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....Stiglitz on the Euro, the EU, and brexit....nice read...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/aug/10/joseph-stiglitz-the-problem-with-europe-is-the-euro

Why would well-intentioned statesmen and women, attempting to forge a stronger, more united Europe, create something that has had the opposite effect? The founders of the euro were guided by a set of ideas and notions about how economies function that were fashionable at the time, but that were simply wrong. They had faith in markets, but lacked an understanding of the limitations of markets and what was required to make them work. The unwavering faith in markets is sometimes referred to as market fundamentalism, sometimes as neoliberalism. Market fundamentalists believed, for instance, that if only the government would ensure that inflation was low and stable, markets would ensure growth and prosperity for all. While in most of the world market fundamentalism has been discredited, especially in the aftermath of the 2008 global financial crisis, those beliefs survive and flourish within the eurozone’s dominant power, Germany. These beliefs are held with such conviction and certainty, immune to new contrary evidence, that they are rightly described as an ideology. Similar ideas, pushed by the IMF and the World Bank around the globe, led to a lost quarter-century in Africa, a lost decade in Latin America, and a transition from communism to the market economy in the former Soviet Union and eastern Europe that was, to say the least, a disappointment.

Germany, however, holds itself out as a success, providing an example of what other countries should do. Its economy has grown by 6.8% since 2007, but at an average growth rate of just 0.8% a year – a number that, under normal circumstances, would be considered close to failing. (By comparison, the US growth rate in the same period averaged 1.2%.) It’s also worth noting that developments in Germany before the crisis, in the early 2000s – when the country adopted reforms that aggressively cut into the social safety net – came at the expense of ordinary workers, especially those at the bottom. While real wages stagnated (by some accounts decreased), the gap between those at the bottom and the middle increased – by 9% in less than a decade. And through the early years of the century, poverty and inequality increased as well. Germany is talked about as a “success” only by comparison with the other countries of the eurozone.

It is perhaps natural that the eurozone’s leaders want to blame the victim – to blame the countries in recession or depression or reeling from a referendum result – for bringing about this state of affairs. They do not want to blame themselves and the great institutions that they have helped create, and which they now head. But blaming the victim will not solve the euro problem – and it is in large measure unfair.

....funny who Stiglitz ends up calling the fools in this scenario....and it ain't the great unwashed...

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Very interesting article. I am no economist but one thing I never understood about Great Britain's role in the EU was why didn't they adopt the Euro currency if they thought belonging to the EU was such a good thing and why was Great Britain allowed to do this. To me they seem to have played a senior role politically along with Germany and France but they sort of had one leg in Europe and the other outside it. Just a thought.

...yeah I'm no economist either though I often play one on the interwebs, but I digress...... yeah that is a bit of a mystery ain't it.....

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[blutto]

....more fun and frivolity from the glorious revolution.....

When a Russian FSB agent and a Russian soldier were killed by a team of Ukrainian saboteurs, and one of the captured Ukrainians was shown on Russian media in handcuffs, US ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt tweeted

“US government has seen nothing so far that corroborates Russians allegations of a ‘Crimea incursion’ & Ukraine has strongly refuted them.”

Apparently two dead Russians don’t count for much in Pyatt’s book: perhaps Putin personally killed them, and the whole thing is a set up.

And how has Ukraine “strongly refuted” this accusation? According to the Ukrainian authorities, the captured would-be saboteur, one Yevgeny Panov, was “kidnapped” from his home town in Zaporizhia – a distance of some 200 miles – by the Russians and transported to Crimea. The Ukrainian police have solemnly announced that "We are taking all necessary measures to promptly, fully and impartially investigate all circumstances of this crime.” One has to admire the ability of the Ukrainian authorities to utter the most portentous absurdities with the perfect aplomb of a used car dealer, but of course their skills don’t even begin to approach Pyatt’s. The ambassador followed up his tweet with another that stated:

“Russia has a record of frequently levying false accusations at Ukraine to deflect attention from its own illegal actions.”

