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and hedges was a correspondent in jerusalem, and in nicaragua and SAmerican v contras.blackcat said:
If anyone is a fan of Fiskie, he is not fit to shine Hedges shoes.
And on Fiskie, I'd love to talk to a psychologist inside Quantico and ask him or her, what she thinks, or he thinks, (i am channelling clarise of silence of lambs) what she thinks on Fiskie's more florid tales on Sheik Osama and if he is embellishing. I think he is personally. Or is Fiskie just using some artistic licence like he is a lit grad from Harrow?
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An American friend of mine sent me this story about how the latest Gaza war/conflict got started - very interesting read:
http://forward.com/articles/201764/how-politics-and-lies-triggered-an-unintended-war
http://forward.com/articles/201764/how-politics-and-lies-triggered-an-unintended-war
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A doff of the hat to my learned friend from Soviet Canuckistan for that excellent Hedges article. I go apoplectic every time an official Israeli spokesman appears to trot out 10 "terrorists" per sentence, "we do not deliberately target civilians," and the standard "rockets raining down".
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not sure if i am reposting this.
but some genius Mark Regev the Australian with kibbutzim sobriquet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqBTtXKKT_8
but some genius Mark Regev the Australian with kibbutzim sobriquet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqBTtXKKT_8
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ToreBear said:
re: recognition of the Jewish State.hrotha said:
it is just changing the goalposts, a diversion. a deflection, no concessions bar the Palestinians surrendering all notions and rights of statehood, the Israelis would reject. Nothing less than transfer would sate Bibi and the nationalists in the knesset.
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....find below links to a couple of articles about the high moral ground....one is from an obviously self-hating Jew....and wherein he says the following...
"The new Snowden documents illustrate a crucial fact: Israeli aggression would be impossible without the constant, lavish support and protection of the U.S. government, which is anything but a neutral, peace-brokering party in these attacks. And the relationship between the NSA and its partners on the one hand, and the Israeli spying agency on the other, is at the center of that enabling."
...from... https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/08/04/cash-weapons-surveillance/
....and this little ditty that looks at some of the thinking that underpins the recent actions of the high moral ground....seems these actions are informed by both some grotesque version of God and a reading of history that manages to totally ignore history's main contribution to Man's march forward into the future, that is, to learn to avoid mistakes that lead to trouble and failure....
"According to the author, Israeli-American Yochanon Gordon – a regular Times of Israel columnist – "the nature of this enemy" must "automatically cause the rules of standard warfare to be suspended." After arguing for a policy of genocide throughout the piece, Gordon poses a question to "humanitarians": "If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?"
Gordon’s answer is clear enough, in spite of his insincere-sounding "apology," but hey – you might say – this is just an opinion piece by someone who lives in Cedarhurst, New York: it doesn’t fairly reflect Israeli public opinion. Yet polls report most Israelis say the IDF isn’t using enough force in Gaza, and as for the Times of Israel: although they took down Gordon’s pro-genocide piece they published a very similar article that very day – which was not taken down – making essentially the same argument. Entitled "1 Samuel 15:18," the author – one Irwin Blank, another American with dual Israeli nationality – argues that the Jewish people have been pursued by "Amakelites" in one form or another throughout their history, and must finally take measures to eliminate their ancient nemesis. The title is a reference to this Biblical passage:..."
....from.. http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/08/03/israel-genocide-and-the-logic-of-zionism/
....oh and btw a word of warning to those here who are repulsed by the situation in Gaza and yet are ardent supporters of the glorious revolution in The Ukraine....that last article was written by someone who would be designated by some internet denizens as a Libertarian Putin Lover ( a new term that has sprung up to deal with a particularly virulent camp of critics of the glorious revolution, think of them as something akin to "self-hating political thinkers" )...so reading such stuff may infect you with a healthy dose of reality that could make your world-view veer off into a catastrophic spin and crash...
...edit...forgot to add this one... http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/05/israelis-adeptness-at-genocide/
...which contains the following...
