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the main reason for the omnipresence of guns among the swiss is somewhat different. the majority of the guns along with the ammunition was govt-issued for the purpose of them defending the country. the swiss national defense concept is based on the idea of peoples militia and the individual male citizens quick mobilization. saw it for myself in my wife's brothers houses...

@blutto

just in. the chief policeman (avakov) who threw that glass of water into saakashvili face has today released the video of that govt meeting. the guardian has gotten a hold of it. see below. i cant find a translation of the yelling (EDIT: sorry, the english subtitles are right in the video), but the glass trajectory is there...perhaps the rt or the guardian will publish a translation of that screaming. some quotes are pure circus. just imagine, how these vandals would behave if the nato membership would indeed be granted them one day :( it's truly scary...some quotes:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/15/ukrainian-minister-throws-water-in-odessa-governors-face
Avakov wrote on Facebook that Barna had wanted to feel Yatsenyuk’s testicles, and discovered the prime minister had “balls of steel”.
Such public buffoonery has depressed many Ukrainians who expected a new kind of politics after last year’s Maidan revolution.
 
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Spanish elections on Sunday, very weird date IMO so close to Christmas, and it's a weird election too.
Anyone from Spain willing to give onlookers a run down that beats the one on major international websites? I'd be very grateful.
 
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.....the following from an article that presents a nice overview of the rise of Erdogan the Turkish PM.....the article is a good read with some reasonable depth and breadth...
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"Erdogan: The Birth of a Neoliberal Pasha

Erdogan then embraced an IMF-designed ‘stabilization and recovery’ program, which reduced wages, salaries and pensions while privatizing public sector enterprises and activities. This attracted a large inflow of capital as foreign investors and cronies snapped up the goodies at bargain prices. Most emblematic of this ‘free-for-all cronies’ approach to the economy was the Soma coal mine disaster in May 2014 when over 300 miners were killed in a previously state-owned mine, which had suffered a breakdown of worker safety conditions after it had been privatized to an Erdogan-crony. Despite local and international outrage, Recep ignored the scandal and unleashed police on the demonstrating miners.

Erdogan’s combination of Islam with brutal neo-liberalism attracted support from Brussels, Wall Street and the City of London. Large inflows of speculative foreign capital temporarily inflated Turkey’s GNP and Erdogan’s wealth and ego!

In the beginning of his rule Erdogan’s concessions, tax incentives, government contracts to big capital were broadly distributed to most sectors, but especially to his crony capitalists within the construction and real estate sectors.

As the capitalist boom continued and his power increased, Erdogan became more obsessed with his role as the savior of Turkey. By 2010, a serious difference developed between Erdogan and his Gülenist partners over the division of power. Erdogan moved rapidly and brutally. He launched another massive purge of suspected ‘Gülenist officials’. He arrested, fired, jailed and relocated Gülen sympathizers among judges, police and civil servants despite the fact that these were officials who had served him well during the earlier purge of the secular military.

Erdogan is not willing to share power with any other party, movement or group. Pasha Recep wanted to monopolize power. He has attacked critical newspapers, businesses and conglomerates claiming these were ‘Gülen controlled’. Erdogan ensured that only capitalists completely loyal to him would receive regime patronage. In other words, he strengthened the size, strength and importance of crony capitalists: especially in the real estate and construction sector."

http://www.unz.com/jpetras/recep-tayyip-erdogan-portrait-of-a-backstabbing-pasha/

Cheers
 
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python said:
@brullnux
the main reason for the omnipresence of guns among the swiss is somewhat different. the majority of the guns along with the ammunition was govt-issued for the purpose of them defending the country. the swiss national defense concept is based on the idea of peoples militia and the individual male citizens quick mobilization. saw it for myself in my wife's brothers houses...

@blutto

just in. the chief policeman (avakov) who threw that glass of water into saakashvili face has today released the video of that govt meeting. the guardian has gotten a hold of it. see below. i cant find a translation of the yelling (EDIT: sorry, the english subtitles are right in the video), but the glass trajectory is there...perhaps the rt or the guardian will publish a translation of that screaming. some quotes are pure circus. just imagine, how these vandals would behave if the nato membership would indeed be granted them one day :( it's truly scary...some quotes:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/15/ukrainian-minister-throws-water-in-odessa-governors-face
Avakov wrote on Facebook that Barna had wanted to feel Yatsenyuk’s testicles, and discovered the prime minister had “balls of steel”.
Such public buffoonery has depressed many Ukrainians who expected a new kind of politics after last year’s Maidan revolution.

....to the bolded....don't think the expectations were as high with the natives as they were with Western "fans" of the glorious revolution so their depression was not as acute ( though disappointment is probably a more appropriate term than depression )....if there was a source of disappointment it was not necessarily with eventual leaders of post Maidan Ukraine ( who were a known quantity but rather with the Yanqui fools who would support such a group of corrupt bloodthirsty scumbags....guess they didn't pay enough attention to the "success" :rolleyes: that has been the signature of Yanqui intervention over the last several decades...read one forking disaster after another...though weapons sales have been steady so someone benefits....)...

