World Politics

[movingtarget]

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https://www.guernicamag.com/mirjana-karanovic-after-yugoslavia/

She is a very good actress. I saw the movie Esma's Secret. It's worth watching.

 

[python]

There May Be No Way to Counter North Korea's Missiles
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/there-may-be-no-way-counter-north-koreas-missiles-22112

this is chilling :exclaim: the article quotes several acknowledged experts.

the 1st thought i had was - if this is true for a state with backward industry and a primitive missiles tech, what about a sophisticated threat like from china or russia ? and why the hack pentagon spent all these tens of billions on their crappy toys with pompous names like patriot, egies, thaad... that cant work even against the 50s and 60s missile tech ? that they lied about the capabilities all along isn't surprising at all given how corrupt is the us political system...

 

[blutto]

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There May Be No Way to Counter North Korea's Missiles
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/there-may-be-no-way-counter-north-koreas-missiles-22112

this is chilling :exclaim: the article quotes several acknowledged experts.

the 1st thought i had was - if this is true for a state with backward industry and a primitive missiles tech, what about a sophisticated threat like from china or russia ? and why the hack pentagon spent all these tens of billions on their crappy toys with pompous names like patriot, egies, thaad... that cant work even against the 50s and 60s missile tech ? that they lied about the capabilities all along isn't surprising at all given how corrupt is the us political system...

....shhh....you might wake folks up....

Cheers

 

[ScienceIsCool]

Re: Re:

There May Be No Way to Counter North Korea's Missiles
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/there-may-be-no-way-counter-north-koreas-missiles-22112

this is chilling :exclaim: the article quotes several acknowledged experts.

the 1st thought i had was - if this is true for a state with backward industry and a primitive missiles tech, what about a sophisticated threat like from china or russia ? and why the hack pentagon spent all these tens of billions on their crappy toys with pompous names like patriot, egies, thaad... that cant work even against the 50s and 60s missile tech ? that they lied about the capabilities all along isn't surprising at all given how corrupt is the us political system...

....shhh....you might wake folks up....

Cheers

<shrug> Third year PDE (Partial Differential Equations) class, we spent time on calculating missile intercept trajectories. The bottom line is that for a given set of speed and maneuverability constraints, even small amounts of evasive movements means a missile can't be intercepted. As in there is no mathematical solution. Can't be done. Sure, it was only a week of course work, but It was still an undergrad course and not exactly classified... Not sure they've changed math since then.

John Swanson

 

[python]

Re: Re:

There May Be No Way to Counter North Korea's Missiles
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/there-may-be-no-way-counter-north-koreas-missiles-22112

this is chilling :exclaim: the article quotes several acknowledged experts.

the 1st thought i had was - if this is true for a state with backward industry and a primitive missiles tech, what about a sophisticated threat like from china or russia ? and why the hack pentagon spent all these tens of billions on their crappy toys with pompous names like patriot, egies, thaad... that cant work even against the 50s and 60s missile tech ? that they lied about the capabilities all along isn't surprising at all given how corrupt is the us political system...

....shhh....you might wake folks up....

Cheers

you know what else is interesting about the american anti-missile impotence now shown in korea and clear for any one ? (i mean those with a modicum of common sense and the elementary reading ability)

get this... the mass duping by the american military of the entire european nations to install the useless american anti-missile gear supposedly aimed at intercepting the ...non-existent iranian threat but in reality a blatant lie aimed at a further american militarization of europe and exposing the europeans (not americans !) to a russian nuclear counter strike. yep, the russians always refused the duping and warned of the counter measures.

the landscape isn't all that gloomy though... like among the regular individuals, the nations seem to differ in their intelligence ( a historical IQ) .... as in he case of poland, the balts etc a low historical IQ ('give us the american missiles and the more the better) or the smart ones like in the case of the czech nation ('no american military bases on on our lands'0

ONE ONLY HAS TO WONDER THE DIFFERENCE among these 'brother' slavic nations..despite the russian invasion of czechoslovakia in 1968, despite the soviet invasion in 1945 pushing the nazis out and establishing a brutal anti-liberal regime no one is demolishing the soviet statutes and no one is willing to become the subjects of a nuclear retaliation.

i lived in prague, understand their language and i always saw them as a reflective and on the average intelligent folks...

in that regard, and this isn't all that well known even in europe, another huge nation is showing the resistance being taken for idiots. the germans and increasingly so !

removing the american nuclear weapons from germany is a front and center issue in the coming german elections. no less that the current fm said they - the nukes in germany - must go.

 

[blutto]

...Pepe on heroin and the CIA ratline and Afghanistan....

....
The Persian Gulf harbors an array of extremely compromising secrets. Near the top is the Afghan heroin ratline – with the United Arab Emirates (UAE) positioned as the golden node of a transnational, trillion dollar heroin money laundering operation.


In this 21st century Opium War, crops harvested in Afghanistan are essentially feeding the heroin market not only in Russia and Iran but especially in the US. Up to 93% of the world’s opium comes from Afghanistan.

