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Heartland and Ian Tyson are where it's at. Barrel Racing Angel could have been about my mother.
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Putin is being dangerous with his interventions in Eastern Europe, being irresponsible and harmful to peace with his interventions in the Middle East, and he is being unduly provocative with his actions in the Arctic,
“Canada needs to continue to stand strongly with the international community pushing back against the bully that is Vladimir Putin. If I have the opportunity in the coming months to meet with Vladimir Putin, I will tell him all this directly to his face because we need to ensure that Canada continues to stand strongly for peace and justice in the world,
python said:yeah, i saw that piece of bibi brilliancy in one of my rss feeds 2h back...
nothing to say except when the chief zionist has the back (is that a proper english ?) of a chief nazi it is time to wonder what herr goebbels would say![]()
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del1962 said:Trudeau talks tough on Putin
Putin is being dangerous with his interventions in Eastern Europe, being irresponsible and harmful to peace with his interventions in the Middle East, and he is being unduly provocative with his actions in the Arctic,
“Canada needs to continue to stand strongly with the international community pushing back against the bully that is Vladimir Putin. If I have the opportunity in the coming months to meet with Vladimir Putin, I will tell him all this directly to his face because we need to ensure that Canada continues to stand strongly for peace and justice in the world,
Don't know much about him but like his statement on Putin
blutto said:....The Quiet Revolution did not, as you claim, destroy French Canada, it merely destroyed the unholy hold that the parasitical Roman Catholic church had on Quebecois society ( which reduced the Quebecois to be largely ignorant "hewers of wood and drawers of water" and of course subservient to the whims and fancies of the frocked "royalty").......as a result the Quebecois culture was free to partake in the 20th century and become the modern progressive culture it is today ( which is at base where your problem with this lies doesn't it....because the Quebecois were living the Neanderthal Catholic ideologue's wet dream and The Quiet Revolution destroyed all that...well, callise and tabernak eh ...)
....and yes Pierre Elliot Trudeau was at the forefront of this revolution....and damn good on him for it...
Cheers
....as an example....the bolded above is a sweeping generalization that is not supported by historical fact because, at least in the case of Canada, government health care, which is, by any measure, a huge social program, was introduced into the Canadian ethos by a very far left leaning government in Saskatchewan ( where btw, its introduction was very aggressively opposed by groups that were allied with right wing political parties )....but, and this where the complexity of history comes in, single payer health care was introduced into Ontario by the Progressive Conservative government...
....that was said in the heat of the election battle so it deserves a bit of a pass....but I hope that with a more sober second look at the situation he can come up with something that does not simply channel the jingoistic Stephen Harper at his dumbest...
Echoes said:blutto said:....The Quiet Revolution did not, as you claim, destroy French Canada, it merely destroyed the unholy hold that the parasitical Roman Catholic church had on Quebecois society ( which reduced the Quebecois to be largely ignorant "hewers of wood and drawers of water" and of course subservient to the whims and fancies of the frocked "royalty").......as a result the Quebecois culture was free to partake in the 20th century and become the modern progressive culture it is today ( which is at base where your problem with this lies doesn't it....because the Quebecois were living the Neanderthal Catholic ideologue's wet dream and The Quiet Revolution destroyed all that...well, callise and tabernak eh ...)
....and yes Pierre Elliot Trudeau was at the forefront of this revolution....and damn good on him for it...
Cheers
Yes I guess you are showing your true face, here. Worst thing is that you once claim I made Christopher Lasch spin in his grave, lol. What irony! Though I guess you are deliberately provocative.
The hewers of wood, leave them alone, dude. You have no respect for manual workers. The "Collège classique" that Lesage had to destroy (probably against his will, he was overtaken by events) was one of the best higher education system in the world (Duplessis was ridiculed when he said that), which served as a model for the Japanese schools, was admired by Germans, Americans, etc.
The strength of the "Collège classique" was that it was based on letters, on languages (in particular classical languages: Latin & Ancient Greek), literature, religion & philosophy. The new collège focused on maths and science, first & foremost. The elite can no longer read Shakespeare or Cicero. With such a materialistic elite, how surprising that libertarianism prevails ???
Funny thing, Lasch noticed the same evolution re: American education.
....as an example....the bolded above is a sweeping generalization that is not supported by historical fact because, at least in the case of Canada, government health care, which is, by any measure, a huge social program, was introduced into the Canadian ethos by a very far left leaning government in Saskatchewan ( where btw, its introduction was very aggressively opposed by groups that were allied with right wing political parties )....but, and this where the complexity of history comes in, single payer health care was introduced into Ontario by the Progressive Conservative government...
Collective healthcare already existed in our medieval guilds and the guilds had been destroyed by the Left during the French Revolution. The modern single-payer healthcare system is only a revival of what our ancestors in the Middle Ages & the Renaissance already enjoyed. The first to oppose the wild capitalistic system of the 19th century were right-wing reactionary Catholics: I'm thinking of Johann Muller, Wilhelm von Ketteler or René de la Tour du Pin.