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my interest in turkey's foreign policy has almost distracted me from what appears a beginning of yet another turkish civil war with the domestic kurds...

while erdogan continues to hit the iraqi kurds (pkk) and wanting but not being able to hit the syrian kurds (b/c america calls them the inti-isil allies), he unleashed the full fury of his military on several millions of turkish kurds residing in south-east turkey. it would be more accurate to say on those kurds who have not been expelled or ran away

several days back i read an article by a retired turkish high-ranking military where he predicted the civil war which could be much more serious than any previuos. I dismissed it as not very probable. the officer was right

Turkey sends tanks on to streets of Kurdish cities

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/tom-stevenson-1351506935

to be fair, there are cruel militants among the turkish kurds that erdogan cliams to fight. but to fight them with tanks on the streets :confused:

i wonder where vlad fits, if at all, in the latest uprising...
 
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....more background on the Syrian conflict....this focuses more on the Saudi part of the equation....
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"The two top importers of U.S. weapons are #1 Saudi Arabia, and #2 Turkey. Both are Sunni, and no Shiite nation is even on the list. The new, 34-nation-plus military alliance could cause U.S. military producers to soar. And the figures shown there for Saudi Arabia grossly understate the reality. For example, on 13 September 2010, Britain’s Telegraph bannered “US secures record $60 billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia,” and other lesser arms bonanzas to the U.S. from the Sauds came in the years after, so that a figure of only “$1,199,000,000” for the year 2014 (given in the first of those two links) is no fair indication of the reality, which is that the Saud family dwarfs any other buyer of U.S. armaments. And, U.S. ‘news’ media refuse to allow their reporters to cover the ugly reality of how those weapons are being used — and they fire any who publicly object.

Saudi Arabia is owned by King Salman al-Saud, the world’s wealthiest person, who might now be on his way to becoming the Sunni faith’s globe-spanning “Caliph,” or Islamic Emperor — an aspiration of his family ever since his ancestor Muhammad Ibn Saud in 1744 swore an anti-Shiite oath, along with the fundamentalistic anti-Shiite cleric Muhammad Ibn Wahhab, who agreed that his followers would endorse Saud’s descendants to rule Arabia if the Saud clan would impose Wahhab’s extremist interpretation of the Quran. In fact, an official of the U.S.-backed Syrian ‘moderates’ called recently for exterminating Shiites, and the Saud family supports those ‘moderates.’ Furthermore, a recent poll showed that 92% of the Saudi public support ISIS, which is only natural since ISIS is only enforcing the laws that the Saud family have already long been imposing upon their own public."

....and the rest is quite worthwhile...

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/eric-zuesse/65205/saudi-royal-family-announces-its-new-global-sunni-military-empire

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python said:
my interest in turkey's foreign policy has almost distracted me from what appears a beginning of yet another turkish civil war with the domestic kurds...

while erdogan continues to hit the iraqi kurds (pkk) and wanting but not being able to hit the syrian kurds (b/c america calls them the inti-isil allies), he unleashed the full fury of his military on several millions of turkish kurds residing in south-east turkey. it would be more accurate to say on those kurds who have not been expelled or ran away

several days back i read an article by a retired turkish high-ranking military where he predicted the civil war which could be much more serious than any previuos. I dismissed it as not very probable. the officer was right

Turkey sends tanks on to streets of Kurdish cities

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/tom-stevenson-1351506935

to be fair, there are cruel militants among the turkish kurds that erdogan cliams to fight. but to fight them with tanks on the streets :confused:

i wonder where vlad fits, if at all, in the latest uprising...

....the following from the cited article...
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"The conflict has been stoked by the revelation on 3 December by local press, including the Radikal newspaper, that the “dragging” of the body of a young Kurdish man named Haci Birlik through the streets of Sirnak was likely orchestrated by the police as a deliberate provocation.

Birlik, 24, was the brother-in-law of HDP Sirnak deputy Leyla Birlik. On 2 October he was killed and his corpse strapped to the back of a police truck and then dragged through the streets.

In recordings that were unearthed during the general prosecutor's investigation, and reported by Radikal, police are heard discussing what to do with Haci's body, and how to attach it to the truck with a rope and hook."
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....given the way Turks have traditionally dealt with non natives not surprised that the Kurdish response would involve some cruelty....

....and yeah tanks are an escalation but various modern hand held weapon systems do manage to somewhat counter the threat that tanks present ( and this also extends to other threats such as close support by aircraft )...

....the Kurds are a sizeable population grouping that if properly supported with the right weapons could turn Turkey into a quagmire that would really mess up the economy ( and its not like Erdogan's popular support is huge...he basically stole the last election....and if he goes all dictatorial EU membership is gone forever, as is his popular support...)....

....Assad was quite clever early in the Syrian conflict to arm Syrian Kurds....a very effective joker card in his deck....and keeping with the cards analogy, methinks that Erdogan may have overplayed his hand....his survival will depend on how committed the Yanquis are to supporting that thug....

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.....the latest Pepe on the Syrian situation....as always well worth a read....

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/17/syria-shatters-pentagon-dream/

Cheers

And just think America was pushing hard for Turkey to be brought within the EU.

On the other hand, just saw an interview with Vladimir in which the Zar was asked what he thought about the Donald. "He's a very intelligent man, a natural born leader. How can you not hope he becomes president for stronger Russian-US relations."

