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AND why putin has shown such 'interest' in Moldova, Georgia and now Ukraine..he yearns for the Soviet Union, or at least a buffer between Russia and NATO...It ****es him off hugely that the former Soviet republics or 'independent' nation states, are now members of NATO...

...so let me finish that thought and in so doing give the it the historical perspective it requires to provide an accurate picture of the situation...

" AND why putin has shown such 'interest' in Moldova, Georgia and now Ukraine..he yearns for the Soviet Union, or at least a buffer between Russia and NATO...It ****es him off hugely that the former Soviet republics or 'independent' nation states, are now members of NATO... " and in so doing have egregiously violated an agreement that was reached between the US/NATO during the period of German re-unification and the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact...the result of this violation is that Russia is now face to face, across a common border, with a potential adversary that has over the last decade or so proved in several instances to be a bloodthirsty monster that has shown absolutely no aversion to thoroughly destroying entire countries and cultures by whatever means necessary, be they military or financial ( and may I add, this aggression has been carried out on the basis of either the most thread bare of pretexts or just simply ball faced lies.. )...

...not to put too fine a point on this but Russia faces an adversary that has in the very recent past murdered more that a million people for nothing more than political gains in some insane game of Real Politick played by well fed, perfectly coiffured and highly paid denizens of "well regarded and respected" think tanks and other related institutions..

....that is the reality that Russia, the country and the culture, now faces, and everything else is political posturing supported by Western media bull$hit whose main purpose in this instance seems to be to grease the rails for more potentially murderous conquest ( with the emphasis on the $...)...

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On Erdogan's victory: it's a rather sad result, but not that surprising of course. For example in Istanbul, AKP gets almost no votes in Besikats and Kadiköy, but wins most of the other districts. There is a huge schism in Turkey, and I don't suspect it to disappear anytime soon, with the way Erdogan reacts on it...
 
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the ukrainian crisis, by my count, entered its 4th and in my view most interesting phase... the yanukovich rejection of the eu association, the 22 feb putsch and the 16 march crimean referendum being the 1 st, 2nd and 3d phases respectively...

atm, almost everyone in the west stopped talking sanctions. in stead, a hyperactive diplomacy and the multiple rounds of west/russia meetings, maneuvers and high level phone calls are taking place.

it used to be (before the crimea referendum) , that almost always, the private calls to putin were always initiated by the west's leaders AFTER they issued their next batch of indignant PUBLIC rhetoric and threats. yesterday, it was putin who called obama and the result was that kerry's plane on the way to america did a 180 in the air, landed in paris and had a 4-hour talk with lavrov in the residence of the russian envoy to france(they seemed unable to find another more neutral place in paris :confused:)

that kerry-lavrov talk, despite the wall of disinformation on either side (see my previous post) appears very significant.

i did my best trying to separate the substance from chaff in the maze of western and eastern sources. here's what i believe is going on in the 4th phase and what is not being reported in the mass media...

- it looks like russia, unlike their previous loud announcement about the military maneuvers, indeed quietly collected a serious number of troops on ukraine's borders. my read - despite lavrov's assurances, they are there to provide the diplomatic pressure via projecting the force capable to do their job if called upon...

- last week's assassination by the ukrainian security of one of the ultra-right leaders who helped the very putsch govt, may indicate the west's pressure to get rid of the most extreme elements. perhaps a good will gesture to the russians or the west's genuine concerns for the ultra right (after being used up like a condom) becoming uncontrolled and plunging the country into the civil war

- putin called merkel today (after she called him 3-4 times in the last couple weeks) and complained about the russian transnistria blocked by the ukraine being unacceptable. hence his troops are nearby... that merkel knows about but he denies.

- several cautious statements by the current putsch leaders for the 1st time remarkably acknowledging that the russian speaking south-east federalization and the status of the russian language (something russia vehemently demands) may indeed become the potential issues on the table for some candidates during the upcoming presidential elections. of course, they deny the need for such. my interpretation - the west's gesture to putin.

-some interesting candidates put themselves forward for the presidential elections...klitchko removed himself in favour of one west-supported oligarch - poroshenko. the guy hates putin , talks up western model, and exhibit moderate nationalism - of course, compared to the nazi the uki police killed. the previous queen of the orange revolution - timochenko - appears lost steam and american support.

etc etc. some interesting times are upon us.
 
