World Politics

[FoxxyBrown1111]

"This is the man who described the breakup of the Soviet Union as the greatest geo-political disaster of the last century."
Absolutely. Since the walls came down, there was no-holds-barred for the ever growing neo-capitalism. The beginning of the end for many countries (inclusive most of the EU).
The russians (majority) who hate Gorbatchev are right. But the real master of disaster was Jelzin who completely ruined Russia in the name of the Chicago/Friedman boys.
Awesome work so far by Putin to try to get Russia back on track. Still many things are down to the ground, but he is heading in the right direction (improving the countries standard), while EU is the opposite (going down inch-by-inch).
And well, USA? Degenerates their citizens by FoxNews and agitators like McCain. Hell, some of those hillbillies are so dumb that they think a country-wide-for-everybody-health-insurance (if its a good construct) is a communism thing. Totally dependent on intelligent immigrants. In big depth (112% of GDP; vs Russias 10%). Rellying on imports for worthless greenbacks printed out of fresh air. Only still the ruler of the world b/c of their extreme big millitary (I have to admit, there "last man standing") and imperialism.
As I said, inner cities of NYC, LA and Oakland looked like 3rd world cities. And that was in the 90s. I wonder how it is nowadays after the big crash. Especially Detroit. Someone knows?

 

[RetroActive]

Kerry is embarrassing himself again in Kiev telling the Russians how things are done differently in the 21st century.

Equally embarrassing today was Putin's laughable denial that the troops in the Crimea are not Russian forces, but 'local militias'.

Yes that was obvious bull****. Russian trained and supported militias I'd buy, however covertly that it's accomplished.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Washington’s Arrogance, Hubris, and Evil Have Set the Stage for War
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/

hmmm

PaulCraigRoberts = total numskull or mouthpiece of vlad, most likely both

You have to laugh at this line from the idiot



The more discerning will realise that Kerry opposed the war with Iraq,

Anyway thanks retroActive and fellow travellers for giving me a good laugh at your idiocy, I am sure Putin is glad of your support

Hey, didn´t know about that guy (simply b/c I go mostly to german sites) until I got linked there. Pretty good for an ex-Reagan boy. It seems he changed sides completely.
Of course "del1962" has to call him a numskull and idiot, because people that make it into high positions must be.
I guess everybody that doesn´t have "del1962s" simplistic, chewed for, MSM view must be some kind of idiot.
I like this part the most, even tough it´s sad that it´s true:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/03/end-nearer-think-paul-craig-roberts/
"War will be the result of the ignorance, gullibility, and stupidity of the American population, its prostitute media, and the hegemonic ambitions of the evil neoconservatives."
del1962, where you live? In Montana right next to the influence of Malmstrom Air Force Base? That would explain a lot. I think the only media that reaches there is some kind of "patriotic" FoxNews.

Edit: Have read a little about this guy. Respect. He did change sides. Chapeau!

 

[RetroActive]

Hey, didn´t know about that guy (simply b/c I go mostly to german sites) until I got linked there. Pretty good for an ex-Reagan boy. It seems he changed sides completely.
Of course "del1962" has to call him a numskull and idiot, because people that make it into high positions must be.
I guess everybody that doesn´t have "del1962s" simplistic, chewed for, MSM view must be some kind of idiot.
I like this part the most, even tough it´s sad that it´s true:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/03/end-nearer-think-paul-craig-roberts/
"War will be the result of the ignorance, gullibility, and stupidity of the American population, its prostitute media, and the hegemonic ambitions of the evil neoconservatives."
del1962, where you live? In Montana right next to the influence of Malmstrom Air Force Base? That would explain a lot. I think the only media that reaches there is some kind of "patriotic" FoxNews.

He's old and says what he thinks. Radical.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

To get older makes you wiser (ok, not too often , but for Paul it worked). Imagine, there was a time I believed in all the lies USA brought over the sea. I once liked Ronald Reagan! I was a fool.
But at least I am honest, and able to change views if necessary by logic.
Most people lack this. Their POV is carved forever. This "stoneheadness" is the grounding for every manipulation...

 

[RetroActive]

To get older makes you wiser (ok, not too often , but for Paul it worked). Imagine, there was a time I believed in all the lies USA brought over the sea. I once liked Ronald Reagan! I was a fool.
But at least I am honest, and able to change views if necessary by logic.
Most people lack this. Their POV is carved forever. This "stoneheadness" is the grounding for every manipulation...