"My New York Times Comment to Steven Erlanger and Jodi Rudoren’s article, “Gaza Operation to Last as Long as Needed,” (Aug. 2), which began the recent round of reports on Gaza, follows—except that it will no longer be found in the Comments section, having been deleted presumably because a reader found it objectionable (I entered a complaint to the Public Editor):
“[We] will exert as much force as needed.” This, despite leaving Gaza already a wasteland of rubble, having also attacked hospitals, power plants, UN shelter/schools, mosques–scenes reminiscent of World War 2 and possibly worse. Yet world Jewry applauds the war crimes of Israel, unable to see how much Israeli war lust defames, sullies, makes a mockery of Judaism itself, which over the last 150 years has been in the vanguard of human rights.
The real “self-hating” Jew is the Israeli, who blindly and bluntly tears apart the sublime ethics of Jewish philosophy. Israel hides behind Judaism to commit war crimes. It doesn’t get uglier than that. The Gaza invasion is GENOCIDE."
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"The new Snowden documents illustrate a crucial fact: Israeli aggression would be impossible without the constant, lavish support and protection of the U.S. government, which is anything but a neutral, peace-brokering party in these attacks. And the relationship between the NSA and its partners on the one hand, and the Israeli spying agency on the other, is at the center of that enabling."
...from... https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/08/04/cash-weapons-surveillance/
....and this little ditty that looks at some of the thinking that underpins the recent actions of the high moral ground....seems these actions are informed by both some grotesque version of God and a reading of history that manages to totally ignore history's main contribution to Man's march forward into the future, that is, to learn to avoid mistakes that lead to trouble and failure....
"According to the author, Israeli-American Yochanon Gordon – a regular Times of Israel columnist – "the nature of this enemy" must "automatically cause the rules of standard warfare to be suspended." After arguing for a policy of genocide throughout the piece, Gordon poses a question to "humanitarians": "If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?"
Gordon’s answer is clear enough, in spite of his insincere-sounding "apology," but hey – you might say – this is just an opinion piece by someone who lives in Cedarhurst, New York: it doesn’t fairly reflect Israeli public opinion. Yet polls report most Israelis say the IDF isn’t using enough force in Gaza, and as for the Times of Israel: although they took down Gordon’s pro-genocide piece they published a very similar article that very day – which was not taken down – making essentially the same argument. Entitled "1 Samuel 15:18," the author – one Irwin Blank, another American with dual Israeli nationality – argues that the Jewish people have been pursued by "Amakelites" in one form or another throughout their history, and must finally take measures to eliminate their ancient nemesis. The title is a reference to this Biblical passage:..."
....from.. http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/08/03/israel-genocide-and-the-logic-of-zionism/
....oh and btw a word of warning to those here who are repulsed by the situation in Gaza and yet are ardent supporters of the glorious revolution in The Ukraine....that last article was written by someone who would be designated by some internet denizens as a Libertarian Putin Lover ( a new term that has sprung up to deal with a particularly virulent camp of critics of the glorious revolution, think of them as something akin to "self-hating political thinkers" )...so reading such stuff may infect you with a healthy dose of reality that could make your world-view veer off into a catastrophic spin and crash...
...edit...forgot to add this one... http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/05/israelis-adeptness-at-genocide/
...which contains the following...
"My New York Times Comment to Steven Erlanger and Jodi Rudoren’s article, “Gaza Operation to Last as Long as Needed,” (Aug. 2), which began the recent round of reports on Gaza, follows—except that it will no longer be found in the Comments section, having been deleted presumably because a reader found it objectionable (I entered a complaint to the Public Editor):
“[We] will exert as much force as needed.” This, despite leaving Gaza already a wasteland of rubble, having also attacked hospitals, power plants, UN shelter/schools, mosques–scenes reminiscent of World War 2 and possibly worse. Yet world Jewry applauds the war crimes of Israel, unable to see how much Israeli war lust defames, sullies, makes a mockery of Judaism itself, which over the last 150 years has been in the vanguard of human rights.
The real “self-hating” Jew is the Israeli, who blindly and bluntly tears apart the sublime ethics of Jewish philosophy. Israel hides behind Judaism to commit war crimes. It doesn’t get uglier than that. The Gaza invasion is GENOCIDE."
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an alternative pov, please
there seems a rather rare almost unanimous negative view of the israeli actions in gaza...
i for one would appreciate a reasoned voice from inside israel, if there is such one around here, even if most likely i will take a difference with.
any ?
there seems a rather rare almost unanimous negative view of the israeli actions in gaza...
i for one would appreciate a reasoned voice from inside israel, if there is such one around here, even if most likely i will take a difference with.
any ?