Speaking of deflection, the lobbying group for NATO, the Atlantic Council, has a long account of the incident here, notable for its obscurantism. However, after going on about various confusing “narratives” – including speculation that the saboteurs may be Russian deserters, or even that they “may not exist at all” – the pretense of objectivity forces the Atlanticists to admit, after several paragraphs of blowing smoke, that, yes,

“Because of the arrest of Panov, it has become clear that the Armyansk incident was not invented by the FSB, as many have claimed online, though details provided are difficult to verify.”

Well, that’s progress, at any rate: acknowledging reality. And of course the details are difficult to verify, since Western “news” accounts are heavily colored, like this NPR piece which doesn’t mention that the Russians captured several of the saboteurs, and doesn’t mention Panov, but wonders why the Russians “waited three days” to report the incident. This Bloomberg account has not one detail about the incident: instead, we are treated to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko’s denials that anything at all took place, “analysis” by an “expert” that “no one trusts” anybody else, calculations on the sinking of the Ukrainian currency, and warnings about how Putin supposedly has a habit of launching military operations in the midst of the Olympic games. This Associated Press dispatch, published in the New York Times, is similarly bereft of details, and gets the number of Russian casualties wrong: they claim only one Russian died. The rest is “analysis” by various “experts,” claiming that the whole thing is a diversion – oddly, the same line peddled by Ambassador Pyatt – to which are added the author’s own description of Putin’s reaction as “menacing.” The BBC helpfully adds that, while Panov may have been a “volunteer” fighter, he was “more recently” associated with “a charitable organization.”

Since when do members of “charitable” organizations wear camouflage while sneaking over heavily-guarded borders in the dead of night?

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/08/11/ukraines-october-surprise/

....and this wee comment about Killary....

So why should we care about this showdown at the Ukrainian corral, anyway?

It’s important because the Ukrainians – like the rest of the world – have been watching the US presidential campaign, and they don’t like what they see. Donald Trump, while disdaining to get involved in Ukraine’s feud with the Kremlin, is asking “Wouldn’t it be good if we could get along with Russia?” This has provoked the Ukrainians into paroxysms of spittle-flecked hysteria. On the other hand, Hillary Clinton is openly accusing Donald Trump of being a Russian agent: former CIA chief Mike Morrell, in the process of endorsing her, said Trump is an “unwitting agent” of the FSB. And the “mainstream” media, which is brazenly campaigning on Clinton’s behalf, has been playing the Trump-is-a-Russian-stooge card for all it’s worth.

In short, the leaders of Ukraine hate Trump, have continually denounced him, and are openly rooting for a Clinton victory in November: by launching a terrorist attack on Crimea, and before that trying to assassinate the President of the rebellious Luhansk Republic in eastern Ukraine – they put a bomb under his car, seriously injuring him – they hope to provoke Putin into taking military action. And voila!, we have an “October surprise” – with Hillary taking a hard-line anti-Russian stance, and Trump put in the position of seeming to defend Russian “aggression.”

It’s a perfect set up, for both the Ukrainians – who have been chafing at President Obama’s refusal to provide them with deadly arms – and for Hillary, whose McCarthyite campaign against Trump has taken on all the trappings of a cold war fear-fest of the sort we haven’t seen since the 1950s.

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[gooner]

Arrest warrant for Hakan Suker.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-turkey-security-soccer-idUKKCN10N1FX?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=57ae01be04d301472132d39d&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

 

[python]

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....more fun and frivolity from the glorious revolution.....

When a Russian FSB agent and a Russian soldier were killed by a team of Ukrainian saboteurs, and one of the captured Ukrainians was shown on Russian media in handcuffs, US ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt tweeted

“US government has seen nothing so far that corroborates Russians allegations of a ‘Crimea incursion’ & Ukraine has strongly refuted them.”