Start looking for 'the truth' and wind up realizing we're making it up. Scary and enlightening. Why do we tell ourselves such crappy stories?

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Start looking for 'the truth' and wind up realizing we're making it up. Scary and enlightening. Why do we tell ourselves such crappy stories?

Anyway. I talk of own perspective. We were better off (close to "paradise") with our social market economy and strong Deutsch Mark before USAs neo-captialism and lies took over our country (our companies were mostly owned by "our" basterds, not open for international "investors"; managers earned a just fair 20-times of the average worker; all was good). So it´s in my interest that the Friedman boys are stopped some day. If it needs the "enemy", good! The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Now I am simplistic.
But hey, I like short posts that drive the message home.
May one day we´ll have our paradise back we had until circa 1990... Unlikely, but hope dies last.

 

[RetroActive]

Anyway. I talk of own perspective. We were better off (close to "paradise") with our social market economy and strong Deutsch Mark before USAs neo-captialism and lies took over our country (our companies were mostly owned by "our" basterds, not open for international "investors"; managers earned a just fair 20-times of the average worker; all was good). So it´s in my interest that the Friedman boys are stopped some day. If it needs the "enemy", good! The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Now I am simplistic.
But hey, I like short posts that drive the message home.
May one day we´ll have our paradise back we had until circa 1990... Unlikely, but hope dies last.

My post was rhetorical, just my schizo. side coming out -lol. Then you bring up Friedman and economics and prove my point. Economics is made up, a story we tell ourselves which is potentially good news as we *could* change the story we're telling ourselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00iY4cpEQDY

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Havn´t watched, but I am sure it´s about the credit based fiat money system. The evil of the world. Yeah debts must ever grow. That´s why the necons need to expand.
They know they will never get the debts back. But that´s not what they are interested in. They are interested in assuring they get their yearly interest (thus making sure the enslaved work for it day in day out). A perverted system that can only work if people are busy to dream on with the american way of life. They fear nothing more than not getting their free of work 1/10th.
That is the kept secret strategy behind blossoming markets in "freed democracy" countries.

 

[RetroActive]

Havn´t watched, but I am sure it´s about the credit based fiat money system. The evil of the world. Yeah debts must ever grow. That´s why the necons need to expand.
They know they will never get the debts back. But that´s not what they are interested in. They are interested in assuring they get their yearly interest (thus making sure the enslaved work for it day in day out). A perverted system that can only work if people are busy to dream on with the american way of life. They fear nothing more than not getting their free of work 1/10th.
That is the kept secret strategy behind blossoming markets in "freed democracy" countries.

You're not wrong, there's more to it but you're on the same track. Michael Hudson and Steve Keen are fighting the good fight by estimation. They're trying to change the story we're telling ourselves, or is being told to us anyway.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

The only way to stop this $hit is to stop the influence of western central banks (and the private banks that rule and stand behind them). Only possible with revolutionary thinkings and systems.
BTW, that pseudo ukrainian "revolution" is the complete opposite. I hope the simple minds (even those up there in Montana) get that by now: It is a simple market expansion for land, debt and resources.

I just wonder what will happen when they finally reached their expansion possibilities. That is when every country is enslaved in "freedom and democracy".
The only countries (with complete different systems, or at least their own central banking systems) they can enter then are the likes of Iran, North Korea, China and Russia. They need to nuke by then if they still wanna expand to prevent the collapse of their house of cards (there can´t be more growing in depts if the money owed+interests is higher or even the sum of the worth of land and the goods that are produced*).

*Most countries of the west are at this point. USA leads with 112% of debt on GDP (vs the moderate 10% of Russia. I guess Obama and his boys are jeaulously nail biting their fingers).
I guess McCain and other a$$holes who work for the banksters are very aware of that. Otherwise they wouldn´t escalate in their war speeches vs Russia.

 

[rhubroma]

The only way to stop this $hit is to stop the influence of western central banks (and the private banks that rule and stand behind them). Only possible with revolutionary thinkings and systems.
BTW, that pseudo ukrainian "revolution" is the complete opposite. I hope the simple minds (even those up there in Montana) get that by now: It is a simple market expansion for land, debt and resources.