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....here is a video featuring Michael Hudson discussing how the World Bank and IMF plan to "Dismantle" The Ukrainian economy....a very critical part of the discussion is below....
" DESVARIEUX: So, Michael, we've been covering Ukraine quite extensively. And I know you've been keeping track of things on the economic front. What's the latest?
HUDSON: Well, one of the things that has not been in the news is that a recent Senate bill, 2277, directed the U.S. Agency for International Development to begin guaranteeing loans for the fracking of oil and gas in the Ukraine. And Vice President Biden's son has become the head of the biggest fracking company in the Ukraine. And what's not usually known is that the armies from Kiev that are marching into the Eastern of Ukraine have been basically protecting the fracking equipment.
Now, for the last nine months, local cities in the east in Ukraine have said, wait a minute, we want local control over the fracking. The people in the city of Sloviansk wanted to oppose the shale gas field from being developed, 'cause they said, look, this is going to destroy our water supply and our land. And essentially what Kiev is doing is saying, well, you're terrorists if you're opposing the oil drilling."
...from... http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/25365-how-world-bank-and-imf-plan-to-dismantle-ukrainian-economy
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" DESVARIEUX: So, Michael, we've been covering Ukraine quite extensively. And I know you've been keeping track of things on the economic front. What's the latest?
HUDSON: Well, one of the things that has not been in the news is that a recent Senate bill, 2277, directed the U.S. Agency for International Development to begin guaranteeing loans for the fracking of oil and gas in the Ukraine. And Vice President Biden's son has become the head of the biggest fracking company in the Ukraine. And what's not usually known is that the armies from Kiev that are marching into the Eastern of Ukraine have been basically protecting the fracking equipment.
Now, for the last nine months, local cities in the east in Ukraine have said, wait a minute, we want local control over the fracking. The people in the city of Sloviansk wanted to oppose the shale gas field from being developed, 'cause they said, look, this is going to destroy our water supply and our land. And essentially what Kiev is doing is saying, well, you're terrorists if you're opposing the oil drilling."
...from... http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/25365-how-world-bank-and-imf-plan-to-dismantle-ukrainian-economy
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python said:
Maybe this interview with Israeli novelist and poet Amoz Oz, a longtime critic of the government's policies. The fact that even he supports some of the current action shows how nearly unanimous that view has become in Israel:
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Merckx index said:
I guess when you get rocket attacks over and over again the Jews end up unifying in action against that. Just a guess.
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thanks me. indeed an interesting interview, partcularly his opinion about prosperity being the only lasting and fair solution. i arrived to the very same conclusion about 10 yo and i have been telling it to my jewish friends, only to be dismissed by racist remarks. in response, i'd give them a little known example, nevertheless a proven fact, that of american arabs are far less frequently found among the terrorists recruits than, for instance, the european arabs...exactly because they are better integrated into the us society and on the average more prosperous. sure its an imperfect parallel, yet telling.Merckx index said:
an so on...i have to run out the door to pick up my daughter, more on the subject later, but i feel its important to leave a link to a 'rule-breaking' article that in my informed opinion is the first in the western msm telling some ugly truth about what's going on in ukrine
Ukraine keeps up anti-rebel offensive with nervous eye on Russia
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014...G50UW20140805?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews
most militaries would call it 'surrender' not a cross over, but thanks for some truth...
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blutto said:
euphemizm iz
honest broker
personally, Camp David and Oslo, Golda Meir would be more honest than Indyk, the Australian, aka Mega, the mega spy in Clinton, and Dennis Ross.
Golda > Martin Indyk + Dennis Ross wrt honesty and brokering. And she said there is no such thing as a Palestinian and the Palestinians never existed.
oy vey!