It's a F-ucked up world we live in.
 
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blutto said:
.....the latest Pepe on the Syrian situation....as always well worth a read....

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/17/syria-shatters-pentagon-dream/

Cheers

And just think America was pushing hard for Turkey to be brought within the EU.

On the other hand, just saw an interview with Vladimir in which the Zar was asked what he thought about the Donald. "He's a very intelligent man, a natural born leader. How can you not hope he becomes president for stronger Russian-US relations."

It's a F-ucked up world we live in.

So were we (the UK). In fact, until a couple of months ago, Cameron was the closest ally of Erdogan in Europe.
 
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.....the latest Pepe on the Syrian situation....as always well worth a read....

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/17/syria-shatters-pentagon-dream/

Cheers
indeed, well worth the read and as always - colourful. pepe is spot on re many points, particularly about the obama team and turkey (though, i'd argue obama does have balls when his bird-size brain is made up), but pepe also in my view rushed to some grand strategy conclusions...perhaps, his piece was written before vladmir clarified a lot in his extended Q/A today. anyway, i listened to the france 24 extended coverage. here's where vlad seems to take a more modest stance than pepe saw it for him. granted, vlad should never be taken too literally.

- the extended military stay in syria was anything, but dismissed by vlad. yes, a tad surprising. the quick-hand, 'a permanent base in syria ? i am not sure...it's one thing to set up a temporary facility as now which took us 2 days to fly in and quite another to pay hard cash for a permanent base we may not need. after all, we can reach ANYONE by other means when and if we need.'

-per pepe: the potential russian air cover for the syrian kurds - the ypg and, most importantly, the ypg becoming the connecting link for all kurds in the 3 syrian regions. pepe may very well be correct about the russian sympathy for ypg, but as of now they are the us anti-isis asset and its not likely the americans would voluntarily hand over the valuable asset to the russians. keep in mind, the syrian kurds real worth is not their fight with isis, which is what's fed to the public, but that they control appr. 500 to 600 kn of the turkish border.

herein lies the most provocative issue - will the russians try to trap the turks (and take the revenge)by taking advantage of the turkish self-imposed red line - no kurds will be allowed to move west of the euphrates reiver. the calculation trap/revenge would be - if the syrian kurds did move west and the turkish jets would automatically try to prevent it by violating the syrian airspace, the russian jets would be presented with a perfect casus belli for shooting them down 'over non-nato airspace while violating the neighbor'.

other than that, the ipg is not of much more use for the russians.
 
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python said:
blutto said:
.....the latest Pepe on the Syrian situation....as always well worth a read....

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/17/syria-shatters-pentagon-dream/

Cheers
indeed, well worth the read and as always - colourful. pepe is spot on re many points, particularly about the obama team and turkey (though, i'd argue obama does have balls when his bird-size brain is made up), but pepe also in my view rushed to some grand strategy conclusions...perhaps, his piece was written before vladmir clarified a lot in his extended Q/A today. anyway, i listened to the france 24 extended coverage. here's where vlad seems to take a more modest stance than pepe saw it for him. granted, vlad should never be taken too literally.

- the extended military stay in syria was anything, but dismissed by vlad. yes, a tad surprising. the quick-hand, 'a permanent base in syria ? i am not sure...it's one thing to set up a temporary facility as now which took us 2 days to fly in and quite another to pay hard cash for a permanent base we may not need. after all, we can reach ANYONE by other means when and if we need.'

-per pepe: the potential russian air cover for the syrian kurds - the ypg and, most importantly, the ypg becoming the connecting link for all kurds in the 3 syrian regions. pepe may very well be correct about the russian sympathy for ypg, but as of now they are the us anti-isis asset and its not likely the americans would voluntarily hand over the valuable asset to the russians. keep in mind, the syrian kurds real worth is not their fight with isis, which is what's fed to the public, but that they control appr. 500 to 600 kn of the turkish border.

herein lies the most provocative issue - will the russians try to trap the turks (and take the revenge)by taking advantage of the turkish self-imposed red line - no kurds will be allowed to move west of the euphrates reiver. the calculation trap/revenge would be - if the syrian kurds did move west and the turkish jets would automatically try to prevent it by violating the syrian airspace, the russian jets would be presented with a perfect casus belli for shooting them down 'over non-nato airspace while violating the neighbor'.

other than that, the ipg is not of much more use for the russians.
This bold paragraph is interesting. I think the Kurdish and Russian strat is something the Russians might have had in mind.
 
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Glenn_Wilson said:
python said:
blutto said:
.....the latest Pepe on the Syrian situation....as always well worth a read....

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/17/syria-shatters-pentagon-dream/

Cheers
indeed, well worth the read and as always - colourful. pepe is spot on re many points, particularly about the obama team and turkey (though, i'd argue obama does have balls when his bird-size brain is made up), but pepe also in my view rushed to some grand strategy conclusions...perhaps, his piece was written before vladmir clarified a lot in his extended Q/A today. anyway, i listened to the france 24 extended coverage. here's where vlad seems to take a more modest stance than pepe saw it for him. granted, vlad should never be taken too literally.