I just wonder what will happen when they finally reached their expansion possibilities. That is when every country is enslaved in "freedom and democracy".
The only countries (with complete different systems, or at least their own central banking systems) they can enter then are the likes of Iran, North Korea, China and Russia. They need to nuke by then if they still wanna expand to prevent the collapse of their house of cards (there can´t be more growing in depts if the money owed+interests is higher or even the sum of the worth of land and the goods that are produced*).

*Most countries of the west are at this point. USA leads with 112% of debt on GDP (vs the moderate 10% of Russia. I guess Obama and his boys are jeaulously nail biting their fingers).
I guess McCain and other a$$holes who work for the banksters are very aware of that. Otherwise they wouldn´t escalate in their war speeches vs Russia.

Don't mean to burst your bubble, but, no, the simple folks in Montana think it's about freedom and good guys vs. bad guys. That's the rhetorical level we're at in the debate.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Don't mean to burst your bubble, but, no, the simple folks in Montana think it's about freedom and good guys vs. bad guys. That's the rhetorical level we're at in the debate.

I know.
But at least some doubters will start to think. I could do it back in 2008 (when thousands of idiots in Berlin hailed their not yet in power, new "Führer" of the "free world"), so yes we all can.

 

[aphronesis]

Don't mean to burst your bubble, but, no, the simple folks in Montana think it's about freedom and good guys vs. bad guys. That's the rhetorical level we're at in the debate.

Probably, maybe. The reality is that most can't be bothered; now more than ever. The radical implication of this would be to explore the possibilities of the post-sovereign nation state as a mercantilist codification dragged into the 20 th century or considered alternately in terms of useful management of spaces and populi. Foxxy is making part of this argument, but mostly from the buttressed remote of an economic and ethnic enclave.

 

[blutto]

....another article from Mike Whitney ( called of all things Crimea River ) where-in he digs around and into the dark underbelly of the "democratic" revolution in The Ukraine...

...there are some interesting comments about the Crimea situation and the hither-to mysterious snipers ( who are a critical component of the putsch story ) and ends up throwing some light on a potentially much bigger story...which involves Turkish intelligence and some of NATO's go to cleaners who also happen to be associated with the neo-Nazis who pushed the "democratic" revolution forward at key points...

...may be of interest for inquisitive minds to take a peak at the Wiki entry on Operation Gladio ( which has a very long history of "stuff" with lots of real neat connections... )... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

...all in all an important read...there are not a lot of conclusions but there are a lot of good questions....

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/04/crimea-river/

Cheers

 

[blutto]

....and speaking of neat, here is a bit of background on the Crimea that may make Ukrainian claims to it rather questionable ...

"Crimea didn’t become part of the Ukrainian SSR until 1954, when Krushchev decided to transfer it out of the Russian SSR. And in 1992, Crimeans voted in a referendum for independence, which the Ukrainian government refused to acknowledge. However, Crimea was allowed a very high degree of autonomy in its government. Russia operates in Crimea under a SOFA arrangement allows them to position 11,000 troops there."

...from... http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/04/skullduggery-in-ukraine/

Cheers

 

[rhubroma]

Probably, maybe. The reality is that most can't be bothered; now more than ever. The radical implication of this would be to explore the possibilities of the post-sovereign nation state as a mercantilist codification dragged into the 20 th century or considered alternately in terms of useful management of spaces and populi. Foxxy is making part of this argument, but mostly from the buttressed remote of an economic and ethnic enclave.

I think under the strictures of scientific management and financialization, we're already at the point of "the post-sovereign nation state as a mercantilist codification," and this is why participatory democracy today is a complete sham.

The more I read Foxxy, the more Beppe Grillo and the Five Star Movement comes to mind.

 

[RetroActive]

I think under the strictures of scientific management and financialization, we're already at the point of "the post-sovereign nation state as a mercantilist codification," and this is why participatory democracy today is a complete sham.

The more I read Foxxy, the more Beppe Grillo and the Five Star Movement comes to mind.

Some in the more *out there* communities are calling it the breakaway civilisation. Conversely it could be called fukk the profane I suppose. Others are just calling it neo-feudalism. I just call it sad and crazy.

