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i have now watched for close to 2hr the german election results via the 2 most relevant euro hubs - the DW and france24. including a listen to live pressers by 4 new bundestag parties.

frankly, i am being shocked, shocked, shocked and am rushing to shock you :razz:

shock#1: not one party leader or a high official accused vlad of their defeat. NONE.
shock#2: not one party leader or a high official blamed another party for their defeat or a voter loss.
shock#3: every one of the 4 party leaders i just heard, took FULL responsibility for their electoral results

consequently, it seems there will be no secret service investigations into each other emails, underwear, race etc thus denying me the laughs i am so used to in america.

WTF is wrong with the boring germans... even the french -forget the us - are more entertaining :lol:
 
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i have now watched for close to 2hr the german election results via the 2 most relevant euro hubs - the DW and france24. including a listen to live pressers by 4 new bundestag parties.

frankly, i am being shocked, shocked, shocked and am rushing to shock you :razz:

shock#1: not one party leader or a high official accused vlad of their defeat. NONE.
shock#2: not one party leader or a high official blamed another party for their defeat or a voter loss.
shock#3: every one of the 4 party leaders i just heard, took FULL responsibility for their electoral results

consequently, it seems there will be no secret service investigations into each other emails, underwear, race etc thus denying me the laughs i am so used to in america.

WTF is wrong with the boring germans... even the french -forget the us - are more entertaining :lol:

....yeah, unbelievable disappointment.....truly shocking.....how can those people live with themselves......

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python said:
i have now watched for close to 2hr the german election results via the 2 most relevant euro hubs - the DW and france24. including a listen to live pressers by 4 new bundestag parties.

frankly, i am being shocked, shocked, shocked and am rushing to shock you :razz:

shock#1: not one party leader or a high official accused vlad of their defeat. NONE.
shock#2: not one party leader or a high official blamed another party for their defeat or a voter loss.
shock#3: every one of the 4 party leaders i just heard, took FULL responsibility for their electoral results

consequently, it seems there will be no secret service investigations into each other emails, underwear, race etc thus denying me the laughs i am so used to in america.

WTF is wrong with the boring germans... even the french -forget the us - are more entertaining :lol:

....yeah, unbelievable disappointment.....truly shocking.....how can those people live with themselves......

Cheers
as our good stooge friend semper would say, too many are pussies :)

and think about it, for all we know even their neo-nazis are pussies compared to their ukrainian brothers. why else would the nazis be illegal in germany but get on the pedestal - literally (i mean the bandera statutes and his ilk) - in lviv, kiev etc :idea: :Question:
 
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python said:
blutto said:
python said:
i have now watched for close to 2hr the german election results via the 2 most relevant euro hubs - the DW and france24. including a listen to live pressers by 4 new bundestag parties.

frankly, i am being shocked, shocked, shocked and am rushing to shock you :razz:

shock#1: not one party leader or a high official accused vlad of their defeat. NONE.
shock#2: not one party leader or a high official blamed another party for their defeat or a voter loss.
shock#3: every one of the 4 party leaders i just heard, took FULL responsibility for their electoral results

consequently, it seems there will be no secret service investigations into each other emails, underwear, race etc thus denying me the laughs i am so used to in america.

WTF is wrong with the boring germans... even the french -forget the us - are more entertaining :lol:

....yeah, unbelievable disappointment.....truly shocking.....how can those people live with themselves......

Cheers
as our good stooge friend semper would say, too many are pussies :)

and think about it, for all we know even their neo-nazis are pussies compared to their ukrainian brothers. why else would the nazis be illegal in germany but get on the pedestal - literally (i mean the bandera statutes and his ilk) - in lviv, kiev etc :idea: :Question:

....yeah our exceptional freedom fighting best buddies ever........lest we forget eh....