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oncearunner, pop-guns. rarely with munition warhead.Glenn_Wilson said:I guess when you get rocket attacks over and over again the Jews end up unifying in action against that. Just a guess.
and Israel have consistently shelled, obviously live munitions, Gaza.
see:ifAmericansknew.org
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Who is selling weapons and providing logistical and technical support to gadget bearing demagoge called BB? You guessed right! The ones who claim to be world gendarmes and owe the rest of the world 16.7 x 10^14th power(US dollars); The same ones who wouldn't fight their foes clean hands/one on one behind closed doors. The ones who haven't won a real war by themselves, alone, since 1898 when they defeated decaying spanish empire and stole Cuba, PR, Philippines, GUAM!!! After taking Florida; & Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Colorado, Oregon, Oklahoma,......(2/5 total area). The ones who look up to the Union*Jack flag but don't consider themselves part of the CommonWealth
Who is selling weapons and providing logistical and technical support to gadget bearing demagoge called BB? You guessed right! The ones who claim to be world gendarmes and owe the rest of the world 16.7 x 10^14th power(US dollars); The same ones who wouldn't fight their foes clean hands/one on one behind closed doors. The ones who haven't won a real war by themselves, alone, since 1898 when they defeated decaying spanish empire and stole Cuba, PR, Philippines, GUAM!!! After taking Florida; & Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Colorado, Oregon, Oklahoma,......(2/5 total area). The ones who look up to the Union*Jack flag but don't consider themselves part of the CommonWealth
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blackcat said:
That is the way I look at it also. I mean who gives a rats azz if someone is launching rockets that don't hit ****E.
I saw this report where the Gaza strip had been building these tunnels but I thought but hey that's nothing new. I figure they just use them to get out of the heat over there. I hear it is damn near a hundy and muggy like a biach.
I figure the next thing we will read is that Hammas wants to talk peace with the warmongering jews.
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i am still fascinated by the technical side of the nm17 tragedy. one question bugs me: whether the so-far available evidence points to a surface-to-air vs the air-to- air attack..
this lead me to a couple threads in euro forums dealing with aviation. the good news was that the forums are well moderated to keep the politics out. the bad news was that i often found my scientific expertise inadequate to fully understand some posts
people pour over available images, analyze inward/outward holes and their density, calculate the ordnance explosion distance and direction, make mapping charts etc.
i was particularly interested in ANY posts that would illuminate the possibility of the missile explosion ABOVE the plane as i am still unsure of the rooskie general claim that the buk always strikes from above. to be sure, i personally already concluded that it is more than possible in theory and practice. the million dollar question is whether the available photo and ballistic evidence points to such a strike.
for their analysis, most posters utilize the excellent and extensive images published by the wall street journal... almost ALL available hm17 body penetrations occurred through the pilots cabin front. with the exception of one image showing 2-3 scars on a wing, there are almost no images of strikes from above. of course, lack of images isn't the same as 'it couldn't happen'.
in conclusion, one german poster provided a link to the analysis by a german missile expert Bernd Biederman (in german). curiously, this is the second german expert coming to the same conclusion.
(it is in german)
http://www.presseportal.de/pm/59019...mh17-nicht-von-boden-luft-rakete-abgeschossen
in german: Raketenspezialist: MH17 nicht von Boden-Luft-Rakete abgeschossen
(in english: missile expert - mh-17 could not have been hit by a surface to air missile)
this lead me to a couple threads in euro forums dealing with aviation. the good news was that the forums are well moderated to keep the politics out. the bad news was that i often found my scientific expertise inadequate to fully understand some posts
people pour over available images, analyze inward/outward holes and their density, calculate the ordnance explosion distance and direction, make mapping charts etc.
i was particularly interested in ANY posts that would illuminate the possibility of the missile explosion ABOVE the plane as i am still unsure of the rooskie general claim that the buk always strikes from above. to be sure, i personally already concluded that it is more than possible in theory and practice. the million dollar question is whether the available photo and ballistic evidence points to such a strike.
for their analysis, most posters utilize the excellent and extensive images published by the wall street journal... almost ALL available hm17 body penetrations occurred through the pilots cabin front. with the exception of one image showing 2-3 scars on a wing, there are almost no images of strikes from above. of course, lack of images isn't the same as 'it couldn't happen'.
in conclusion, one german poster provided a link to the analysis by a german missile expert Bernd Biederman (in german). curiously, this is the second german expert coming to the same conclusion.
(it is in german)
http://www.presseportal.de/pm/59019...mh17-nicht-von-boden-luft-rakete-abgeschossen
in german: Raketenspezialist: MH17 nicht von Boden-Luft-Rakete abgeschossen
(in english: missile expert - mh-17 could not have been hit by a surface to air missile)
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