Apparently two dead Russians don’t count for much in Pyatt’s book: perhaps Putin personally killed them, and the whole thing is a set up.

And how has Ukraine “strongly refuted” this accusation? According to the Ukrainian authorities, the captured would-be saboteur, one Yevgeny Panov, was “kidnapped” from his home town in Zaporizhia – a distance of some 200 miles – by the Russians and transported to Crimea. The Ukrainian police have solemnly announced that "We are taking all necessary measures to promptly, fully and impartially investigate all circumstances of this crime.” One has to admire the ability of the Ukrainian authorities to utter the most portentous absurdities with the perfect aplomb of a used car dealer, but of course their skills don’t even begin to approach Pyatt’s. The ambassador followed up his tweet with another that stated:

“Russia has a record of frequently levying false accusations at Ukraine to deflect attention from its own illegal actions.”

Speaking of deflection, the lobbying group for NATO, the Atlantic Council, has a long account of the incident here, notable for its obscurantism. However, after going on about various confusing “narratives” – including speculation that the saboteurs may be Russian deserters, or even that they “may not exist at all” – the pretense of objectivity forces the Atlanticists to admit, after several paragraphs of blowing smoke, that, yes,

“Because of the arrest of Panov, it has become clear that the Armyansk incident was not invented by the FSB, as many have claimed online, though details provided are difficult to verify.”

Well, that’s progress, at any rate: acknowledging reality. And of course the details are difficult to verify, since Western “news” accounts are heavily colored, like this NPR piece which doesn’t mention that the Russians captured several of the saboteurs, and doesn’t mention Panov, but wonders why the Russians “waited three days” to report the incident. This Bloomberg account has not one detail about the incident: instead, we are treated to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko’s denials that anything at all took place, “analysis” by an “expert” that “no one trusts” anybody else, calculations on the sinking of the Ukrainian currency, and warnings about how Putin supposedly has a habit of launching military operations in the midst of the Olympic games. This Associated Press dispatch, published in the New York Times, is similarly bereft of details, and gets the number of Russian casualties wrong: they claim only one Russian died. The rest is “analysis” by various “experts,” claiming that the whole thing is a diversion – oddly, the same line peddled by Ambassador Pyatt – to which are added the author’s own description of Putin’s reaction as “menacing.” The BBC helpfully adds that, while Panov may have been a “volunteer” fighter, he was “more recently” associated with “a charitable organization.”

Since when do members of “charitable” organizations wear camouflage while sneaking over heavily-guarded borders in the dead of night?

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/08/11/ukraines-october-surprise/

....and this wee comment about Killary....

So why should we care about this showdown at the Ukrainian corral, anyway?

It’s important because the Ukrainians – like the rest of the world – have been watching the US presidential campaign, and they don’t like what they see. Donald Trump, while disdaining to get involved in Ukraine’s feud with the Kremlin, is asking “Wouldn’t it be good if we could get along with Russia?” This has provoked the Ukrainians into paroxysms of spittle-flecked hysteria. On the other hand, Hillary Clinton is openly accusing Donald Trump of being a Russian agent: former CIA chief Mike Morrell, in the process of endorsing her, said Trump is an “unwitting agent” of the FSB. And the “mainstream” media, which is brazenly campaigning on Clinton’s behalf, has been playing the Trump-is-a-Russian-stooge card for all it’s worth.

In short, the leaders of Ukraine hate Trump, have continually denounced him, and are openly rooting for a Clinton victory in November: by launching a terrorist attack on Crimea, and before that trying to assassinate the President of the rebellious Luhansk Republic in eastern Ukraine – they put a bomb under his car, seriously injuring him – they hope to provoke Putin into taking military action. And voila!, we have an “October surprise” – with Hillary taking a hard-line anti-Russian stance, and Trump put in the position of seeming to defend Russian “aggression.”