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Last*Wars won by New^Kid on the Block

:):By itself, the US won Mexican-American war and Spanish-American war; The former was very profitable: Grabbed about 1/2 it's territory, including California, et al; The latter was needed (after the Havana Bay-400 marines fiasco:aka Self Sabotage)in order to tell the world that Spain was a have-been; & USA the new Bully). It hacked Cuba, PR, Filipinas', Guam. Then, it was a silent player, in WWI; & WWII played cat & mouse with Japan; Hide&Seek all over the Pacific Ocean. Only landed in the War Theater of Europe after Germany was self defeated, w/o oil; It had opened a two fronts war seeking fossil fuels after Montgomery denied them cheap & light oil from northern Africa; and HH crazy as a result of his venereal disease. In Asia, later, never able to cross over parallels 19 & 38 in Indo-China & Korean penninsula. The Dominican fiasco was a self defeat. Lesson: Don't 'diss your friends (it may backfire). I don't even wish to remember the W mess in Afghanistan & Irak. Now the opportunity to redeem itself is played: Send Atlantic Fleet to Black Sea, & Pacific Fleet to China Sea. Don't seek help from Europe, or anyone else. Spank/Grab/Hack/Sack both China & Russia, in a tandem fashion; The deuce shall get on their knees, menage-a-trois like. Then, and only then, can you re-write the rules. Instead of owing 16.7x10^14th power, You'd own the world. Until then, just shut the F/UP. Nobody seems to be afraid. By the way, Your pitises are waiting for promised Visas. DR? Not a chance. samurai3/1J4
 
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Yes. Now we just take their resources, but leave friends in charge, which is equally profitable.

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Here is the full speech of Obama when nobody clapped hands ...

Man, this guy is worse than Reagan* with Alzheimer...
* at least this actor had charisma and could speak very well

Being old has it's advantages. I recall when in 1979 Jimmy Carter came on TV and told everyone pretty much the truth with his infamous "malaise speech". He told us oil wasn't going to get cheaper, we couldn't dominate the world, and we'd have a tough couple years ahead of us and needed to think ahead. No one wanted to hear it. So Ronnie came along and told us that it was morning in America, and we were great and could have all we wanted. Which president delivered more? You tell me. But people sure liked listening to Reagan.
 
Reagan spoke well? Of course, he had teleprompters, just like all his successors (or predecessor).

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Putin does not need those.
 
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He did have teleprompters, and script writers, sure. But he was also very good at off-the-cuff comments. He delivered them very well in press conferences and to reporters barking at him on the run. Like him or not, he had a savvy blend of humor and shrewdness when in front of cameras.

Virtually ALL major politicians in every first world country are prepped for the media. They have been for many, many years. In the US and likely many other European countries CEO's and senior executives are also prepped for the media as well. It's all part of the game.
 
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That´s making Obama looking even worse.

BTW, in now way was I defending Ronald Reagan. I just said at least he could talk nice. He came across like a grandpa you could have a funny drinking bout with, where he tells you old stories about this and that. He had the charisma... His politics were awful.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Yes. Now we just take their resources, but leave friends in charge, which is equally profitable.



Being old has it's advantages. I recall when in 1979 Jimmy Carter came on TV and told everyone pretty much the truth with his infamous "malaise speech". He told us oil wasn't going to get cheaper, we couldn't dominate the world, and we'd have a tough couple years ahead of us and needed to think ahead. No one wanted to hear it. So Ronnie came along and told us that it was morning in America, and we were great and could have all we wanted. Which president delivered more? You tell me. But people sure liked listening to Reagan.

If Carter had possessed 1/10th of Reagan's communication skills he would certainly have been a two term president. In hindsight I think he's looking better and better to a lot of his detractors.
 
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Orwell´s 1984: Big*Bro´ Prophecies, II part

:confused:This isn't 1948; Not even 1984. The three bullies are US, Russia, & China. Dwindling empires are gone. The Sun remains the same on the dark side of the moon. Stairways to heaven are taken US to Hell. Next. No fossil fuels to whitstand over production of goods & services nobody wants, or are thereby un(able) to pay 4. The technostructure must justify their Jobs. The bureaucracy must try to dignify their gigs. The Third world is caught up in between. No H2O to sustain US all. Debt foregone. Bull markets w/o P/E ratios. More multi-zillionaires creating havoc all over the place. Let those Zumo wrestlers measure up against each other. & leave those kids alone. W/o uppers & downers to even be able to go to the head'. Animal farm once again w/o the entrepreneur whose job is to make US all miserable. (PD He/She can't please His/Her companions). Suicidal tendencies/Suicidal types: UNITE. Let the party get started. Let the horses run berserk. Once again. Just 4 Sport. Not 4 cash. The war profiteers? Fight. The war dodgers? RUN. Fragging Times. Mommy? DoYouThinkThey'llDropDas'Bomb?....
 