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python said:
i have now watched for close to 2hr the german election results via the 2 most relevant euro hubs - the DW and france24. including a listen to live pressers by 4 new bundestag parties.

frankly, i am being shocked, shocked, shocked and am rushing to shock you :razz:

shock#1: not one party leader or a high official accused vlad of their defeat. NONE.
shock#2: not one party leader or a high official blamed another party for their defeat or a voter loss.
shock#3: every one of the 4 party leaders i just heard, took FULL responsibility for their electoral results

consequently, it seems there will be no secret service investigations into each other emails, underwear, race etc thus denying me the laughs i am so used to in america.

WTF is wrong with the boring germans... even the french -forget the us - are more entertaining :lol:
A true Shocker. No one blamed the Russians. I feel a bit cheated on this.
 
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Semper Fidelis said:
python said:
i have now watched for close to 2hr the german election results via the 2 most relevant euro hubs - the DW and france24. including a listen to live pressers by 4 new bundestag parties.

frankly, i am being shocked, shocked, shocked and am rushing to shock you :razz:

shock#1: not one party leader or a high official accused vlad of their defeat. NONE.
shock#2: not one party leader or a high official blamed another party for their defeat or a voter loss.
shock#3: every one of the 4 party leaders i just heard, took FULL responsibility for their electoral results

consequently, it seems there will be no secret service investigations into each other emails, underwear, race etc thus denying me the laughs i am so used to in america.

WTF is wrong with the boring germans... even the french -forget the us - are more entertaining :lol:
A true Shocker. No one blamed the Russians. I feel a bit cheated on this.

....yeah and with all that carefully crafted innuendo already in place....truly a shocker....I mean can't people just connect the dots and scream in the correct horror....

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...has anyone wondered, why we have the us, the british or the world political threads, and none, NONE, N-O-N-E about the euro or -to put it bluntly, and realistically - the modern (or past) deutschland

the answer is very simple. the post ww2 germany, as most euros should agree with, was that the germans (largely) were TIMID and discrete given their past.

that timidness was discarded today with the german far right party (AfD) winning the unprecedented 13% making it the 3d party in germany and very represented in the parliament.

is the 13% to be scared of ? imo, yes (and no) b/c, ironically, we are dealing with a truly proportional, german-eurpean system.

yes, b/c they have just achieved their personal record in the background of the merkel roughly 1/3 score of the total electorate... no, b/c they are still refused by virtually all center-right or left -center parties.

it certainly would be nice if more germans contribute to what we have just seen :)

keep in mind, the merkel party is a clear winner, BUT only with barely 1/3 of the german voters opinions.

the western msm may have you deluded about the mutter victory, but she, in all actuality, collected even less than the trump folks in the us. ...proportionally speaking.

looking forward with a lot of excitement to the eu (and the european) foreign policy given the german elections !!!

Regarding the German vote similar things have been seen in other countries and then stalled such as Austria and the Netherlands and the failed referendum in Switzerland and UKIP lost a lot of ground at the last UK election. Hungary and Poland have also shifted to the right. The anti immigration vote may struggle to make further inroads in the future. But the immigration issues in Europe won't be going anywhere in the short term so Germany could be an interesting case. Then you have the proposed immigration changes with the UK and Brexit which are already contentious. What stands out in the German vote is the percentage of voters voting for the right wing. Some people seem to be a bit nervous..........
 
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Syria - U.S. CentCom Declares War On Russia

By Moon Of Alabama

September 25, 2017 "Information Clearing House" - Yesterday three high ranking Russian officers were killed in an "ISIS attack" in eastern-Syrian. It is likely that they were killed by U.S. special forces or insurgents under U.S. special forces control. The incident will be understood as a declaration of war.

For three years ISIS had besieged Syrian troops in Deir Ezzor city and its airport. It had not once managed to successfully attack the Syrian headquarter or to kill high ranking officers. Now, as U.S. proxy forces "advised" by U.S. special forces, have taken position north of Deir Ezzor, "ISIS" suddenly has the intelligence data and precision mortar capabilities to kill a bunch of visiting Russian officers?