- the extended military stay in syria was anything, but dismissed by vlad. yes, a tad surprising. the quick-hand, 'a permanent base in syria ? i am not sure...it's one thing to set up a temporary facility as now which took us 2 days to fly in and quite another to pay hard cash for a permanent base we may not need. after all, we can reach ANYONE by other means when and if we need.'

-per pepe: the potential russian air cover for the syrian kurds - the ypg and, most importantly, the ypg becoming the connecting link for all kurds in the 3 syrian regions. pepe may very well be correct about the russian sympathy for ypg, but as of now they are the us anti-isis asset and its not likely the americans would voluntarily hand over the valuable asset to the russians. keep in mind, the syrian kurds real worth is not their fight with isis, which is what's fed to the public, but that they control appr. 500 to 600 kn of the turkish border.

herein lies the most provocative issue - will the russians try to trap the turks (and take the revenge)by taking advantage of the turkish self-imposed red line - no kurds will be allowed to move west of the euphrates reiver. the calculation trap/revenge would be - if the syrian kurds did move west and the turkish jets would automatically try to prevent it by violating the syrian airspace, the russian jets would be presented with a perfect casus belli for shooting them down 'over non-nato airspace while violating the neighbor'.

other than that, the ipg is not of much more use for the russians.
This bold paragraph is interesting. I think the Kurdish and Russian strat is something the Russians might have had in mind.
if an armchair strategist like python was able to figure out what vlad is plotting, you can be sure he'll try something else ;)

in the mean time, the morning's news from the m. east is curious. having dug himself deep, the sultan is trying to climb out: the oppressor of the palestinians and their fake defender have reached a deal behind their back.

Israel and Turkey reach deal to normalise ties: Report
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-and-turkey-reach-understanding-normalise-ties-report-1535476699

the article above did not refer to the KEY reason for the deal. squeezed by russia, turkey is desperate for the natual gas deal recently discovered off israel's shores. debkafile fills some void:

http://www.debka.com/newsupdate/14179/Breakthrough-to-normal-Turkish-Israeli-relations
The two parties agreed to launch negotiations without delay on the sale of Israeli offshore gas to Turkey. Ankara also offered to start talking about a pipeline to Europe via Turkey from the largest Israeli gas well, Leviathan, when it goes into production

also, in their continued pr assault on turkey, the russians have staged an unprecedented live broadcast opening of the turkey-down su-24 flight recorder. it is said it was done in front of international expert crew including a brit, some chinese, indians and even americans.

LIVE! Russian MoD Holds Briefing on Downed Su-24 Black Boxes Decoding
http://geopolitics.co/2015/12/18/liv-russian-mod-holds-briefing-on-downed-su-24-black-boxes-decoding/

if the fact of downing will be proven to take place over syria (which turkey denies), i wonder what's next for the sultan &#63
 
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python said:
Glenn_Wilson said:
python said:
blutto said:
.....the latest Pepe on the Syrian situation....as always well worth a read....

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/17/syria-shatters-pentagon-dream/

Cheers
indeed, well worth the read and as always - colourful. pepe is spot on re many points, particularly about the obama team and turkey (though, i'd argue obama does have balls when his bird-size brain is made up), but pepe also in my view rushed to some grand strategy conclusions...perhaps, his piece was written before vladmir clarified a lot in his extended Q/A today. anyway, i listened to the france 24 extended coverage. here's where vlad seems to take a more modest stance than pepe saw it for him. granted, vlad should never be taken too literally.

- the extended military stay in syria was anything, but dismissed by vlad. yes, a tad surprising. the quick-hand, 'a permanent base in syria ? i am not sure...it's one thing to set up a temporary facility as now which took us 2 days to fly in and quite another to pay hard cash for a permanent base we may not need. after all, we can reach ANYONE by other means when and if we need.'

-per pepe: the potential russian air cover for the syrian kurds - the ypg and, most importantly, the ypg becoming the connecting link for all kurds in the 3 syrian regions. pepe may very well be correct about the russian sympathy for ypg, but as of now they are the us anti-isis asset and its not likely the americans would voluntarily hand over the valuable asset to the russians. keep in mind, the syrian kurds real worth is not their fight with isis, which is what's fed to the public, but that they control appr. 500 to 600 kn of the turkish border.

herein lies the most provocative issue - will the russians try to trap the turks (and take the revenge)by taking advantage of the turkish self-imposed red line - no kurds will be allowed to move west of the euphrates reiver. the calculation trap/revenge would be - if the syrian kurds did move west and the turkish jets would automatically try to prevent it by violating the syrian airspace, the russian jets would be presented with a perfect casus belli for shooting them down 'over non-nato airspace while violating the neighbor'.

other than that, the ipg is not of much more use for the russians.
This bold paragraph is interesting. I think the Kurdish and Russian strat is something the Russians might have had in mind.
if an armchair strategist like python was able to figure out what vlad is plotting, you can be sure he'll try something else ;)

in the mean time, the morning's news from the m. east is curious. having dug himself deep, the sultan is trying to climb out: the oppressor of the palestinians and their fake defender have reached a deal behind their back.