It’s a perfect set up, for both the Ukrainians – who have been chafing at President Obama’s refusal to provide them with deadly arms – and for Hillary, whose McCarthyite campaign against Trump has taken on all the trappings of a cold war fear-fest of the sort we haven’t seen since the 1950s.

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i was way too long in the mountains to claim being abreast with the story, but some things (both in the ukrainian and the russian versions) don't quite jive..

to begin with, a claim that mr panov was kidnapped is clearly idiotic after the ukrainian admission he was indeed an ukrainian citizen somehow surfacing in the disputed crimea. moreover, i had attempted to follow a publicly available interrogation of the alleged terrorist panov...though my understanding admittedly was limited, there was the man's own admission of belonging to the ukrainian military intelligence... and that he was a regular in the ukrainian military fighting against the Russia-supported, independent republics of luhansk and donetzs. and here comes the uki friendly bit that he was 'compelled' to talk. indeed, the man's face was covered with the traces of much beating to somehow assume he wasn't softened as anyone caught with the illegal explosives would have been in that part of the world.... yet, he said all the things no western msm have reported including the precise plans and the intelligence directorate that sent him...

needless to mention that the medvedev mention of breaking the diplomatic relations over the ukrainian terrorism threat was just another medved (the bear) 'aggression'.

that the ukrainian indignation at the bear went as far as calling for the unsc session to condemn the bear tells me they weren't far from the cowardly reaction not dissimilar to the turkish panic when they invoked the nato collective defense chapter after shooting down the bomber that never entered their airspace and for which the turks apologized...

all cowards are the same - hiding behind someone's bigger backs after causing a mischief

 

[blutto]

....hmmm, a Ukrainian contribution to the Hillbilly campaign perhaps ?....

Tensions between Russia and Ukraine are continuing to rise after an incident was reported over the weekend in which an attempted group of infiltrators from Ukraine entered Crimea, killing a Russian soldier and a member of their FSB security service. Russia has blamed the Ukrainian government’s spy agency, calling it a prelude to terror attacks on key infrastructure.

Residents reported yesterday that Ukraine had begun massing soldiers along the Crimean border, and today President Petro Poroshenko reported that he had placed the army on “combat alert” over the issue, with other Ukrainian officials claiming a full-scale war could began “at any minute.”

Ukraine has claimed a Russian buildup on the other side of the border, though this appears only related to the already announced Russian Navy war games in the Black Sea, and has only involved some additional military helicopters and drones flying along the border region.

Russian President Vladimir Putin did, however, announce that additional security measures would be put in place around critical infrastructure in the Crimean Peninsula, amid fear of sabotage, and said more measures would be taken to prevent future infiltration.

Despite Ukraine’s denials that this most recent event took place, and claims that it’s entirely a Russian invention, sabotage is a serious concern in the peninsula. Twice over the past year, pylons within Ukraine’s Kershon region have been sabotaged cutting off power supplies into the peninsula, with Ukrainian nationalists engaged in efforts to prevent the repairs.

http://news.antiwar.com/2016/08/11/ukraine-puts-army-on-combat-alert-along-crimea-border/

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[movingtarget]

Putin Making Changes

http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACPLKh239P3pgFWq+1dkB9ZeFrsVx796OF+2dAS6MN8DsSmlRBc0tWCdK+Rc8saJ9j0bJQjifVxnQZFlPEEt7SNnZ6+gx8L5x9c4KsAyRIbPtia9cFbXttNVu1cWQhBB3lj8UgU+gDxlz&campaign_id=129&instance_id=80517&segment_id=93587&user_id=12d98412e3bcc0522f6cfbf4c21c54e6&regi_id=42685115

 

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Putin Making Changes

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....hmmm.... the NYT, which used to be a newspaper, quoting some from someone ultimately tied to the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace .....so who exactly is that tied to ?....