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Bombardopolis^Moron(PitiLand)

Two places where we could land, and pressure them west> Where they'd be met by Shiva/Hindu*Prince -& the Occupying Forces? They'd run berserk, they are just a bunch of Drug-Deales, swindlers, and racketeers
 
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Amsterhammer said:
Foxxy, this is bullsh!t. This was not an 'audience'. These were journalists at a press conference. Journalists do not clap at press conferences. Ever. Try criticizing Obama for something else.

...you are absolutely correct, journalists are too professional to clap at such an event...their professionalism also had them refrain from throwing shoes and rotten tomatoes at the podium, which would have been a most reasonable thing to do given that they had just been served up a frothy $hit sandwich of self-serving speechifying that was basically unmitigated gall and bull$hit about Iraq and topped off with a rancid cherry of a barefaced lie about a referendum in Kosovo....

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VeloCity said:
Not if it's a Daily Caller "journalist".

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/obama-interrupted-by-heckling-reporter-126301.html

""Why’d you favor foreigners over Americans?”

...yup...therein lies the rub....definitely not the professionals that the esteemed Mr Hammer was referring to but more along the lines of bottom feeding conservative hack ( though admittedly it is somewhat a matter of perspective because in the SoWrong universe that hack would probably be seen as worthy of a Pulitzer...)...

"Why do you favor foreigners over Americans" ...indeed...

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blutto said:
...you are absolutely correct, journalists are too professional to clap at such an event...their professionalism also had them refrain from throwing shoes and rotten tomatoes at the podium, which would have been a most reasonable thing to do given that they had just been served up a frothy $hit sandwich of self-serving speechifying that was basically unmitigated gall and bull$hit about Iraq and topped off with a rancid cherry of a barefaced lie about a referendum in Kosovo....

Cheers

As my learned friend from Soviet Canuckistan rightly points out, there were plenty of substantive reasons to criticize Obama's speech, rather than the superficial clapping red herring - to which I reacted as acidly as I did, because I had seen innumerable wingnuts make exactly that 'point' in recent days, which led to an increasing fraying of my nerves.
 
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Scott SoCal said:
The comments following the piece are priceless.

...so you actually do think a Pulitzer is in order?....oh whoops!?....because my comment was meant as a joke, tongue in cheek maybe, but a joke none-the-less...sorry...

Cheers
 
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Amsterhammer said:
As my learned friend from Soviet Canuckistan rightly points out, there were plenty of substantive reasons to criticize Obama's speech, rather than the superficial clapping red herring - to which I reacted as acidly as I did, because I had seen innumerable wingnuts make exactly that 'point' in recent days, which led to an increasing fraying of my nerves.

...ok now I understand your response.... because it happens so rarely I keep forgetting that the entire wingnut population is not safely ensconced in the SoWrong universe and that the SoCorrect side has the odd dull knife in the drawer as well ( and yes they can be as irritating and sanctimonious as the bog standard hillbilly wingnut we usually encounter so I can understand your frustration and the resulting fraying thang...like don't these people understand they have to play at a higher level...like haven't they got the memo?.. they disappoint on so many levels don't they?...like is there anything worse than friendly fire?...)

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interesting, some stuff is new

the former (not to him :))president of ukraine just gave an extended interview.

some statements were quite interesting...when asked why he did not follow putin's advise NOT to withdraw from kiev the special forces and the elite police units, he said,

'look, you may not like what i am going to say, but i did it because it was my understanding of the obligations towards the opposition and the 3 foreign ministers (of france, poland and germany) with whom i signed an agreement on 21 february about the deescalation and the new elections... i fulfilled my part but they basically intentionally trapped me to topple me. as soon as i signed and the authorities became defenseless, the wave of violence and shooting started...the peaceful protesters were quickly overwhelmed by suddenly surging well armed and well trained rioters.'

he confirmed that he asked putin to use russian troops...danced around a direct question if he supported the separation of crimea.