Israel and Turkey reach deal to normalise ties: Report
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-and-turkey-reach-understanding-normalise-ties-report-1535476699

the article above did not refer to the KEY reason for the deal. squeezed by russia, turkey is desperate for the natual gas deal recently discovered off israel's shores. debkafile fills some void:

http://www.debka.com/newsupdate/14179/Breakthrough-to-normal-Turkish-Israeli-relations
The two parties agreed to launch negotiations without delay on the sale of Israeli offshore gas to Turkey. Ankara also offered to start talking about a pipeline to Europe via Turkey from the largest Israeli gas well, Leviathan, when it goes into production

also, in their continued pr assault on turkey, the russians have staged an unprecedented live broadcast opening of the turkey-down su-24 flight recorder. it is said it was done in front of international expert crew including a brit, some chinese, indians and even americans.

LIVE! Russian MoD Holds Briefing on Downed Su-24 Black Boxes Decoding
http://geopolitics.co/2015/12/18/liv-russian-mod-holds-briefing-on-downed-su-24-black-boxes-decoding/

if the fact of downing will be proven to take place over syria (which turkey denies), i wonder what's next for the sultan &#63

....curious indeed....things are getting a wee bit topsy turby in that neck of the woods ain't they....Erdogan seems to be dancing for his life ( or maybe not )....wonder if the folks back at State are burning the midnight oil trying to create a situation that is less of an absolute disaster.....because even by their low standards this is one jim-dandy clusterfuck....

Cheers

...edit....just occurred to me ....since Israel and Turkey have no common border how is the gas going to get to Turkey ?....and oh forgot one little detail On 19 October 2015, Putin and Netanyahu agreed to allow major concessions for Gazprom to develop the Leviathan reserves....this is getting very complisticated ain't it ?....
 
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....and speaking of one more chapter in this ongoing clusterfuck....
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"The nightmare scenario of U.S. geopolitical strategists seems to be coming true: foreign economic independence from U.S. control. Instead of privatizing and neoliberalizing the world under U.S.-centered financial planning and ownership, the Russian and Chinese governments are investing in neighboring economies on terms that cement Eurasian economic integration on the basis of Russian oil and tax exports and Chinese financing. The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) threatens to replace the IMF and World Bank programs that favor U.S. suppliers, banks and bondholders (with the United States holding unique veto power).

Russia’s 2013 loan to Ukraine, made at the request of Ukraine’s elected pro-Russian government, demonstrated the benefits of mutual trade and investment relations between the two countries. As Russian finance minister Anton Siluanov points out, Ukraine’s “international reserves were barely enough to cover three months’ imports, and no other creditor was prepared to lend on terms acceptable to Kiev. Yet Russia provided $3 billion of much-needed funding at a 5 per cent interest rate, when Ukraine’s bonds were yielding nearly 12 per cent.”[1]

What especially annoys U.S. financial strategists is that this loan by Russia’s sovereign debt fund was protected by IMF lending practice, which at that time ensured collectability by withholding new credit from countries in default of foreign official debts (or at least, not bargaining in good faith to pay). To cap matters, the bonds are registered under London’s creditor-oriented rules and courts.

On December 3 (one week before the IMF changed its rules so as to hurt Russia), Prime Minister Putin proposed that Russia “and other Eurasian Economic Union countries should kick-off consultations with members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) on a possible economic partnership.”[2] Russia also is seeking to build pipelines to Europe through friendly instead of U.S.-backed countries."

....and....

"To U.S. neocons this specter of AIIB government-to-government lending and investment creates fear of a world independent of U.S. control. Nations would mint their own money and hold each other’s debt in their international reserves instead of borrowing or holding dollars and subordinating their financial planning to the IMF and U.S. Treasury with their demands for monetary bloodletting and austerity for debtor countries. There would be less need for foreign government to finance budget shortfalls by selling off their key public infrastructure privatizing their economies. Instead of dismantling public spending, the AIIB and a broader Eurasian economic union would do what the United States itself practices, and seek self-sufficiency in basic needs such as food, technology, banking, credit creation and monetary policy.

With this prospect in mind, suppose an American diplomat meets with the leaders of debtors to China, Russia and the AIIB and makes the following proposal: “Now that you’ve got your increased production in place, why repay? We’ll make you rich if you stiff our New Cold War adversaries and turn to the West. We and our European allies will help you assign the infrastructure to yourselves and your supporters, and give these assets market value by selling shares in New York and London. Then, you can spend your surpluses in the West.”

How can China or Russia collect in such a situation? They can sue. But what court will recognize their claim – that is, what court that the West would pay attention to?

That is the kind of scenario U.S. State Department and Treasury officials have been discussing for more than a year. The looming conflict was made immediate by Ukraine’s $3 billion debt to Russia falling due by December 20, 2015. Ukraine’s U.S.-backed regime has announced its intention to default. U.S. lobbyists have just changed the IMF rules to remove a critical lever on which Russia and other governments have long relied to enforce payment of their loans."

....and....

"The more nakedly self-serving and geopolitical U.S. policy is – in backing radical Islamic fundamentalist outgrowths of Al Qaeda throughout the Near East, right-wing nationalist governments in Ukraine and the Baltics – the greater the catalytic pressure is growing for the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, AIIB and related Eurasian institutions to break free of the post-1945 Bretton Woods system run by the U.S. State, Defense and Treasury Departments and NATO superstructure.