A cabal of neo-conservative policy wonks first sketched what I call the Great Leap Backward into lawlessness as a revival of the myth of the frontier in the 1990s. “The Plan for a New American Century” (PNAC) envisaged the 21st century as a unilateralist drive to entrench American values globally—what the PNAC ideologues call “freedom and democracy”—through preemptive wars and regime change. This frenzied delirium of US military domination turned into official foreign policy with the Bush Doctrine after 9/11, but it was the Clinton administration’s Doctrine of Humanitarian Warfare before 9/11, that shut the door on the prohibition of aggressive wars by the UN Charter, remaking the map of the world into a borderless American hunting reserve by removing the principle of sovereignty and replacing it with “right to protect” (R2P)—or humanitarian pretext for use of force.

Clinton’s doctrine was an act of supreme, even witty, exploitation of liberal principles and commitment to policies of human rights. It was how the liberal left was induced to embrace war and imperialism as the means of defending human rights. The Carnegie Endowment cooked up the doctrine in 1992. Its report, “Changing Our Ways: America’s Role in the New World,” urged “a new principle of international relations: the destruction or displacement of groups of people within states can justify international intervention.” The report recommended that the US use NATO as the enforcer. It must be noted, too, that the principle of “humanitarian war” has no authority in international law. The Charter of the United Nations sought to outlaw war by making it impossible for unilateral interventions in the business of sovereign states by self-appointed guardians of human rights. The reason behind the proscription was not heartlessness but the consciousness that WW II had been the result of serial violations of sovereignty by Germany, Italy, and Japan—by militarist imperialism, in other words.

The bell tolled for the UN and the old order in the 1999 Kosovo War. The bi-partisan effort to dismantle the architecture of the post war’s legal order played out there. With the Kosovo War, the Clinton administration launched the first humanitarian war and set the precedent for waging war without Security Council clearance of many to follow by both Republican and Democrat administrations. The Clintonites who used NATO to bomb Serbia to protect ethnic Albanians in Kosovo from non-existing Serbian genocide may or may not have appreciated the fact that Hitler had used the pretext of R2P—humanitarian intervention—to launch WW II by claiming to protect German minorities in Poland, but they certainly knew that the monopoly on use of force rested with the UN’s Security Council. This monopoly was secured after WW II precisely to prevent unilateral attacks on sovereign states through bogus claims of altruistic interventions, such as Hitler had championed and pursued. Ironically for critics of the Soviet leader, it was Stalin who insisted at the Yalta Conference that if the USSR were to join the United Nations a veto in the Security Council was a must to insure that any war would be a multilateral consensus and a multilateral action.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/13/the-great-leap-backward-americas-illegal-wars-on-the-world/

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[BullsFan22]

So I guess countries are not allowed to send troops along ITS borders when they feel threatened.

 

[blutto]

So I guess countries are not allowed to send troops along ITS borders when they feel threatened.

....curious, which countries and whose borders...?.....

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[movingtarget]

A Tangled Web Re Paul Manafort in Ukraine

http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACPLKh239P3pgFWq+1dkB9ZdKgE1b92jrxEAixyMyL3eTvc4VcxDvPDFh31//wFWZ+NWkgkEQxm8e2b/KCQnAeeT+UkknS5UBbP13V9i8crQr5dh/8i8Sg9dCc4UxMKraDxSf128Tk2MW8nMwELIg/2Y=&campaign_id=129&instance_id=80607&segment_id=93671&user_id=12d98412e3bcc0522f6cfbf4c21c54e6&regi_id=42685115

 

[blutto]

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A Tangled Web Re Paul Manafort in Ukraine

http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACPLKh239P3pgFWq+1dkB9ZdKgE1b92jrxEAixyMyL3eTvc4VcxDvPDFh31//wFWZ+NWkgkEQxm8e2b/KCQnAeeT+UkknS5UBbP13V9i8crQr5dh/8i8Sg9dCc4UxMKraDxSf128Tk2MW8nMwELIg/2Y=&campaign_id=129&instance_id=80607&segment_id=93671&user_id=12d98412e3bcc0522f6cfbf4c21c54e6&regi_id=42685115

....yeah of course the glorious revolution is being led by the purest of the pure 110% non-corrupt saintly people...and they are good friends of that freedom loving Hillary Rotten Clinton which in and of itself is the official certified seal of good housekeeping and freedom and apple pie and ice cream and did I mention freedom ?.... ....