Contrary to predominant Western perception, this is not an Afghan Taliban operation. The key questions — never asked by Atlanticist circles — are who buys the opium harvests; refines them into heroin; controls the export routes; and then sell them for humongous profit compared to what the Taliban have locally imposed in taxes.

The hegemonic narrative rules that Washington bombed Afghanistan in 2001 in “self-defense” after 9/11; installed a “democratic” government; and after 16 years never de facto left because this is a key node in the Global War on Terror (GWOT), against al-Qaeda and the Taliban alike.

Washington spent over $100 billion in Afghan reconstruction. And, allegedly, $8.4 billion in “counternarcotics programs”. Operation Enduring Freedom — along with the “liberation” of Iraq — have cost an astonishing several trillion dollars. And still the heroin ratline, out of occupied Afghanistan, thrives. Cui bono?

Have a SIGAR

An exhaustive Afghanistan Opium Survey details the steady rise of Afghan opium production as well as the sprawl in production areas; “In 2016, opium production had increased by approximately 25 times in relation to its 2001 levels, from 185 tons in 2001 to 4800 tons in 2016.”

Another exhaustive report issued by the delightful acronym SIGAR (Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction) even hints — discreetly — at the crucial connection; Operation Enduring Freedom feeding America’s heroin epidemic.

Afghanistan is infested by contractors; numbers vary from 10,000 to tens of thousands. Military and ex-military alike can be reasonably pinpointed as players in the heroin ratline — in many cases for personal profit. But the clincher concerns the financing of US intel black ops that should not by any means come under scrutiny by the US Congress.

A Gulf-based intel source with vast experience across the Pentagon-designated “arc of instability” tells the story of his interaction with an Australian intel operative who served in Afghanistan;


“This was about 2011. He said he gave US Army Intelligence and the CIA reports on the Afghan heroin trade — that US military convoys from the ports of Pakistan were being used to ship the heroin out of Afghanistan — much of it was raw opium — for distribution as their backhaul.

No one answered.

He then cornered the key army intelligence operations and CIA at a meeting and asked why no action was taken. The answer was that the goal of the US was winning the hearts and minds of the population and giving them the poppies to grow won their hearts. He was then warned that if he brought this issue up again he would be returned to Australia in a body bag.”

The source is adamant,


“CIA external operations are financed from these profits. The charge that the Taliban was using the heroin trade to finance their operations was a fabrication and a form of misdirection.”

And that brings us to a key motive behind President Trump‘s going against his instincts and accepting a new Afghan surge;


“In the tradition of the opium wars of perfidious Albion in the 19th century, in which opium paid for tea and silk from India, and the taxes on these silk and tea imports financed the construction of the mighty British Navy which ruled the seas, the CIA has built itself up into a most powerful agent based on the trillion dollar heroin trade. It is impossible for Trump to overcome it as he has no allies to tap. The military are working together with the CIA, and therefore the officers that surround Trump are worthless.”

None of this deviates from the CIA’s modus operandi.

Past examples abound. The most notorious concerns the Golden Triangle during the Vietnam war, when the CIA imposed a food-for-opium scheme on Hmong tribesmen from Laos — complete with a heroin refinery at the CIA headquarters in northern Laos and the set up of nefarious Air America to export the opium.

The whole story was exposed on Prof. Alfred McCoy‘s seminal The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia — which drove Langley nuts.

A contemporary counterpart would be a recent book by Italian journalist Enrico Piovesana detailing the New Opium War in Afghanistan.

The return of Air America

A Pakistani intel source with vast Pashtun/ tribal area contacts delves into even more incendiary territory; “According to our best information the CIA has brought in their al-Qaeda-Daesh proxies into Afghanistan to justify the additional American troops”. That would neatly tie in with Trump being cornered by his generals.

And then, there’s Moscow. Last week, the Russian Foreign Ministry was adamantly denouncing “foreign fighters” transferred by “unknown helicopters” as the perpetrators of a massacre of Hazara Shi’ites in a northern Afghanistan province; “It seems that the command of the NATO forces controlling the Afghan sky stubbornly refuses to notice these incidents.”

It does not get more serious than that; Moscow denouncing sectors of the US-trained Afghan Armed Forces side by side with NATO engaged in covert ops supporting jihadis. Russian intel has hinted — discreetly — for quite some time that US intel is covertly sponsoring Daesh — a.k.a. “ISIS Khorasan” — in Afghanistan.

Russian intel is very much aware of the Afghan chapter in the New Great Game. Russian citizens are “collateral damage” of the Afghan heroin ratline as much as Americans. The Russian Foreign Ministry is tracking how tons of chemicals are being illegally imported into Afghanistan from, among others, “Italy, France and the Netherlands”, and how the US and NATO are doing absolutely nothing to contain the heroin ratline.