The question now is whether Russia and China can hold onto the BRICS and India. So as Paul Craig Roberts recently summarized my ideas along these lines, we are back with George Orwell’s 1984 global fracture between Oceanea (the United States, Britain and its northern European NATO allies) vs. Eurasia."

....the article.... http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/18/the-imf-changes-its-rules-to-isolate-china-and-russia/ ....is long but well worth a read because in the long run this may be the most important part of the clusterfuck.......

Cheers
 
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...oh my this is embarrassing....
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By Brandon Turbeville

A recent successful hacking of three ISIS supporters’ Twitter accounts has revealed that the source of these accounts is not located in Syria or Iraq but in the UK and Saudi Arabia.

According to a report by the UK Mirror, a group of four hackers known as VandaSec hacked the ISIS accounts and linked them back to the Department of Work and Pensions in the UK. Indeed, according to the hackers, the accounts are being run from Internet addresses that can be traced back to the DWP.

The Mirror reports that VandaSec showed them the IP addresses used by a group of three separate jihadists (digital ones at least) to access their Twitter accounts. What appeared at first to suggest that the IP addresses were based in Saudi Arabia soon revealed that the addresses linked back to the DWP in the UK.

“VandaSec’s work has sparked wild rumours suggesting someone inside the DWP is running ISIS-supporting accounts, or they were created by intelligence services as a honeypot to trap wannabe jihadis,” Jasper Hamill writes.

The Mirror then claims to have traced the IP addresses shown to them by VandaSec and allegedly found that the addresses pointed to “a series of unpublicized transactions between Britain and Saudi Arabia.”

The Mirror reports it has learned that the British government sold a significant number of IP addresses to two Saudi Arabian firms and, after the sale in October, the IP addresses were being used to spread ISIS propaganda. These IP addresses were apparently not the only ones sold to Saudi Arabia in October, however, but little information is available as to how many others were sold and what they are being used for.

But while the sale of the IP addresses might shift the blame from the UK government on the Saudi Arabian government, the question still remains as to how and why the addresses can be traced back to the DWP.

Some argue that the addresses can be traced back to the UK because the address records had not been fully updated yet. The UK Cabinet Office has officially admitted to selling IP addresses to a number of Saudi Telecom and Mobile Telecommunications Company (based in Saudi Arabia) earlier this year. Still, the question of why the Twitter accounts bear a bit more explanation, at least officially, as to why they can be traced back to Britain.

Regardless, the fact that these Twitter accounts are active in Saudi Arabia and are operating with scant regard for any possibility of being discovered and punished is telling enough. Also, the fact that Twitter, generally cooperative with national governments, has yet to eliminate them should serve as an example to many that both the West and certainly the GCC are entirely uninterested in truly eliminating ISIS as a terrorist organization. Instead, the goal is clearly to continue to use it as a proxy army against non-cooperative governments and non-compliant populations the world over.

As Kerry-Anne Mendoza wrote for The Canary,

So what we have here is ever-increasing overreach by the government; a government who continually erode our civil liberties and right to privacy in the name of security, while applying such minimal measures to their own practices that they sold their own IP addresses to ISIS.

While Americans and the Western world are being relentlessly hammered with propaganda describing ISIS as the greatest threat to humanity justifying polices and surveillance states, it must be asked how members of the most notorious terrorist organization in the world can freely tweet and propagandize using social media linked to the UK.

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......more weird....file under with friends like this ?....or..... one move and the Pollack dies ?......
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"Polish military police have raided a Nato-affiliated counterintelligence centre in Warsaw in the latest of a series of moves by the country’s new rightwing government to consolidate its hold on power.

The raid took place at 1.30am on Friday at the temporary offices of the Nato Counter Intelligence Centre of Excellence. According to the Gazeta Wyborcza newspaper, senior aides of Antoni Macierewicz, the defence minister, accompanied by military police, entered the building using a duplicate key.

The centre’s night staff called the director, Col Krzysztof Dusza, but he was prevented from entering. A defence ministry spokesman said Dusza had not responded to an order to step down from the post.

Any such change of management was supposed to have been a matter of consultation with Nato and the Slovak government, which is a partner in the centre. Neither Nato nor Slovak officials could confirm whether any such consultation had taken place.

The former Polish defence minister Tomasz Siemoniak told reporters: “Nothing like this has happened in the history of Nato, that a member state attacks a Nato facility.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/18/polish-military-police-raid-nato-centre-warsaw

....given the bolded is there a possibility that Poland gets bombed into the Stone Age ?....


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....the shakeup in and around the Syrian mess...?.....or, why is Erdogan dancing so hard...here are some thoughts, speculative maybe, but from a source who has a very annoying habit of being right....
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December 19, 2015 "Information Clearing House" - This has been an amazing week. While last week I concluded that “The only way to avoid a war is to finally give up, even if that is initially denied publicly, on the “Assad must go” policy”. Now it is true that various US officials, including Kerry, did make statements about the fact that Assad need not go right now, that a “transition” was important or that “the institutions of the state” had to be preserved, but of course what I, and many others really meant, was that the US needed to fundamentally change its policy towards the Syrian conflict. Furthermore, since Turkey committed an act of war against Russia under the “umbrella” of the US and NATO, this also created a fantastically dangerous situation in which a rogue state like Turkey could have the impression of impunity because of its membership in NATO. Here again, what was needed was not just a positive statement, but a fundamental change in US policy.

