits and markets.

the careful observers with economic intelligence have exploited this greed/fear cycle many times. underestimating putin boys is not good.

 

[RetroActive]

^ gentlemen, pls come back to earth.

putin is too shrewd engaging in a war he can not win, i mean a currency war.

as i pointed once before, of course this is just an opinion and could be wrong, russia with its relatively small economic weight, without china, can not cause a dollar collapse. this is not to say that they are more than capable to drive a horror into the wall street currency traders to pressure the politicians against the excessive hawkishness with sanctions...

china has shown its extreme caution by being perfectly neural throughout all un security council debates. it was the 1st time in a long time they let it known that russia would have to veto a resolution alone if the resolution was brought to a vote.

a trade war that russia can hold its own ? absolutely. particularly with europe.

it went virtually unnoticed how quickly the new fund-poor uki govt made sure it payed its january bills to gasprom for natural gas. why ? b/c europe still remembers the gas wars and quietly underwritten the ukrainia gas bills as a part of europe's assistance package. this was not in the western media.

as i said before, the american political-corporate machine acts predictably - subject to euphoric fits of bombastic sanctions due to feeling superior, to be later cooled by a panic of losing profits and markets.

the careful observers with economic intelligence have exploited this greed/fear cycle many times. underestimating putin boys is not good.

People have been talking about currency wars for quite some time now.
https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en-...0...1.1.34.heirloom-hp..0.13.1702.k1bNMHUoGbo

You're right though, nobody knows what will happen but it's obviously getting more rough and tumble.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

i love comedy.. but when i see politicians of any colour playing with simple folks basic intelligence, i turn to irony, perhaps a notch above irony. here's the latest example. it turns out according to putin's spokesman, vlad was just informed of the crimean parliament decisiion

tell me, how this cynicism is any different from the idiotic statements by kerry about the invasions and the 19th century or ignoring that there are 2 ukraines and that 1/2 from the west that grabbed power is dragging another 1/2 in the direction it objects ? or ignoring the putch sniper ? etc etc

they all are neck-deep in dirty tricks and clearly, vlad is doing what was america's exclusive domain.

they grabbed kosovo - he replied by grabbing abkhazia and s. osetia

they grabbed kiev - he replied by grabbing crimea.

the law of the jungle as it ever was. except putin is no longer a pray but one of those who pray.

if uncle sam keeps insisting he's still the only bully in town, he stands to lose a 2 teeth while being proud of hitting 3 teeth of the bro bully.

But you shall not forget who gave the blueprint: USA.
If I was Putin, I would pay back inch by inch too...

Just wait for when McCain calls out for Peacekeepers to keep the peace... Oh well, they don´t have. Ok how about Minutemen.

As I said some days ago; If Russia didn´t own Topols, USA long ago would just have run over Russia in the name of "freedom"...

 

[blutto]

....Canada's response to the upcoming Crimean referendum...( gawd this is getting embarrassing, first Baird making an *** out of himself in Kiev and now this...to quote Bugs Bunny, what a maroooon... )

Canada won't recognize Crimea referendum results, Harper says

...from.. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/cana...ferendum-crimea-stephen-harper-190315888.html

Cheers

 

[hfer07]

all points apparently taken in consideration here, but has anybody mention the "Chinese" side of the equation?

 

[blutto]

....geez is it possible gifts from the glorious revolution are raining on the Ukrainian people already....I mean its not even close to Christmas...

...some comments on the fun and frivolity that the glorious revolution is/will be bringing to The Ukraine are to be found in the article linked below....and here are a few teasers...

" According to a report in Kommersant-Ukraine, the finance ministry of Washington’s stooges in Kiev who are pretending to be a government has prepared an economic austerity plan that will cut Ukrainian pensions from $160 to $80 so that Western bankers who lent money to Ukraine can be repaid at the expense of Ukraine’s poor. http://www.kommersant.ua/doc/2424454 "

...and...

"The leaders of the protesting Russians are being arrested and disappeared. Washington and its EU puppets, who proclaim their support for self-determination, are only for self-determination when it can be orchestrated in their favor. Therefore, Washington is busy at work suppressing self-determination in eastern Ukraine"

...so the glorious revolution could become known as delicious gumbo of treats drawn from recent history in Syria and Greece....sounds special, very special....and with just enough democratic seasoning to make it palatable ....

...from.. http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/06/looting-ukraine-begun/ ( and yeah Mr Roberts is considered by some to be a crazy old coot but he has been "righter" in his writing than anybody in the Western MSM...so you may have to take him with a grain of salt but ignore him at your peril... )

Cheers

 

[darwin553]

TBH I was surprised it took so long for Putin to get involved.

 

[python]

TBH I was surprised it took so long for Putin to get involved.

he was involved all along. understand, he sure had some contingency plans but as is often the case, the plans dont always match the 'situation on the ground' as it develops.

it is not difficult to see the increasing degree of putin's disappointment as the events kept creeping from bad to worse. recall, yanukovich kept offering the opposition everything they asked for except his resignation. finally, on 21 february there was an agreement brokered and signed by poland, germany and france. putin was there but in the background. the only thing he could do, which is not much, was to postpone the emergence of the viciously russo-phobic govt. when it became clear he failed at that, that russia has lost all influence in kiev, he switched to the 'proportional negative response' tactic. note how crimea date for a referendum and the the questions put to a vote changed - from autonomy to the outright annexation. imo, it was a response to the western gov't failing to listen to putin's red line - return to a 21 february agreement or i will act as i find necessary to guard russia's strategic interests.

if the extreme right pro-nazi elements continue to drive ukraine at the accelerated pace into nato, vlad will absolutely definitely respond by further destabilizing of those whose policy he considers blatantly anti russian,

 

[Bavarianrider]

 

[Zam_Olyas]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/huckabee-obama-has-diminished-american-might

HUCKABEE: OBAMA HAS DIMINISHED AMERICAN MIGHT

Huckabee on Friday has told an annual gathering of conservative leaders and activists that "no one trusts us, no one listens to us, no one respects us, no one fears us." Huckabee, who is weighing a presidential campaign in 2016, says the United States has reduced its military power and other nations have taken advantage of it.

Huckabee says that as a result, Russian President Vladimir Putin only shakes when he takes his shirt off in the Russian winter but not when Washington threatens him.

Huckabee is speaking at the second day of the Conservative Political Action Conference.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

2/3 of Russia (poulation) stand behind Putin. The biggest approval since 4 years (MSM Germany reporting)...
Boahh, and the warmongers from USA thought they would down Putin with their propaganda. Not working.
Watch out: The only help out for the imperialists now is either a false flag operation or a CIA assasination.
Russia better have your Topols ready... just in case.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

"Huckabee on Friday has told an annual gathering of conservative leaders and activists that "no one trusts us, no one listens to us, no one respects us, no one fears us." Huckabee, who is weighing a presidential campaign in 2016, says the United States has reduced its military power and other nations have taken advantage of it.

Huckabee says that as a result, Russian President Vladimir Putin only shakes when he takes his shirt off in the Russian winter but not when Washington threatens him.

Huckabee is speaking at the second day of the Conservative Political Action Conference. "

Absurd, those baiters from the "grand old party". What phuckheads. They won´t stop until they either own the whole world, and/or their millitary budget is 100% of the whole GDP.
Just for comparison;
USA military budget per year is 739 billion USD.
China is 2nd at a "measly" 90 billion.
Russia with 53.