Well, Air America, after all, never died. It just relocated from the jungles of Southeast Asia to the arid crossroads of Central and South Asia.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/afghanistan-and-the-cia-heroin-ratline/5606329

Cheers

 

[movingtarget]

The new Cold War getting warmer

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/31/us-russia-san-francisco-consulate-close

 

[python]

The new Cold War getting warmer

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/31/us-russia-san-francisco-consulate-close

that article unsurprisingly is missing an all-important objective time line and an impartial background.

i will attempt as briefly as possible and only based on the confirmed and verifiable facts to bridge the gap.

lets start with some simple basic tenets like:
a) most countries spy on each other including the closest allies,
b) the united states particularly, as probably many other states, including russia, have interfered both overtly and covertly into each others (and their neighbors) domestic affairs in order to leverage some political advantage
3) most govs despite being involved in this murky and dirty activities will deny doing anything of sorts

so, the current tit for tat btwn russia and the us isn't anything unheard of nor did it start with anything russia did that the us had done to russia, including multiple well-documented regime changes of russia-friendly govs etc.

what makes the latest round of tit for tat unique is the absolute fury and indignation with which the american elites in both parties reacted.

it is time now to go on record that i do not buy the kremlin assertions that they had nothing to do with the last american elections. something took place. I have no idea what exactly. perhaps some facilitation of anti-clinton initiatives which - and lets be honest here - they may have considered, like hundreds of millions of americans, asians and some europeans, more dangerous. i also dont believe for a second the 'russians installed trump'. trump is a purely american phenomena indicative of the deep fissures within and ills of the american political system if not the entire society in general

even if so, the russians only took a sentence, not even a page, from the america's own playbook on how to subvert other natons.

yet, 'they stole our democracy' cries and screams and the non-stop sequence of russia investigations has practically paralyzed the all-important institution of the us presidency.

in large part due to this self-inflicted paralysis where russia is just a thin cover-up for the trivial inter partisan feuds, america has lost allies, reputation, credibility, wealth...

that the mutually pissed off and righteous elites are blind to the nation destruction is not any longer surprising, but where are the simple, common-sense american folks ? why dont they reflect on the double standard american politicos apply to america and expects of others ? why america can interfere in russia, change their friendly neighbor regimes etc and why it is unimaginable someone can respond with the SAME ?

but back to the current tit for tat time line and facts... when obama expelled 35 russian 'spies' with this loud self indignant cries, he ignored the very american spies in the moscow embassy doing....spying.

here are the dry numbers we learned afterwards - just prior to the obama order the us had 1211 diplomatic staff in russia while hosting only 455 russians. 3 times as much !. consequently, in all probability, the us spies aka diplomats in russia were much more numerous. even then, the russians took 8 months NOT responding. when the congress imposed the new sanctions, they asked for a diplomatic parity. that is - 455 vs 455.

yesterday, the us escalated the tit for tat. that was expected. the ugly part was the state department explanation compleely ignoring who started it, why and a rather long patience the russians demonstrated before acting.

to me, this latest tit for tat indicates how far the american elites (and probably most americans) have fallen in their non-critical in fact hypocritical vew of the rest of the world.

 

[movingtarget]

Re:

The new Cold War getting warmer

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/31/us-russia-san-francisco-consulate-close

that article unsurprisingly is missing an all-important objective time line and an impartial background.

i will attempt as briefly as possible and only based on the confirmed and verifiable facts to bridge the gap.

lets start with some simple basic tenets like:
a) most countries spy on each other including the closest allies,
b) the united states particularly, as probably many other states, including russia, have interfered both overtly and covertly into each others (and their neighbors) domestic affairs in order to leverage some political advantage
3) most govs despite being involved in this murky and dirty activities will deny doing anything of sorts

so, the current tit for tat btwn russia and the us isn't anything unheard of nor did it start with anything russia did that the us had done to russia, including multiple well-documented regime changes of russia-friendly govs etc.

what makes the latest round of tit for tat unique is the absolute fury and indignation with which the american elites in both parties reacted.

it is time now to go on record that i do not buy the kremlin assertions that they had nothing to do with the last american elections. something took place. I have no idea what exactly. perhaps some facilitation of anti-clinton initiatives which - and lets be honest here - they may have considered, like hundreds of millions of americans, asians and some europeans, more dangerous. i also dont believe for a second the 'russians installed trump'. trump is a purely american phenomena indicative of the deep fissures within and ills of the american political system if not the entire society in general

even if so, the russians only took a sentence, not even a page, from the america's own playbook on how to subvert other natons.

yet, 'they stole our democracy' cries and screams and the non-stop sequence of russia investigations has practically paralyzed the all-important institution of the us presidency.

in large part due to this self-inflicted paralysis where russia is just a thin cover-up for the trivial inter partisan feuds, america has lost allies, reputation, credibility, wealth...

that the mutually pissed off and righteous elites are blind to the nation destruction is not any longer surprising, but where are the simple, common-sense american folks ? why dont they reflect on the double standard american politicos apply to america and expects of others ? why america can interfere in russia, change their friendly neighbor regimes etc and why it is unimaginable someone can respond with the SAME ?

but back to the current tit for tat time line and facts... when obama expelled 35 russian 'spies' with this loud self indignant cries, he ignored the very american spies in the moscow embassy doing....spying.

here are the dry numbers we learned afterwards - just prior to the obama order the us had 1211 diplomatic staff in russia while hosting only 455 russians. 3 times as much !. consequently, in all probability, the us spies aka diplomats in russia were much more numerous. even then, the russians took 8 months NOT responding. when the congress imposed the new sanctions, they asked for a diplomatic parity. that is - 455 vs 455.

yesterday, the us escalated the tit for tat. that was expected. the ugly part was the state department explanation compleely ignoring who started it, why and a rather long patience the russians demonstrated before acting.

to me, this latest tit for tat indicates how far the american elites (and probably most americans) have fallen in their non-critical in fact hypocritical vew of the rest of the world.