....funny that this would be brought up at this particular time by that particular former paper of record....and even funnier that this pathetic shell of a news outlet did not take a peak at the current situation in The Ukraine, which is much worse than the situation they are commenting on ( was going to say reporting but that would be an insult to genuine reporting )....more corrupt, more incompetent , more evil but on the plus side they do have friends in high places that get things done and cover things up real good.....and these friends will be in higher places soon so all is even more much good...and the NYT will have more juicy press releases to paraphrase ( you know to keep the people abreast of stuff that is important with stuff direct from the horses mouth )....

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[fatandfast]

So what will be the opinion and position of most of Western Europe as Russia acts an azz but there gas and oil is making everything run...?

 

[blutto]

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So what will be the opinion and position of most of Western Europe as Russia acts an azz but there gas and oil is making everything run...?

....sorry and don't mean to be a bigger ar$e than I usually am but could you please maybe do a re-write because the post is a wee bit wonky...

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[fatandfast]

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So what will be the opinion and position of most of Western Europe as Russia acts an azz but there gas and oil is making everything run...?

....sorry and don't mean to be a bigger ar$e than I usually am but could you please maybe do a re-write because the post is a wee bit wonky...

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Yes sir. I wonder if all the big gas guzzling economies will have squat to say to Putin as he annexed land that doesn't belong to him. Germany says little as she use gas to heat homes and run enormous machines. The dependency on Russian petroleum products is probably troubling on many levels to many purchasers but so far no government has been very vocal about it's supplier invading other countries

 

[blutto]

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So what will be the opinion and position of most of Western Europe as Russia acts an azz but there gas and oil is making everything run...?

....sorry and don't mean to be a bigger ar$e than I usually am but could you please maybe do a re-write because the post is a wee bit wonky...

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yes
Yes sir. I wonder if all the big gas guzzling economies will have squat to say to Putin as he annexed land that doesn't belong to him. Germany says little as she use gas to heat homes and run enormous machines. The dependency on Russian petroleum products is probably troubling on many levels to many purchasers but so far no government has been very vocal about it's supplier invading other countries

....hmmm....well I guess they could have pushed harder to bring forward the EU/Russia aid package that Putin proposed to help the Ukrainian economy...as it was they just stood back and allowed the Nuland putsch to go forward....so now they have to deal with the blowback their cowardice precipitated....

....so bring me up to speed here, who has Russia annexed ? ( and in your response please explain your thoughts on how and why did this happened )....and who has Russia invaded ?....is this a recent development ?....

...as for dependency on gas/oil....well geez isn't this just a golden opportunity to ween the EU off fossil fuels....just a thought eh...its going to have to happen sooner or later....will keep the bear from the door and in the long run will probably be a lot cheaper than WW3, and as an added bonus the body count would be approaching zero...as I said just a thought...

....or Europe can continue being widdle wee dog at the end of a leash and continue doing the bidding of the lunatics in Washington ( who btw would just love The Ukraine to devolve into another Syria...and wouldn't that just be a super dooper boon for Europe...)