There is a possibility that this fundamental change might have happened this week. Others have a very different interpretation of what took place and I am not categorically affirming that it did – only time will show – but at least it is possible that it has. Let’s look at what happened.

First, there were some very unambiguous statements from John Kerry in Moscow. The most noticed ones were:


“As I emphasized today, the United States and our partners are not seeking so-called “regime change,” as it is known in Syria” source.

“Now, we don’t seek to isolate Russia as a matter of policy, no” source.

Now, I am acutely aware that Kerry has “lost” every single negotiation he has had with the Russians and I have written about that many times. I am also aware that Kerry has a record of saying A while with the Russians and non-A as soon as he gets back home. Finally, I also understand that Kerry is not the one really making the decisions but that this is what the US “deep state” does. But with all those caveats in mind, it is undeniable that these two statements constitute an official, if not necessarily factual, 180 degree turn, an abandonment of official US goals towards both Russia and Syria. Furthermore, we have seen not only words, but actual actions from the Americans. First, the US and Russia have agreed to draft a common list of “recognized terrorists” (as opposed to “moderate” freedom fighters). While it is debatable as to who will end up on the “good guys list”, it is certain that all those who matter in Syria – al-Qaeda and Daesh – will make it to the “bad guys” list. That, in turn, will make it much harder, but not impossible (remember the Contras!) for the US to continue to assist and finance them. But the US did something even more interesting:

The USA announced that it was withdrawing 12 of its F-15s from Turkey, 6 F-15C and 6 F-15E. Now this might not look like much, but these are highly symbolic aircraft as they are the aircraft which were suspected of “covering” for the Turkish F-16s which shot down the Russian SU-24. The F-15Cs, in particular, are pure air-to-air fighters which could only have been directed at the Russian aircraft in Syria. Of course, the US declared that this was a normal rotation, that it has been an exercise, but the bottom line is here: while NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg had promised to reinforce the NATO presence in Turkey, the US just pulled out 12 of its top of the line aircraft. Compare that with the Russians who continued to increase their capabilities in Syria, especially their artillery (see here, here and here). Furthermore, there is this very interesting news item: “Erdogan’s Spin Machine Now Blames Su-24 Shoot-Down on Turkish Air Force Chief”. Read the full article, it appears that there is a trial balloon launched in the Turkish social media to blame the downing of the SU-24 on the Turkish Air Force Chief (nevermind that Erdogan publicly declared that he personally gave that order). "

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"Finally, Russia succeeded in getting a unanimous decision of the UNSC to adopt a Russian resolution targeting Daesh finances. Needless to say, if the Resolution was officially aimed at Daesh money sources, it really puts Qatar, Saudi Arabia and, especially, Turkey in a very difficult situation: not only does the Resolution foresee sanctions against any country or entity dealing with Daesh, but the investigation of any claims of such financial relationships will be conducted by the UN. According to Russia Today,


The resolution also asks countries to report on what they have accomplished in disrupting IS’ financing within the next 120 days. It also calls on UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to write up a “strategic-level report” analyzing IS’ sources of revenue within 45 days. “We are counting on it to be a very concrete and honest report,” Churkin told RT. Churkin also mentioned Turkey’s involvement in the illegal oil trade with IS, stressing that Turkish individuals as well as companies could be sanctioned under the resolution. He added that countries could even be sanctioned “if it turned out that [one of them] has not implemented enough effective measures against the fight of financial terrorism.” According to the UN envoy, Russia was the only member that could provide proof of concrete schemes used by other countries to engage in illegal oil trade with Islamic State or how IS able to use the revenue from those transactions to purchase weapons from other countries, particularly from a few in Eastern Europe. The document, which is based on UN Charter Article VII and takes effect immediately, calls for members to “move vigorously and decisively to cut the flow of funds” to IS. It says that governments must prevent its citizens from funding or providing services to “terrorist organizations or individual terrorists for any purpose, including but not limited to recruitment, training, or travel, even in the absence of a link to a specific terrorist act.”

So not only do the Russians now have the means to channel their intelligence about the collaboration between Daesh and Turkey to the UNSC, but the Secretary General will now produce a report based, in part, on this intelligence. This is all very, very bad news for Ankara.

So what is happening here?

Here is what I think might have happened.