I tend to agree about Trump. He had the right opposition at the right time with the stench about Clinton. Rarely have two candidates been so loathed by the opposition voters. Trump tapped into something but whatever it was it seems some of the people that voted for Trump have already had enough of him. As for the Russians I tend to agree that something was going on whether it was just spam attacks on Clinton or fake news who knows and I have doubts that the enquiry will get the full story of what happened. Although some government officials have already said that certain events can be traced back to the Kremlin or people working for the Kremlin. Putin has never said that Russians had nothing to do with it, he said the Russian government had nothing to do with it. Comey's comment about Clinton before the election did not help her either. Clinton was already damaged goods before outside sources got involved. Many political commentators got the result wrong the same way they also got Brexit wrong and the subsequent UK election. But as Trump has shown, getting elected is the easy part, getting things done and being an effective president is something else entirely. Some people from his inner circle don't even think he will complete his first term for various reasons.

 

[blutto]

....White Helmet alert...

http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/09/01/white-helmets-the-jib-al-qubeh-war-crime-in-aleppo-denied-by-channel-4/

Cheers

 

[python]

just days after firing an unprecedented missile over japan and in yet another giant 'F U america and your puppets', north korea just (they say) tested an h-bomb small enough to fit a war head of icbm.

the claim validity is the key... it is very difficult to verify externally an underground h-test, except measuring the seismic component. the us, japan, russia and south keorea did report a significan magnitude earth quakes originating approximately at the test site.

whether one hates this fat face, one has to marvel at the size of his jewels or at the void between his ears..

i still think he would not dare to act so brazenly w/o some sort of signal from china. call me a conspirator :geek:

 

[Brullnux]

Re:

just days after firing an unprecedented missile over japan and in yet another giant 'F U america and your puppets', north korea just (they say) tested an h-bomb small enough to fit a war head of icbm.

the claim validity is the key... it is very difficult to verify externally an underground h-test, except measuring the seismic component. the us, japan, russia and south keorea did report a significan magnitude earth quakes originating approximately at the test site.

whether one hates this fat face, one has to marvel at the size of his jewels or at the void between his ears..

i still think he would not dare to act so brazenly w/o some sort of signal from china. call me a conspirator :geek:

6.3 magnitude apparently, but I don't know what that means. I'd rather he'd stop as it is starting to get a bit worrying.

 

[python]

Re: Re:

just days after firing an unprecedented missile over japan and in yet another giant 'F U america and your puppets', north korea just (they say) tested an h-bomb small enough to fit a war head of icbm.

the claim validity is the key... it is very difficult to verify externally an underground h-test, except measuring the seismic component. the us, japan, russia and south keorea did report a significan magnitude earth quakes originating approximately at the test site.

whether one hates this fat face, one has to marvel at the size of his jewels or at the void between his ears..

i still think he would not dare to act so brazenly w/o some sort of signal from china. call me a conspirator :geek:

6.3 magnitude apparently, but I don't know what that means. I'd rather he'd stop as it is starting to get a bit worrying.

for all his stupidity, the fat face is right with one thing - it take 2 to tango. right ?

did the us ever stop the military threats, its all sorts of near-border war exercises, the nuclear bomber overflights and piles of war gear in japan and s. korea ?

ask the chinese for an answer. i dont blame the crazy fat face for knowing too well what happened to saddam and qaddafi when they succombed to the us threats...

they are dead, hundreds of thousand of their country men are dead and their countries are still in the mids of civil wars started by the us.

the madmen has good memory...

 

[Brullnux]

All very true, but Saddam and Gaddafi never threatened the USA so. Kim Jong is far crazier than either of them ever were. The problem is that nobody seems to know what to do with this issue. Most (not all) don't want an actual war, but Kim Jong has no reason to stand down any more - he knows the USA will never believe him and will try to oust him as soon as Kim submits and gets rid of his nuclear arsenal, as you say.

 

[movingtarget]

Re: Re:

just days after firing an unprecedented missile over japan and in yet another giant 'F U america and your puppets', north korea just (they say) tested an h-bomb small enough to fit a war head of icbm.

the claim validity is the key... it is very difficult to verify externally an underground h-test, except measuring the seismic component. the us, japan, russia and south keorea did report a significan magnitude earth quakes originating approximately at the test site.

whether one hates this fat face, one has to marvel at the size of his jewels or at the void between his ears..

i still think he would not dare to act so brazenly w/o some sort of signal from china. call me a conspirator :geek:

6.3 magnitude apparently, but I don't know what that means. I'd rather he'd stop as it is starting to get a bit worrying.

It means much bigger than the bombs dropped in WWII.