The 'elite' are calling it the age of transition apparently. If you have some time on your hands Global Strategic Trends - Out to 2040 (put out by the British ministry of defense) makes for some interesting reading:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...programme-global-strategic-trends-out-to-2040

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

The more I read Foxxy, the more Beppe Grillo and the Five Star Movement comes to mind.

LOL. But I look better. OTOH, I would like to have his 4.3 Mio income... May I should follow his footsteps.

 

[rhubroma]

LOL. But I look better. OTOH, I would like to have his 4.3 Mio income... May I should follow his footsteps.

Eh, no. That would ruin your style.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Ok, 430.000 per year is also ok...

 

[python]

a couple of days ago, i thought i understood where the ukraine crisis is moving.
now i don't...a bunch of events and statements in the last 2 days confused the picture for me. it is still a mix of good and bad, optimistic and pessimistic news...

(Optimistic):
still no shooting, diplomats are meeting in paris today, many moderate voices in the eu (germany, spain, greece ) balance the hardline states, russia appears interested in the political process

(pessimistic):
the crimea govt flat out refuses to talk to kiev, russia's insistence on 21 february agreement, russian parliament threatening expropriation of assets and property in response to sanctions, continued insistence that crimean forces dont answer russia...

when yanukovich was illegally deposed the score was russia 0, west 1.
then, cremean govn was formed in almost exactly the same legally questionable manner, the score became 1-1.

it is rather clear that ukraine lost crimea, perhaps for good. any official statements by the new crimean govt about meaning no more than autonomy, are as cynical as the kiev putsch govt statement about speaking for all urainians...


this all seems like the west and russia, via their proxies, compete in who is more cynical.

 

[blutto]

....not to worry, clarity is looming on the horizon...see below a Tweet from Lindsey Graham on The Ukraine situation ( and more to come I'm sure... so we should all be crystal clear in no time ...)...

"It started with Benghazi. When you kill Americans and nobody pays a price, you invite this type of aggression. #Ukraine"

Cheers

 

[blutto]

...though there is a very good chance that reality may muddy the waters to some extent and deny us the clarity that we would like to enjoy....see below....

"When Pravy Sektor’s Dmitry Yarosh called on the Chechen liberation fighters to join Ukrainian nationalists in global struggle, he accented the North Atlantic’s energy politics better than anyone before him. Although Pravy Sektor blamed hackers for the call to arms, we ought to take the connection between the Caucasus and the Crimea extremely seriously.

The US and UK support Chechen moves for independence based on the vision of a “liberated region of the Caspian Sea,” which would turn over its vast energy resources to “the global marketplace.” This vision has been thwarted by Putin’s devastating grip on Chechnya, as well as Moscow’s involvement on behalf of Abkhazia and South Ossetia during the Russia-Georgia War of 2008. The outcome of the Kremlin’s maneuvers has secured Russia’s energy corridor from Central Asia into Europe through Ukraine. Hence, Pravy Sektor’s manifesto for cross-cutting resistance in infrastructural cornerstones appears to connect North Atlantic’s interests while also exposing the general strategy of provoking separatism in order to overthrow competing circles of influence."

...from..
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/05/ukraine-and-the-great-asian-enclosure/

...it always gets down to the 4 W's...who says what about whom and why...though things always get complex at some level because of the relationship between the narrative in front of you and the meta-narrative of which it is a sub-set...so the snipers faction are calling for a "global" struggle and suddenly the question becomes on whose behalf ....on behalf of The Ukraine they profess to love so much? or maybe just maybe someone else because, and call me a party poop, but I don't see the struggle in The Ukraine going global anytime soon ( but apparently it seems to be somehow tied to Benghazi so you never know )...

Cheers

 

[Bustedknuckle]

....not to worry, clarity is looming on the horizon...see below a Tweet from Lindsey Graham on The Ukraine situation ( and more to come I'm sure... so we should all be crystal clear in no time ...)...

"It started with Benghazi. When you kill Americans and nobody pays a price, you invite this type of aggression. #Ukraine"

Cheers

It started with 'W' and the invasion of Chechnya, nope with Iraq, nope with Putin.

a week ago Graham was calling the POTUS 'imperial', runs the US like a Kingdom, no he's ineffective and week..the repubs continue to search for a clue.

BUT There will be a real need for Russian flags in Crimea..expect annexation..and the EU can't/shouldn't do anything about it.