That is not plausible. No one in Damascus, Baghdad, Tehran or Moscow will believe that.

The Russian military, as usual, reacts calmly and officially attributes the attack to ISIS. Doing so avoids pressure to immediately react to the attack. (The U.S. will falsely interpret this as a face-saving Russian retreat.)

But no one in Moscow will believe that the incident is independent of other recent maneuvers by the U.S. forces and independent of the earlier accusations the Russian military made against the U.S. forces.

Nominally the U.S. and Russia are both in Syria to fight the Islamic State. The Russian troops are legitimately there, having been invited by the Syrian government. The U.S. forces have no legal justification for their presence. So far open hostilities between the two sides had been avoided. But as the U.S. now obviously sets out to split Syria apart, openly cooperates with terrorists and does not even refrain from killing Russian officers, the gloves will have to come off.

U.S. Central Command has declared war on the Russian contingent in Syria. A high ranking Russian general was killed. This inevitably requires a reaction. The response does not necessarily have to come from Russian forces. Moscow has many capable allies in the area. The response does not necessarily have to come in Syria.

"Accidents" and "incidents", like an "ISIS mortar attacks", or unintentional bombing of troop concentration of the other side, can happen on both sides of the front. Cars can blow up, bridges can collapse. Any U.S. officer or civilian official in the larger Middle East should be aware that they too are now targets.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/09/syria-us-centcom-declares-war-on-russia.html

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if true, it would be indicative of the new lows the us had fallen to...for now i will avoid posting any links (b/c i still read them and try to wrap my head around them)...

anyways, just heard that a us govt agency insists that rt register as a 'foreign agent'. as such, supposedly in the us legal system it would be equivalent to allowing everything about a 'foreighn agent' scrutinized by the fbi, cia or any other secret service...

i wonder, if the sudden change would have been imposed had the rt NOT been increasing its viewership/followers ?

seems like their message is hurting someone's official message ?

of course russia just threatened to respond in full mirror force.

which, if we are to take the proportions of the still ongoing diplomatic spat (where 700 to 800 american diplomats were expelled vs some 30-40 russian), the american media stands to get wiped out from moscow ?

why ? b/c the principle of free press is dead in america ?
 
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the still ongoing diplomatic spat (where 700 to 800 american diplomats were expelled vs some 30-40 russian),

From what I've read, the vast majority of the 750 or so people losing their jobs at the embassies were Russians, not Americans. But I've never seen any actual numbers. Have you?

What does seem accepted is that prior to Putin's announcement at the end of July, there were roughly 1300 people employed by U.S. embassies in Russia, of which about 75% were locals without diplomatic status. It was also reported that Putin said that in order to reduce the staff to about 450, America could eliminate the latter as well as diplomats (Edit: I now see that you mentioned this upthread). So it seems that relatively few Americans lost their jobs. But again, reporting on this seems to be sparse, at least in the American media. I raise this question with you, because I know you have access to other sources.

If most of those losing jobs are Russians, I'm wondering why Putin would do this, even if he felt he had to respond to the U.S. sanctions. It should also be mentioned that the U.S. retaliated to the embassy reduction a few weeks later by greatly reducing processing of non-immigrant visas to the U.S. As I understand it, there was a temporary halt to all processing till the end of the month (August), followed by a resumption, but at a greatly reduced scale, and only in Moscow. Russia of course is a huge country, and many people who planned to apply for such visas live very far from the capital, and can't get there easily.
 
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Merckx index said:
python said:
the still ongoing diplomatic spat (where 700 to 800 american diplomats were expelled vs some 30-40 russian),

From what I've read, the vast majority of the 750 or so people losing their jobs at the embassies were Russians, not Americans. But I've never seen any actual numbers. Have you?