 

[python]

All very true, but Saddam and Gaddafi never threatened the USA so. Kim Jong is far crazier than either of them ever were.

1. as there is plenty of evidence, the us does not need a direct threat from anyone to start a war anywhere. they just declare (usually a blatant lie as, for instance, in iraq) that they DEFEND against some perceived threat to an ally or a self-appointed keeper to a 'free word' order. bingo, bombbbb, boo boom...
2. to any rational mind, the fat face certainly comes across as a madman... but is he for real or is acting mad since his tool box is got only 1 or 2 effective replies ? a threat of a universal nuclear war is just one...the annihilation of seoul (just across the border) is yet another.

his threats to america are the theatrical stunts to convince his subjects that his lil dijk is bigger than it is. it is obvious what will happen if he attacks the us directly.

again, i think he's is some sort of collusion with china (and perhaps russia) to drive the us militarism out of the neighborhood

 

[blutto]

Re:

All very true, but Saddam and Gaddafi never threatened the USA so. Kim Jong is far crazier than either of them ever were.

1. as there is plenty of evidence, the us does not need a direct threat from anyone to start a war anywhere. they just declare (usually a blatant lie as, for instance, in iraq) that they DEFEND against some perceived threat to an ally or a self-appointed keeper to a 'free word' order. bingo, bombbbb, boo boom...
2. to any rational mind, the fat face certainly comes across as a madman... but is he for real or is acting mad since his tool box is got only 1 or 2 effective replies ? a threat of a universal nuclear war is just one...the annihilation of seoul (just across the border) is yet another.

his threats to america are the theatrical stunts to convince his subjects that his lil dijk is bigger than it is. it is obvious what will happen if he attacks the us directly.

again, i think he's is some sort of collusion with china (and perhaps russia) to drive the us militarism out of the neighborhood

....the big problem he is in direct confrontation with the blood thirsty psychopaths who run the Fourth Reich...

The US is the only country to have used nuclear weapons, when it dropped two atomic bombs on Japan – just three weeks after it successfully tested the weapon in the New Mexico desert on July 16, 1945. The attacks on Japan killed at least 200,000 civilians. Official US justifications about swiftly ending the Pacific War with Japan are dubious and arguably irrelevant to the immoral barbarity.

Since the end of the Second World War, the US has engaged in dozens of wars in dozens of countries, according to respected historians such as William Blum, with an estimated death toll of 20 million. Since the end of the Cold War with the Soviet Union, the US has been in a state of permanent war over the past two decades, carrying out aerial bombardments in up to seven countries simultaneously. Official US justifications for these wars are dubious if not contemptible.

The incontestable fact is that the US is the biggest serial violator of international law with the blood of millions of civilians on its hands. It is arguable that Nazi Germany’s Third Reich was succeeded by a Fourth Reich in the US.
The US may not have used nuclear bombs since the mass destruction carried out in Japan in 1945. But in spite of the heinous shame of its unique criminality, American leaders continually reserve the right to threaten other nations with nuclear annihilation. The oft-repeated phrase "all options on the table" is the Orwellian language used by the US to refer to its self-ordained prerogative to use nuclear weapons, codified in its "first-strike doctrine."
US President Donald Trump routinely invokes the veiled threat of nuclear annihilation against North Korea. His warning of "fire and fury like the world has never seen before" is a chilling reference. While Trump’s senior administration have sought to temper his comments with vaguely worded possible diplomacy, they too at other times openly use the "all options on the table" nuclear threat.

North Korea’s defiant testing of ballistic missiles is wrongly presented by Western media in complete isolation from the crucial context of the United States habitually threatening Pyongyang with pre-emptive war.

Both Russia and China have rebuked the US for its current display of military force during its annual “war games” on the Korean Peninsula as being destabilizing. But with incorrigible arrogance, Washington insists on its right to conduct such “defensive” maneuvers, and the Western media dutifully indulge this irrational distortion.

North Korea has not been at war with any country since the end of the 1950-53 Korean War when it fought against the US-backed South. By contrast, the US has gone on to launch wars against dozens of countries under various pretexts, as well as retain a war-footing against North Korea by refusing to sign a peace treaty. If that’s because Kim Jong-un is a "dictator," then what about Saudi Arabia?

Nearly 50 years after signing the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), which mandates nuclear weapons states to disarm, the US is the process of upgrading its nuclear arsenal at a cost of $400 billion over the next 10 years, or at least $1,000 billion over the next 30 years, according to SIPRI. (That financial outlay will no doubt bring cheer to the millions of survivors of Hurricane Harvey.)

Out of the 193 member states of the United Nations, only nine are believed to possess nuclear weapons. The US, Russia, China, Britain, France, India, Pakistan, North Korea and Israel. All of them are in the process of upgrading their nuclear stockpiles, not disarming

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In every case, the Western media distort and sanitize the criminal conduct of their governments.

The crisis with North Korea is another classic case of Western media distorting reality and audaciously inverting the problem.

The objective facts clearly show that, by far, the biggest threat to world security – perhaps even world survival – is the United States with its track record of war-making and systematic decimation of international law.