imo, his specific economic examples as to why he refused to sign the eu association agreement were reasonable. in brief, he spoke of the heavy machinery industry and the weapons manufacturing plants that employ 500,000 persons and whose products are mainly destined for export into russia and several other former su republics.... adopting too quickly the european standards in these industries (like adopting a euro standard for all rail roads) would put these workers on the streets and would basically suffocate the ukrainian economy because the current importers of the goods would raise the defensive tariffs to protect their own producers and markets.... same with the agree culture... he said that thousands of ukrainian products would instantly become non-competitive compared to the cheap eu goods and that russia would again raise tariffs to protect its own inefficient farmers from re-imports because ukraine currently has a tariff-free agreement with russia...all this, he argued, required a careful tri-party coordination between the eu, russia and ukraine. but the eu flatly refused.

the rest was either well known or unremarkable...
 
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....speaking of world issues here are a couple of articles that address the big one...

...we begin with something from everyone's fave, His Royal Rudeness...

You wanna $hit yourself on a Tuesday? Just look at what the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said it has "high" or "very high" confidence will happen or is happening as a result of the world's governments being filled with greedy mother****ers who are doing nearly nothing to deal with the causes of global climate change:

"Impacts from recent climate-related extremes, such as heat waves, droughts, floods, cyclones, and wildfires, reveal significant vulnerability and exposure of some ecosystems and many human systems to current climate variability." That scary sentence was given with very high confidence. It's followed by this scary sentence: "For countries at all levels of development, these impacts are consistent with a significant lack of preparedness for current climate variability in some sectors." You get it? We're not prepared for what's going on, let alone for what's coming. That's because too many of our putative leaders get their science from the Bible and Rush Limbaugh, not necessarily in that order.

At best, the report says, the globe is at the beginning of adaptation to a new reality. It's fascinating that, while pretty much every other continent is moving ahead with planning for the ****ed new world, "in North America, governments are engaging in incremental adaptation assessment and planning, particularly at the municipal level." So while Asia is "mainstreaming climate adaptation action into subnational development planning, early warning systems, integrated water resources management, agroforestry, and coastal reforestation of mangroves," we're sitting on our assessing asses and hoping Jesus bails us out at the last second like Bruce Willis swinging in on a firehose.

Let's just catalog the horrors occurring now due to climate change, shall we?

Glaciers shrinking? High confidence. Animal and plant extinctions? High confidence. Food insecurity? Reduction in crop yields? Higher food prices? High confidence. Disruption of food and water supplies? Very high confidence.

And, hey, here's some **** that's probably gonna occur (remember: "high" or "very high" confidence) at some point, maybe even in our lifetimes, so no weaseling out and passing it on to the kids:

"A large fraction of both terrestrial and freshwater species faces increased extinction risk under projected climate change during and beyond the 21st century, especially as climate change interacts with other stressors, such as habitat modification, over-exploitation, pollution, and invasive species." That's a rich gumbo of ways we're dicking over nature until nature decides to bite us hard on our fat asses.

"Due to sea-level rise projected throughout the 21st century and beyond, coastal systems and low-lying areas will increasingly experience adverse impacts such as submergence, coastal flooding, and coastal erosion." Submergence? That means, um, underwater. It doesn't matter how many guns you own, Florida. You can't stand your ground against the ****in' ocean.

"All aspects of food security are potentially affected by climate change, including food access, utilization, and price stability...Heat stress, extreme precipitation, inland and coastal flooding, landslides, air pollution, drought, and water scarcity pose risks in urban areas for people, assets, economies, and ecosystems." These two together pretty much mean we're gonna be eating each other by the end of the century, no zombie apocalypse needed.

And then there's the disease and starvation and death: "Until mid-century, projected climate change will impact human health mainly by exacerbating health problems that already exist. Throughout the 21st century, climate change is expected to lead to increases in ill-health in many regions and especially in developing countries with low income, as compared to a baseline without climate change. Examples include greater likelihood of injury, disease, and death due to more intense heat waves and fires; increased likelihood of under-nutrition resulting from diminished food production in poor regions; risks from lost work capacity and reduced labor productivity in vulnerable populations; and increased risks from food- and water-borne diseases."