The rigid ideology is the left-wing Enlightened philosophy and its economic branch: "physiocracy" which produced Adam Smith and the modern liberalism/libertarianism (whatever you call it). They saw themselves as such, it's not my fault. I'm well aware of the complexity of reality but ideologies exist and are usually very consistent. Thus rigid!
....that was said in the heat of the election battle so it deserves a bit of a pass....but I hope that with a more sober second look at the situation he can come up with something that does not simply channel the jingoistic Stephen Harper at his dumbest...
Lol that post was edited, I guess.You can't face reality, dude. You've just voted for a guy who claimed to be on the Americano-Zionisto-ISIS connection against Putin in Syria. Deal with it!
How on earth can left-wing parties be trusted re: geopolitics! It's beyond me.![]()
blutto said:....earmuffs required....heads exploding imminently....
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Israel’s Nuclear Advisory Panel Endorses Iran Deal
1 hr ago - In defense establishment discussions of the Iranian nuclear agreement, Israel’s Atomic Energy Commission, which advises the government on nuclear issues, has endorsed the pact, a source familiar with the commission’s stance told Haaretz Thursday. The ... (Haaretz)
Cheers
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....from the comments section...
"The question everyone should be asking ... If Israel's foremost agency on nuclear issues endorses the deal as a means to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons, why does Netanyahu so vehemently oppose it?
I think it's not due to a disagreement about nuclear containment, but because what Bibi really wants is a war against Iran with the USA shouldering the burden."
....so the removal of a pretext for war was the issue all along....not the crap shovelled by various Wrong Wing minions and their fellow travellers....?.....
Echoes said:It begs the question
why was there such a strong opposition to the Iraq War (which I also opposed to) and virtually none to the Lybian War or the planned Syrian War? Why was there an even stronger opposition to the Vietnam War than to the Iraq War (+ why hasn't Hollywood produced any anti-"Iraq War" films like there were so many about the Vietnam War AFTER the war itself, of course).
Why were so many people willing to ignore the fact that Hussein was such a "bloody dictator" but acknowledge that Assad is one while we should all be happy that Assad & Putin tries to bring to heel the US-creation ISIS.
I still believe that the Iraq War was a left-wing/atheistic undertaking. The "far-right" all opposed to it (whether in the US or in Europe) but part of the Left (in the Anglo world or on the Continent) has always fervently approved of it, even long after anyone had realized it was a disaster and the WMD-pretext was a lie (like the Gulf of Tonkin incident, actually).
Echoes said:It begs the question
why was there such a strong opposition to the Iraq War (which I also opposed to) and virtually none to the Lybian War or the planned Syrian War? Why was there an even stronger opposition to the Vietnam War than to the Iraq War (+ why hasn't Hollywood produced any anti-"Iraq War" films like there were so many about the Vietnam War AFTER the war itself, of course).
Why were so many people willing to ignore the fact that Hussein was such a "bloody dictator" but acknowledge that Assad is one while we should all be happy that Assad & Putin tries to bring to heel the US-creation ISIS.
I still believe that the Iraq War was a left-wing/atheistic undertaking. The "far-right" all opposed to it (whether in the US or in Europe) but part of the Left (in the Anglo world or on the Continent) has always fervently approved of it, even long after anyone had realized it was a disaster and the WMD-pretext was a lie (like the Gulf of Tonkin incident, actually).
um, what? That might be the greatest attempt at revisionism that I've ever seen.Echoes said:GW Bush surely did not decide about the Iraq War on his own. He was just a muppet (and a drunkard).
The neocon movement was definitely born to soome left-wing intellectual circles close to Trotsky-ism in the 1970's: here. These were intellectuals who were increasingly dissatisfied with Nixon's "détente" policy. As Trotsky-ists they staunchly opposed to the Stalinian power in the USSR at that time. Such intellectuals included Seymour Martin Lipset, Melvin Lasky, and Albert Wohlstetter, among others. All from the City College in New-York.
Wohlstetter influenced Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz among others. There you have the connection between liberal movements of the seventies and the Iraq War.
Far-right politicians and/or intellectuals in the US who opposed the war included Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul, Paul Gottfried, Gary Johnson. I don't necessarily agree with all that these people are saying but it's a fact we have to note.
In the UK, whether BNP is a joke or not, Griffin opposed the war (again I'm not a supporter of the party, just observe). Farage was unknown at that time but he opposed the Lybian War and the planned intervention in Syria afterwards, which suggests that he would have voiced opposition to the Iraq War in 2003 if he were known then.
On the continent, Le Pen and Haider opposed to it, as well.
On the other hand, left-wing intellectuals such as Christopher Hitchens, Oliver Kamm, Bernard-Henri Lévy (and a barrage of French lefties), etc welcomed it and still defended it after anybody realized that it was a disaster and that the WMD were non-existent.
It must be food for thought, I guess.
Besides, I'm still wondering by there was less opposition to the Iraq War than there were to the Vietnam War, and less opposition to the Lybian War than to the Iraq War? Why do we welcome wars in particularly in the Muslim world more and more easily?