Only in a thoroughly Orwellian brainwashed world, as presented by the Western media, could North Korea be viewed as "the threat."

Infernally, not only is such a warped view of the world making a catastrophic war more likely, it is also precluding the morally rational option of a diplomatic, peaceful solution

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47730.htm

....and lets remember the push to nuclear capability on NK's part came in very large part from a full bore diplomatic ***-up on the part of the Fourth Reich....and there is the fact the two nations are still technically at war....this whole mess is powered by much the same thinking that underscores Merikan diplomacy vis-à-vis Cuba...read, diplomacy by petulant children who think they are doing God's work, not unlike Jihadists with nuclear capability....

....and then there is the "need" to have a military presence close to China....

...just saying eh...

....and furthermore gonna be real interesting how the upcoming Korean elections are going to play out....word is a great many South Koreans are really not that thrilled to be put in the direct line of fire by idiotic sabre rattling by a bunch of chicken hawk fools in Washington....one election outcome, and it has been posted here, is the US military presence in SK will either be greatly reduced or eliminated, and the recent diplomatic overtures to China will start bearing some serious fruit....

Cheers

 

[Lv426]

:lol: Boooooom . It's WAR. :lol:
The world is run by insane lunatics who seem happy to create as many wars as the can .
The war on terror is a funking joke created to sell arms and expand the US idiology world wide i.e. Money and power. What was that paper ,the project for the new American century. All playing out as cited in that document/policy. John pilger talked about it recently in the itv documentry he did. Trump ,Clinton , Obama .it makes no difference. The wars escalate . Booooom

 

[python]

Re: Re:

moving target wrote:

It means much bigger than the bombs dropped in WWII.

here's an interesting personal bit (but i wont say too much to keep my privacy)...

during our vacation trip across the us southwest last month, we visited the albuquerque museum of nuclear science & history. i had to visit the place since i have had some direct relation to the entire subject professionally. ..

to make it brief, it's an absolutely fascinating place. i actually touched the same shells of the hiroshima and nagasaki atomic bombs. when i asked if these were just models, the tour guide said they were the actual metal shells (a few dozens were produced) of the dropped atomic bombs (but of course w/o the atomic warhead). the shells were produced in numbers for testing etc...anyways, and this is what bugs me - the very ignorance/disregard for accuracy of the majority of the western sources - the museum descriptors for the hiroshima bomb was 13 kilotonnes of tnt and the nagasaki bomb was scripted as 16 Kt of tnt. to me, it is quite different from the 15 to 20 KT TNT range described !

anyways, one of the concerned parties (japan ?) today claimed the blast was the equivalent of 70 KT of tnt. if so, it is almost for sure an h-bomb. bad news for the pentagon.

even india, pakistan and israel are considered by the nuclear experts NOT having the h-bombs.

my opinion - the norkors are not bluffing and their progress isn't all (or at all) indigenous.

 

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moving target wrote:

It means much bigger than the bombs dropped in WWII.

here's an interesting personal bit (but i wont say too much to keep my privacy)...

during our vacation trip across the us southwest last month, we visited the albuquerque museum of nuclear science & history. i had to visit the place since i have had some direct relation to the entire subject professionally. ..

to make it brief, it's an absolutely fascinating place. i actually touched the same shells of the hiroshima and nagasaki atomic bombs. when i asked if these were just models, the tour guide said they were the actual metal shells (a few dozens were produced) of the dropped atomic bombs (but of course w/o the atomic warhead). the shells were produced in numbers for testing etc...anyways, and this is what bugs me - the very ignorance/disregard for accuracy of the majority of the western sources - the museum descriptors for the hiroshima bomb was 13 kilotonnes of tnt and the nagasaki bomb was scripted as 16 Kt of tnt. to me, it is quite different from the 15 to 20 KT TNT range described !

anyways, one of the concerned parties (japan ?) today claimed the blast was the equivalent of 70 KT of tnt. if so, it is almost for sure an h-bomb. bad news for the pentagon.

even india, pakistan and israel are considered by the nuclear experts NOT having the h-bombs.

my opinion - the norkors are not bluffing and their progress isn't all (or at all) indigenous.

....so who would potentially have H-bomb technology to sell ?.....rhetorical question ?.....or do I just have a outsized axe to grind ?.....

Cheers

 

[blutto]

....much interesting here....

South Korea’s newly elected president, Moon Jae-in, keeps insisting that the US must not launch war against North Korea without South Korea’s agreement.

President Donald Trump and the US media appear not to have heard Moon’s pleas, or are simply disregarding them.

Amazingly, six decades after the end of the 1950 Korean War, South Korea’s 650,000-man active armed forces and 4.2 million-man reserves remain under the command of a US four-star general. This neo-colonial arrangement was supposed to have ended years ago, but successive conservative South Korean governments maintained their nation’s acceptance of Washington’s Asian Raj. So does Japan

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At the same time, North Koreans are jumping for joy that their nation just launched a medium-range missile over Japan that panicked and humiliated the much hated Japanese. The missile launch came on the anniversary of Japan’s takeover of Korea as a colony in 1910. Imperial Japan exploited and humiliated the proud Koreans, treating them as sub-humans. Koreans have never forgotten. Many long for revenge.