Let us say, and why not, that you're playing on some train tracks in the dark with another person. You hear a train horn in the distance. You might say, "Hey, we should step off these tracks." The other person says, "That train is so far away. Who cares?" So you stay until you hear the horn again, quite a bit closer. You say, "That's close enough. C'mon, we can play elsewhere." But the other person says, "We're not going anywhere. That train is probably not even coming this way." Then you see the front light of the train and the tracks are vibrating. "That's it," you say. "We're leaving." The other person scoffs, "No, I know all about this train. It's gonna switch tracks right up there" and points to where you don't see any other tracks or switches. "In fact," the other person says, "I'm so sure that I'm going to tie us to the track just to prove I'm right." You respond, "What the ****? How about we step off the track and see if I'm right?" The other one says, "Because then we'd stop playing" and ties you both up so you can see if you get run over by the quickly approaching train that is obviously on your track.

That's not a terrible analogy, but it's incomplete. Let's add this: To distract you from even thinking about or talking about the train, the other person takes out an iPhone and turns on CNN where you see absolutely nothing about the train, only about floating plastic bits in the ocean and a missing plane. Ahh. Now you won't even notice when the locomotive wipes you the **** out.

Compared to every other minor story or internet meme covered by our media, the IPCC report is pretty much a tree falling in a forest where it might make a sound, but everything around it is extinct, so it can't be heard.

....the uncensored picante version is below....and a fine gruel it is....

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/04/un-climate-panel-were-****ed-hello-is.html

...and we follow that with an article of how some parts of the world are reacting to related issues...some are forward thinking, others are money grubbing hillbilly lemmings bent on charging to the cliff edge...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...hina-is-looking-out-for-no-1/article17727332/

"At some point, other emerging powers such as India and Brazil will imitate China’s renewable energy model. Then any country that is pinning its future on hydrocarbon exports – Russia, Canada, Australia – might be in real trouble"

....and....

"Professors Mathews and Tan don’t for a second think that China’s pursuit of renewable energy is motivated by saving the planet from crispy bacon status by reducing its carbon footprint. Instead, they think it’s all about energy security and industrial development.

The Chinese have, in effect, chosen to manufacture their own energy security by producing vast quantities of solar panels, wind vanes, hydro turbines and all the paraphernalia that goes with them, such as “smart” transmission grids. The other option is to import energy from afar, but sometimes wars, revolutions and resource nationalism get in the way"

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Blutto most of time I agree, but not on the climate story. I know, I want to read the book of they guy who thinks by 2030 we are all dead b/c of climate change, but I can´t agree...

I repeat again; killing the rain forests, nuclear waste,destroyed oceans in every way immaginable, water polution, "mountains of trash", etc. are WAY more risky for our planet.

Too much is uncertain about climate change. What are the guys doing if Yellowstone breaks out? It will get bitter cold (and nasty, THAT can lead to extinction of mankind), not warm.

What if more species grow than get killed b/c it gets hotter? In warm periods species always grew, in cold ones, they diminished...

What´s bad if the oceans grow? It´s good, mankind has less space to destroy nature. I´d have no problem if nature finds a way to downsize the worlds growing population. If it comes by water, be it...

A much bigger thing with the so-called climate change is: It will bring some clima-nazis up who sell us chemtrails and weather manipulation is good. THAT is a way to bring mankind to extinction. I see it coming.

Otherwise, I wish everybody a nice hot summer with wild growing palms. ;)
 
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I (partially) agree Foxxy, although I do think battling climate change really is an important issue, the debate on it currently overshadows all the other important environmental problems.

Climate change is mostly problematic in the way that it effects underdeveloped countries way harder than the developed ones. It is easy to say you don't care about warmer periods when you're safely tucked away in Europe.
 
Climate change is an excuse for more globalism and, in fine, more free-trade (whether scientifically accurate or not, that is not my point).

You only need to look at the Green parties in Europe (usually called watermelon parties; green on the outside, red on the inside but they are pretty much libertarians), all staunch supporters of the EU, which means of free circulation of capitals and of relocation of the industry to China, etc.

It's also fitting that the Greens have an alliance with the N-VA (Flemish separatists) - Greens being considered left-wing, N-VA right-wing, if not far-right - at the European Parliament. The N-VA is represented in the EFA group (European Free Alliance), which is actually the Green-EFA. If only it were widely known ... The EFA that also includes the Scottish SNP, the Catalunyan CiU, some separatist movement in the Basque Country, in Cornwall, in South Tyrol, in Friesland, in Brittany etc. All these separatists ally with the Greens !!

Those two groups that seem to have nothing in common both agree to undermine the European nation states and to link regions directly with the EU Commission, while the nation states are sandwiched between the two. In other words, they want to put the regions under a more tyrannical rule (EU) than they were under the centralized states.

And the dream Europe for the Greens (& EFA) is this:mad::

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