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[movingtarget]

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A Tangled Web Re Paul Manafort in Ukraine

http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACPLKh239P3pgFWq+1dkB9ZdKgE1b92jrxEAixyMyL3eTvc4VcxDvPDFh31//wFWZ+NWkgkEQxm8e2b/KCQnAeeT+UkknS5UBbP13V9i8crQr5dh/8i8Sg9dCc4UxMKraDxSf128Tk2MW8nMwELIg/2Y=&campaign_id=129&instance_id=80607&segment_id=93671&user_id=12d98412e3bcc0522f6cfbf4c21c54e6&regi_id=42685115

....yeah of course the glorious revolution is being led by the purest of the pure 110% non-corrupt saintly people...and they are good friends of that freedom loving Hillary Rotten Clinton which in and of itself is the official certified seal of good housekeeping and freedom and apple pie and ice cream and did I mention freedom ?.... ....

....funny that this would be brought up at this particular time by that particular former paper of record....and even funnier that this pathetic shell of a news outlet did not take a peak at the current situation in The Ukraine, which is much worse than the situation they are commenting on ( was going to say reporting but that would be an insult to genuine reporting )....more corrupt, more incompetent , more evil but on the plus side they do have friends in high places that get things done and cover things up real good.....and these friends will be in higher places soon so all is even more much good...and the NYT will have more juicy press releases to paraphrase ( you know to keep the people abreast of stuff that is important with stuff direct from the horses mouth )....

Cheers

Yes you have wonder about the timing. A bit of tit for tat going on I think. Funny thing even though Manafort's name is mentioned many times they kept stressing that he has not be tied directly to anything illegal ! As if political donations, meddling and off shore bank accounts are anything new in international politics or business.

 

[blutto]

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A Tangled Web Re Paul Manafort in Ukraine

http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACPLKh239P3pgFWq+1dkB9ZdKgE1b92jrxEAixyMyL3eTvc4VcxDvPDFh31//wFWZ+NWkgkEQxm8e2b/KCQnAeeT+UkknS5UBbP13V9i8crQr5dh/8i8Sg9dCc4UxMKraDxSf128Tk2MW8nMwELIg/2Y=&campaign_id=129&instance_id=80607&segment_id=93671&user_id=12d98412e3bcc0522f6cfbf4c21c54e6&regi_id=42685115

....yeah of course the glorious revolution is being led by the purest of the pure 110% non-corrupt saintly people...and they are good friends of that freedom loving Hillary Rotten Clinton which in and of itself is the official certified seal of good housekeeping and freedom and apple pie and ice cream and did I mention freedom ?.... ....

....funny that this would be brought up at this particular time by that particular former paper of record....and even funnier that this pathetic shell of a news outlet did not take a peak at the current situation in The Ukraine, which is much worse than the situation they are commenting on ( was going to say reporting but that would be an insult to genuine reporting )....more corrupt, more incompetent , more evil but on the plus side they do have friends in high places that get things done and cover things up real good.....and these friends will be in higher places soon so all is even more much good...and the NYT will have more juicy press releases to paraphrase ( you know to keep the people abreast of stuff that is important with stuff direct from the horses mouth )....

Cheers

Yes you have wonder about the timing. A bit of tit for tat going on I think. Funny thing even though Manafort's name is mentioned many times they kept stressing that he has not be tied directly to anything illegal ! As if political donations, meddling and off shore bank accounts are anything new in international politics or business.

...yes yes and yes...

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[python]

the vlad bombers attack their syrian targets directly from their new iranian base
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/russian-bombers-launched-iran-bomb-syrian-rebels-609946408

i find it a rather significant new development israel and the us may not like... before, the bombers required an iranian permission for the over flight...this follows the noises of the joint military operations with the us being about concluded and the russian-turkish warmup (that i still dont understand) supposedly aimed at closing the turkish border to the extremists...

this is all too optimistic to lift the confusion

 

[BullsFan22]

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the vlad bombers attack their syrian targets directly from their new iranian base
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/russian-bombers-launched-iran-bomb-syrian-rebels-609946408

i find it a rather significant new development israel and the us may not like... before, the bombers required an iranian permission for the over flight...this follows the noises of the joint military operations with the us being about concluded and the russian-turkish warmup (that i still dont understand) supposedly aimed at closing the turkish border to the extremists...

this is all too optimistic to lift the confusion

Syria, Iran, Turkey, Russia, China? Add in the other BRICS, and potential other partnerships brewing...Things are getting rather dangerous, I think.