....which leads to this...

Point defense missiles – Japan’s current response – won’t give it adequate protection. As France’s Maginot Line so dramatically showed, fixed defenses can be overcome by spirited, innovative offensives. To defend itself, Japan – and perhaps South Korea – need massive retaliatory capability. But even then, if there is a north Asian nuclear conflict, it’s likely North Korea will save at least one or two nuclear missiles for revenge against Japan

.

China’s Foreign Ministry has proposed the obvious, sensible solution to this trumped-up crisis: the US to cease its provocative annual air, land and naval demonstration around North Korea’s borders in return for the North outing a moratorium on its provocative missile tests. So far, Washington has refused this sensible solution.

Meanwhile, in a little-noticed, menacing statement, China’s Ministry of Defense just warned that China ‘would not allow’ US or South Korea troops to enter North Korea. This is a very serious warning that deserves utmost attention in Washington.

It reminds me of Imperial Russia’s warning Austro-Hungary not to invade Serbia in the fall of 1914 – or else. The ‘or else’ came: World War I. And, of course, Mao’s China warning US Gen. Douglas MacArthur not to cross the Yalu River in 1950 – or else. Soon after, 500,000 Chinese troops invaded Korea

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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/09/eric-margolis/time-listen-south-korea/

Cheers

 

[python]

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moving target wrote:

It means much bigger than the bombs dropped in WWII.

here's an interesting personal bit (but i wont say too much to keep my privacy)...

during our vacation trip across the us southwest last month, we visited the albuquerque museum of nuclear science & history. i had to visit the place since i have had some direct relation to the entire subject professionally. ..

to make it brief, it's an absolutely fascinating place. i actually touched the same shells of the hiroshima and nagasaki atomic bombs. when i asked if these were just models, the tour guide said they were the actual metal shells (a few dozens were produced) of the dropped atomic bombs (but of course w/o the atomic warhead). the shells were produced in numbers for testing etc...anyways, and this is what bugs me - the very ignorance/disregard for accuracy of the majority of the western sources - the museum descriptors for the hiroshima bomb was 13 kilotonnes of tnt and the nagasaki bomb was scripted as 16 Kt of tnt. to me, it is quite different from the 15 to 20 KT TNT range described !

anyways, one of the concerned parties (japan ?) today claimed the blast was the equivalent of 70 KT of tnt. if so, it is almost for sure an h-bomb. bad news for the pentagon.

even india, pakistan and israel are considered by the nuclear experts NOT having the h-bombs.

my opinion - the norkors are not bluffing and their progress isn't all (or at all) indigenous.

....so who would potentially have H-bomb technology to sell ?.....rhetorical question ?.....or do I just have a outsized axe to grind ?.....

Cheers

first off, excellent articles up thread - right along my expressed views. regarding your questions, i am going to speculate that OFFICIALLY all states in the possession of the thermonuclear (h-bomb) technology would guard the proliferation seriously. but the hundreds of scientists and engineers, particularly those left unemployed after the implosion of the su, would be a fair pool to fish in.

in this regard, the possession of the h-bomb technology in and of itself would be secondary imo to mastering the long range intercontinental ballistic missilery. you may recall the ukraine's role according to american media. it is more than plausible their corrupt system contributed to both the norkor h-bomb and missilery...

 

[blutto]

Re: Re:

moving target wrote:

It means much bigger than the bombs dropped in WWII.

here's an interesting personal bit (but i wont say too much to keep my privacy)...

during our vacation trip across the us southwest last month, we visited the albuquerque museum of nuclear science & history. i had to visit the place since i have had some direct relation to the entire subject professionally. ..

to make it brief, it's an absolutely fascinating place. i actually touched the same shells of the hiroshima and nagasaki atomic bombs. when i asked if these were just models, the tour guide said they were the actual metal shells (a few dozens were produced) of the dropped atomic bombs (but of course w/o the atomic warhead). the shells were produced in numbers for testing etc...anyways, and this is what bugs me - the very ignorance/disregard for accuracy of the majority of the western sources - the museum descriptors for the hiroshima bomb was 13 kilotonnes of tnt and the nagasaki bomb was scripted as 16 Kt of tnt. to me, it is quite different from the 15 to 20 KT TNT range described !

anyways, one of the concerned parties (japan ?) today claimed the blast was the equivalent of 70 KT of tnt. if so, it is almost for sure an h-bomb. bad news for the pentagon.

even india, pakistan and israel are considered by the nuclear experts NOT having the h-bombs.

my opinion - the norkors are not bluffing and their progress isn't all (or at all) indigenous.

....so who would potentially have H-bomb technology to sell ?.....rhetorical question ?.....or do I just have a outsized axe to grind ?.....