What does seem accepted is that prior to Putin's announcement at the end of July, there were roughly 1300 people employed by U.S. embassies in Russia, of which about 75% were locals without diplomatic status. It was also reported that Putin said that in order to reduce the staff to about 450, America could eliminate the latter as well as diplomats. So it seems that relatively few Americans lost their jobs. But again, reporting on this seems to be sparse, at least in the American media. I raise this question with you, because I know you have access to other sources.

If most of those losing jobs are Russians, I'm wondering why Putin would do this, even if he felt he had to respond to the U.S. sanctions. It should also be mentioned that the U.S. retaliated to the embassy reduction a few weeks later by greatly reducing processing of non-immigrant visas to the U.S. As I understand it, there was a temporary halt to all processing till the end of the month (August), followed by a resumption, but at a greatly reduced scale, and only in Moscow. Russia of course is a huge country, and many people who planned to apply for such visas live very far from the capital, and can't get there easily.
i posted several times on the diplomatic tit-for-tat. on the numbers, on the motives, on the dynamics and the timing. if you wish, i can summarize it again. you'd have an easy time to scroll back...

anyways, the proportion of the locals employed at an embassy (either the russians in moscow or the americans in the us) is irrelevant to the spat diplomatic essence.

what is important (in my vew) is: why did the tit-for-tat start ? what was the relative staffing at when it started ? and which side demonstrated more patience (that is, more aptitude for avoiding a further escalation (which in the us 'my big dijk is bigger' practice is usually and rather stupidly looked at as 'we won'.

let me just state for brevity what i had posted before and which can be backed up by the easily available evidence.

1. obama started it by expelling 35 russians as a response to the supposed russia meddling in the us political system (as if the us never meddled in the russian or many other political systems). a self-deceptive double standard, unless one feels exceptional to a consistent and single standard.
2. the relative diplomatic staffing was (according to most reliable sources i saw) - 450 russians in the us (including 100+ at the un which is an entirely different count) and 1255 american diplomatic employees in russia. why the us needs 4 times as many in russia as the russians in the us I dont know. the simple point is a vast disparity which russia allowed to go on, but addressed as a part of their retaliation when it finally had to 7 month after just waiting for the us hysteria to subside. we dont know how many of those usa-paid russians were just cooks, sweeper or spies. the indisputable and verified fact remains - all the staff reductions were the us choice and none enforced by moscow.
3. all evidence points that russia was waiting for the us investigative hysteria of trump-russia connections to blow off. when the congress passed a law incapacitating trump wrt to anti-russia sanctions, they shot back witha rather harsh response.

my point is simply that they will again shoot back wrt to the rt/journalist spat. again, they play chess and the us plays my dijk is biigggggger.

we will have to see where it end. but having seen putin in action for many years now, i cant figure WHY the us politocos are so intellectually limited to realized - the intimidation does not work with this man :rolleyes:
 
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....some interesting thoughts on the ongoing mess, uhhh, fluid situation we refer to as the Middle East....some startling revelations revealed.....encourage reading of entire piece....

The referendum for the independence of Kurdistan is a fool’s game. The United States, which secretly supports it, claims in public to oppose it. France and the United Kingdom are doing the same, hoping that Washington will make their old dreams come true. Not to be outdone, Russia is hinting that although it is against any unilateral change, it might support independence… as long as everyone accepts the independence of Crimea, which means accepting its attachment to Moscow.

The degree of hypocrisy of the permanent members of the UN Security Council is such that they have so far been unable to give a ruling on this question, despite their apparent unanimity. They have not adopted any resolution (in other words, a text with international force of law), nor Presidential declaration (in other words a position common to the members of the Council) – nothing except an insipid Press release during their meeting on 19 September [1].

Currently, there exist eight non-recognised States – Abkhazia, North Cyprus, Nagorno-Karabagh, Kosovo, Ossetia, Western Sahara, Somaliland and Trasnistria. Two European regions are also hoping for independence – Catalonia and Scotland. Any modification of the status of Iraqi Kurdistan will have consequences for these ten countries.