 

[blutto]

Re: Re:

the vlad bombers attack their syrian targets directly from their new iranian base
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/russian-bombers-launched-iran-bomb-syrian-rebels-609946408

i find it a rather significant new development israel and the us may not like... before, the bombers required an iranian permission for the over flight...this follows the noises of the joint military operations with the us being about concluded and the russian-turkish warmup (that i still dont understand) supposedly aimed at closing the turkish border to the extremists...

this is all too optimistic to lift the confusion

Syria, Iran, Turkey, Russia, China? Add in the other BRICS, and potential other partnerships brewing...Things are getting rather dangerous, I think.

...well the Merikans put a lot of effort into setting this table...unfortunately now they are going to have to eat at it...worse case scenario, they may end up with a double portion of gruel....

Cheers

 

[python]

if you are interested in the subject, a must-read brilliant article by pepe escobar. perhaps the best i ever read by him ...concise historical backgrounder, verifiable facts, crisp and lucid analysis ---it's all there... explains china's intransigence, the philippine puppetry, the japanese and the west's colonial responsibility...

The Real Secret of the South China Sea

http://opednews.com/articles/The-Real-Secret-of-the-Sou-by-Pepe-Escobar-American-Hegemony_China-Politics_Secretary-Of-State-Hillary-Clinton_South-China-Sea-160726-726.html

 

[blutto]

Re:

if you are interested in the subject, a must-read brilliant article by pepe escobar. perhaps the best i ever read by him ...concise historical backgrounder, verifiable facts, crisp and lucid analysis ---it's all there... explains china's intransigence, the philippine puppetry, the japanese and the west's colonial responsibility...

The Real Secret of the South China Sea

http://opednews.com/articles/The-Real-Secret-of-the-Sou-by-Pepe-Escobar-American-Hegemony_China-Politics_Secretary-Of-State-Hillary-Clinton_South-China-Sea-160726-726.html

....good 'un....thanks for posting that link...

Cheers

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Re:

if you are interested in the subject, a must-read brilliant article by pepe escobar. perhaps the best i ever read by him ...concise historical backgrounder, verifiable facts, crisp and lucid analysis ---it's all there... explains china's intransigence, the philippine puppetry, the japanese and the west's colonial responsibility...

The Real Secret of the South China Sea

http://opednews.com/articles/The-Real-Secret-of-the-Sou-by-Pepe-Escobar-American-Hegemony_China-Politics_Secretary-Of-State-Hillary-Clinton_South-China-Sea-160726-726.html

Thanks for putting this up.

You've been a bit quiet on the latest happenings in the Ukraine. Any thoughts?

I noticed just yesterday or today that some media in the west is paying some attention to it. Not that their reporting of what is really going on there is accurate just that they are paying attention which is a bit more than before.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Re: Re:

the vlad bombers attack their syrian targets directly from their new iranian base
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/russian-bombers-launched-iran-bomb-syrian-rebels-609946408

i find it a rather significant new development israel and the us may not like... before, the bombers required an iranian permission for the over flight...this follows the noises of the joint military operations with the us being about concluded and the russian-turkish warmup (that i still dont understand) supposedly aimed at closing the turkish border to the extremists...

this is all too optimistic to lift the confusion

Syria, Iran, Turkey, Russia, China? Add in the other BRICS, and potential other partnerships brewing...Things are getting rather dangerous, I think.

It is a bit.

People seem to go through life these days not realizing the potential danger the world could be in. Even now I speak with people from Merikah and other countries who are under the impression that countries in the world do not seek power or that they do not particularly care for other countries gaining any power. More and more to the edge of a war in my opinion.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Putin, yet another beta male's dream propped up by men's feelings of inadequacy and a gigantic repression apparatus.