Cheers

first off, excellent articles up thread - right along my expressed views. regarding your questions, i am going to speculate that OFFICIALLY all states in the possession of the thermonuclear (h-bomb) technology would guard the proliferation seriously. but the hundreds of scientists and engineers, particularly those left unemployed after the implosion of the su, would be a fair pool to fish in.

in this regard, the possession of the h-bomb technology in and of itself would be secondary imo to mastering the long range intercontinental ballistic missilery. you may recall the ukraine's role according to american media. it is more than plausible their corrupt system contributed to both the norkor h-bomb and missilery...

....my thoughts exactly....with friends like that who needs enemies....indeed !...

Cheers

 

[blutto]

....this is not so good eh....

The United States has once again seized diplomatic and consular properties belonging to the Russia Federation and is in the process of conducting raid style searches of the properties which are set to formally begin on the 4th of September.

These actions which first took place in the final full month of Barack Obama’s Presidency and are now taking place at additional Russian diplomatic and consular facilities in the United States under Donald Trump’s Presidency, violate clearly codified international laws which are contained in documents known as the Vienna Conventions.

The following are the provisions of the Vienna Conventions that are presently being violated by the United States.

From the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations


Article 22

1. The premises of the mission shall be inviolable. The agents
of the receiving State may not enter them, except with the consent of
the head of the mission.

2. The receiving State is under a special duty to take all
appropriate steps to protect the premises of the mission against any
intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the
mission or impairment of its dignity.

3. The premises of the mission, their furnishings and other
property thereon and the means of transport of the mission shall be
immune from search, requisition, attachment or execution.

From the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations


Article 31

Inviolability of the consular premises

1.Consular premises shall be inviolable to the extent provided in this article.

2.The authorities of the receiving State shall not enter that part of the consular premises which is
used exclusively for the purpose of the work of the consular post except with the consent of the head of the consular post or of his designee or of the head of the diplomatic mission of the sending State. The consent of the head of the consular post may, however, be assumed in case of fire or other disaster requiring prompt protective action.

3.Subject to the provisions of paragraph 2 of this article, the receiving State is under a special
duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the consular premises against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the consular post or impairment of its dignity.

4.The consular premises, their furnishings, the property of the consular post and its means of
transport shall be immune from any form of requisition for purposes of national defence or public utility.

If expropriation is necessary for such purposes, all possible steps shall be taken to avoid impeding the performance of consular functions, and prompt, adequate and effective compensation shall be paid to the sending State.

In summary, these statues of international law codified by the United Nations in 1961 (Diplomatic) and 1963 (Consular) mean that irrespective of the condition of relations between the sending state (in this case Russia) and the receiving state (in this case the US), the diplomatic and consular properties in question must remain free from any kind of molestation including searches, raids, property seizures and the infringement of normal and dignified working practices.

Each of these items of law has been clearly violated by the United States. The US has prohibited diplomatic and consular workers from pursuing their work under normal circumstances. The US molested the peace and freedom of such workers and their families on a personal level and the US is in the process of preparing to raid the diplomatic and consular properties which the law states are clearly inviolable.

Even in times of conflict that run much deeper than the current political disputes between Washington and Moscow, the Vienna Conventions have a precedent of being adhered to.

In 1984, an individual inside the Libyan Embassy in London shot and killed a UK police officer. The shots were fired from inside the embassy onto the street below.

Although many called for the suspect to be brought to trail in an English court, the UK government at the time, a government that had generally poor relations Libya in any case, observed the Vienna Conventions and allowed the embassy workers to return to Libya safely after being named persona-non-grata, something which is sanctioned by the Vienna Conventions

https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2017/09/02/us-actions-against-russian-diplomatic-and-consular-property-are-illegal-heres-why/

Cheers

 

[python]

^the us actions wrt diplomatic convention and practice are weird.

again and again, and i am using the analogy from my every-day experience, the over-reactive rudeness and arrogance with which the us is treating those diplomats is indicative not of strength but of insecurity and weakness. i suspect that a politically skilled chess player like vlad will will NOT use the obvious 'mirror' retaliation but an indirect his vintage dig that the us will feel the pain of...

and there are more than enough opportunities considering the several former friends now turning either enemies or choosing the new sponsors.

the 2 immediate examples from my recent readings are egypt and pakistan.

the us recent cutting the egypt financial aide (officially due to 'poor human rights record') sounds particularly intellectually insulting in the light of the us support of the world champion of the human right abuses - the house of saud. a pure hypocrisy ! i doubt very much that the authoritarian sisi will bend to the unimaginative pressure. a case in point, he was invited to the brics summit in china - an alternative to the west alliances - and widely praised for his role in syria and the wide anti-terror actions.

the situation with pakistan is a little more complicated..they increasingly got closer to china at the expense of america and refused to bend over when told to fall into line. very briefly, the us is adamant about fighting taliban militarily and the Pakis want them a part of the negotiated solution. i doubt very much that trump understands a simple truth - without the pakistan cooperation the us cant win the afghan war or at least come to a face-saving conclusion.

in both cases russia has more than enough spoiler cards to fukc america for its overbearing rudeness and arrogance. and they will. that's what vlad is known for - not leaving any insult w/o a reply. on his terms. at his chosen time...

and i am not even touching on the trump troubles with germany and turkey. to play those is yet another game that trump is simply not capable of.