The independence of Iraqi Kurdistan would be a tour de force, insofar as it would mean displacing Kurdistan, as it was recognised by the Sèvres Conference in 1920, from its current location on Turkish territory to Iraqi territory. Of course, everyone has become used to using the title Kurdistan to indicate this region, which, since 1991, has been subject to a slow and continual ethnic cleansing by London and Washington.

During « Desert Storm », this region was mainly inhabited by Iraqi Kurds. London and Washington made it a no-fly zone against President Hussein. They forced into power one of their collaborators from the Cold War, Massoud Barzani, who initiated the displacement of the non-Kurdish populations. The same Barzani, although he was twice re-elected since then, has maintained his grip on power for more than two years without a mandate. The National Assembly, which demanded his departure, has met only once since the end of his mandate to vote the principle of the referendum, but in the absence of Goran – a party which has continually denounced the feudal system of the Barzanis and the Talabanis, and the nepotism and the corruption which are the direct result. In fact, Massoud Barzani has been in power, without interruption, for the last 26 years.

From 1991 to 2003, the non-Kurds progressively left the no-fly zone, so that the region was proclaimed, with the defeat of President Hussein, as Iraqi Kurdistan.

On 1 June 2014, the secret services of Saudia Arabia, the United States, Israël, Jordan, the autonomous region of Iraqi Kurdistan, Qatar, the United Kingdom and Turkey organised, in Amman, (Jordan) a preparatory meeting for the invasion of Iraq by Daesh. We know of the existence of this meeting by the Turkish document that Özgür Gündem published immediately [2]. This daily newspaper – with whom I collaborated – has since been shut down by the « sultan » Recep Tayyip Erdoğan [3].

According to this document, it was agreed to coordinate Daesh and the region of Iraqi Kurdistan. The former launched a lightning offensive to capture Mosul, while the latter grabbed Kirkuk. Four days earlier, President Massoud Barzani had travelled to Jordan to talk to the participants of this meeting. He was careful not to take part in the meeting himself, but was represented by his son Masrour, the head of his own Intelligence services.

When Daesh invaded the part of Iraq that the United States had previously attributed to him, they profited from the occasion to imprison the Yezedis and bind them into slavery. Most of the Yezedis are Kurdish, but in conformity with the Amman agreement, the neighbouring Barzanis did not intervene, even when some of them fled into the Sinjar mountains. Those who fled were finally saved by the commandos of the Turkish PKK. The Turkish Kurds saved them all, whether they were Kurds or not. They used this victory to demand their recognition from the Western powers (who, since the Cold War, has viewed them as terrorists). The current revision of this affair by the Barzanis cannot erase their crime against their own people [4].

Another famous Kurd took part in the meeting in Amman – the Islamist Mullah Krekar. He was imprisoned in Norway, where he was serving a five-year sentence for having threatened, on TV, to kill Prime Minister Erna Solberg. He travelled to the Amman meeting in a NATO plane, and was taken back to his cell in the days that followed. He then revealed his allegiance to Daesh. He was not condemned for belonging to a terrorist organisation, but was offered a two-year remission of sentence and was freed. He then went on to direct Daesh in Europe, from Oslo, under the protection of NATO. Clearly, the Stay-behind network of the Atlantic Alliance is still operational [5]

https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2017/09/27/kurdistan-what-the-referendum-is-hiding/

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....this should be considered in conjunction with the following....

The following map was prepared by Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters. It was published in the Armed Forces Journal in June 2006, Peters is a retired colonel of the U.S. National War Academy. (Map Copyright Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters 2006).