My hypothesis

First, the downing of the Russian SU-24 is becoming a major liability. The Russians have immediately claimed that this was a carefully planned and cowardly ambush, but now top western experts agree. This is very embarrassing, and it could get much worse with the deciphering of the flight recorders of the SU-24 (which the Russians have found and brought to Moscow). The picture which emerges is this: not only was this a deliberate provocation, an ambush, but there is overwhelming evidence that the Turks used the information the Russians have provided to the USA about their planned sorties. The fact that the Americans gave that information to the Turks is bad enough, but the fact that the Turks then used that information to shoot down a Russian aircraft makes the US directly responsible. The USA is also responsible by the simple fact that there is no way the Turks could have set up this complex ambush without the USA knowing about it. Now, it is possible that some in the US military machine knew about it while others didn’t. This entire operation sounds to me like exactly the kind of goofball plan the CIA is famous for, so maybe Kerry at State or even Obama did not really “know” about it. Or they did and are now pretending like they did not. Whatever may be the case, the US is now obviously trying to “off-load” this latest screwup on Erdogan who himself is trying to off-load it on his Air Force chief. What is certain is that the plan failed, the Russians did not take the bait and did not retaliate militarily, and that now the political consequences of this disaster are starting to pile up. As for Erdogan, he wanted to come out of this as the Big Pasha, the tough man of the region, but he now looks like an irresponsible coward (Putin ridiculed how the Turks ran to NATO as soon as the Russian SU-24 was shot down when he said: ”they immediately ran to Brussels, shouting: “Help, we have been hurt.” Who is hurting you? Did we touch anybody there? No. They started covering themselves with NATO.”). Even the US and Europe are, reportedly, fed up and angry with him. As for the Russians, they seem to believe that he is a “Saakashvili v2” – a guy with whom there is nothing to discuss and whom the Kremlin considers as politically dead."

....from... http://www.unz.com/tsaker/week-eleven-of-the-russian-intervention-in-syria-a-step-back-from-the-brink/

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....there were earlier in this thread mentions of something called Gladio....find below a link to a nice quick look-see at some of the wonders of this operation....and yeah it reeks of conspiracy but do keep the following in mind....

"A late 19th century French president, Jean Casimir-Perrier, put it pithily: “all political power is permanent conspiracy.” ( which even a quick drive by study of history will illustrate conclusively ....the trick is not to spot a conspiracy, because they are everywhere, it is the air that political power breathes, but rather to identify the prime movers and the strings attached...)

....from... http://www.unz.com/emargolis/italys-puppet-master/

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the middle east continues to dazzle me as if everyone gone mad or the realpolitik just hit another low... :(

i posted recently about the strange,petrol-shekels based turkish-israeli accommodation. turkey fakes a defender of the palestinians against their true jailers, the israelis...and yet, part of the deal was that turkey would squeeze out one of the palestinian leaders residing in turkey...wtf

today i read that israel just lobbed 4 missiles in a damascus residence of some hezbollah leader killing him. what's truly amazing was that the official damascus called it a terror act while w/o mentioning israel. moreover, none of the western msm i saw had commented on the obvious question: how was it possible for the israeli planes to penetrate the recently beefed up russian aerial umbrella over syria ? did the russians conspire in the assassination ?
and if so, why the deafening western silence NOW that obama and vlad had managed to generated a toothless, useless unsc 'unanimous resolution' to fight the isis ?

the boundless duplicity is all around :mad:
 
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So Sy Hersh latest LRB piece, asserts the military to military relationship with the Russians is quite good with Pentagon, and the other public above the fold/radar, is mass media that we plebs receive.

my words, not Sy's


oh, and this would render moot my conspiracy that the Russian airliner could have possibly been dirty tricks. When their diplomatic relations are so much for effective
 
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python said:
the middle east continues to dazzle me as if everyone gone mad or the realpolitik just hit another low... :(

i posted recently about the strange,petrol-shekels based turkish-israeli accommodation. turkey fakes a defender of the palestinians against their true jailers, the israelis...and yet, part of the deal was that turkey would squeeze out one of the palestinian leaders residing in turkey...wtf

today i read that israel just lobbed 4 missiles in a damascus residence of some hezbollah leader killing him. what's truly amazing was that the official damascus called it a terror act while w/o mentioning israel. moreover, none of the western msm i saw had commented on the obvious question: how was it possible for the israeli planes to penetrate the recently beefed up russian aerial umbrella over syria ? did the russians conspire in the assassination ?
and if so, why the deafening western silence NOW that obama and vlad had managed to generated a toothless, useless unsc 'unanimous resolution' to fight the isis ?

the boundless duplicity is all around :mad:

....get a coffee and a comfortable chair here is more stuff from the WTF file to further complicate any understanding of what is going on in the Middle East...

.....we start with trouble on another front ....Armenia is having trouble with Azerbaijan, shots have been reported in that "hood" ....

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/12/armenia-accuses-azerbaijan-war-151222134855846.html

...and as blackcat reports Seymour Hersh drops another bombshell on the official story of what is going on in Syria...here are some good words on that matter...

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"The US generals, Hersh wrote, criticized what they see as Obama’s fixation on Putin, and believed the president had not adjusted his stance on Syria even though Russia and the United States shared anxiety about the spread of terrorism in and beyond Syria.

In the summer of 2013, the Joint Chiefs discovered that Turkey had co-opted the CIA's program to arm so-called "moderate" Syrian rebels. Ankara decided to redirect US aid to Islamic extremists, including the Islamic State, also known as Daesh, and the al-Qaeda affiliate al-Nusra Front, Hersh explained.

The Joint Chiefs also discovered that viable moderate Syrian rebels did not exist and that the opposition consisted nearly uniformly of extremists, Hirsh added."
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Read more: http://sputniknews.com/us/20151222/1032120744/obama-policies-syria.html#ixzz3v9PxnBPL


http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military

....and...

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/12/how-a-critic-of-hershs-new-piece-fails-to-understand-what-really-happened.html

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