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It has been written that Ralph Peters’ “four previous books on strategy have been highly influential in government and military circles,” but one can be pardoned for asking if in fact quite the opposite could be taking place. Could it be Lieutenant-Colonel Peters is revealing and putting forward what Washington D.C. and its strategic planners have anticipated for the Middle East?

http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/09/27/kurdistan-redrawing-middle-east-new-middle-east-project/

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Why China Will Never Crackdown on North Korea
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-china-will-never-crackdown-north-korea-22523

a couple quick comments...the author's view agrees completely with mine and expressed here consistently. the nor kor nukes and the fainted chinese 'cooperation' are the chinese geopolitical project to balance out the west in its hood.

where the author (i believe disingeniously b/c as a former diplomat he knows better) steps in a wah-wah land is that the unites states should be taken seriously re. the lack of the regime change intentions. only a complete idiot, much less a scared fat face, would believe that that the us is going to stick to its words or signatures. the iraqi and libya lessons are still fresh. now after so much investment the us withdrawing on the iran deal is even more telling.
 
The notion of US instigating regime change is a red herring to the whole conversation. The US does not possess a magic wand to remove unwanted leaders at a whim. It was equally spurious when the far left was warning that "Killary" actively wanted regime change in Russia. The fact that Kim has been left to his own devices for multiple presidents suggests how little threat the US is to Kim's throne.
 
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The notion of US instigating regime change is a red herring to the whole conversation. The US does not possess a magic wand to remove unwanted leaders at a whim. It was equally spurious when the far left was warning that "Killary" actively wanted regime change in Russia. The fact that Kim has been left to his own devices for multiple presidents suggests how little threat the US is to Kim's throne.

No.

South Korea has stealth cruise missiles. The only reason the guy is still consuming oxygen is because China won't be able to deal with the millions of NK refugees when the DPRK collapses.
 
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What care does the US or South Korea have for China's problems? You perfectly highlighted why the idea of regime change by the US is a boogeyman. If that is motivating Kim in this conflict, it is because he is a paranoid autocrat.

Hopefully you are kidding.

China is an economic powerhouse. Military too. They have a lot of influence both regionally and globally. Every developed nation is concerned about China and what concerns China.
 
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It seems like we are in agreement. Thank you for explaining why regime change will not happen whether Kim has nukes or not, which is why the issue is a red herring. The potential refugee problem is not a variable in the foreseeble future.

If China says "go" the Un's a dead man. At that point millions of refugees to China will be a better option than Un with his finger on the button.

Neither you or I are in a position to know the bolded above.
 
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Masked police in riot gear beating on peaceful protestors - throwing people from the stairs. Nice going, Rajoy. Enjoy your 'success'.
It's a disgrace, the guy did everything to make the conflict escalate and was the best ally of the separatists, over the last few years he was one of the main reasons why the support for an indipendent Catalonia went from 20% to a bit under 50%.
The whole situation was handled piss poor and Rajoy just wanted to show them who's really in charge.
 
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the mess over the catalonia referendum is too much...

i kinda sympathize with their right to choose sovereignty and independence, BUT - sort of like in a common divorce - it should be done properly. that is, at the right time, with the view of FAIRLY splitting property, debt, finances etc etc. even the very PRACTICAL POSSIBILITY of the success, particularly a chance of its acceptance by the eu and the neighbors should be considered by the split leaders.

none of it was present ! most blame should be leveled at madrid due to their absolutely inflexible, i'd even say totalitarian position. moreover, whatever was attempted was done incompetently...just take their central govt police failing to close the poling stations. if such an operation was considered it had to either be done with a lot more forces or just let go. the results of the failure was hundreds of injured voters, more emotions, more neutrals swinging to the separatists.

almost forgot my main thought - everyone is the loser in such a mess and the biggest loser is democracy.

what i primarily meant was that about half of the catalonians NOT in favour of the split instead of given an opportunity to express themselves, stayed home. again, its the central govt problem NOT working out a process to tap into ALL democratic layers,,,

in that regard, perhaps the british/scottish experience needs to be studied by the spanish ?
 
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