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Yeah Irish Bar... it is code for ??????????.redtreviso said:Is "irish bar" in houston code for something else?
Looks like President Obama and the United Nations are taking us into War with Libya.
Yeah Irish Bar... it is code for ??????????.redtreviso said:Is "irish bar" in houston code for something else?
Scott SoCal said:Quips the most humorless man in Italy.
Glenn_Wilson said:Griffs....You? been here since 3pm.
Any FoxNews updates?![]()
Cobblestones said:Scott, if you want to see an example of a great school system which also achieves great results with immigrant and minority children, you should look to Finland. I'm not mentioning teachers' salaries or unions etc. Just read about the achievements first, then find out how it was possible. And remember that it does the same good job for all children in the whole country, not just some select ones with rich parents. This is the kind of school system which should be available to every child. At least in developed countries (yes it does cost money).
Rhubroma: yes I do remember the swill we were served behind the 'iron curtain' and it wasn't good. Moldavian wine (more like vinegar with a bouquet of gas station) Armenian cognac (turpentine came to mind), and vodka (well, at least you didn't notice the taste after a while). It was godawful. The one exception I recall was a Hungarian desert wine (Tokaj I believe) which was actually quite good. Later I developed a certain fondness for another Hungarian product called Unicum, but that might have been during the 1990s.
Beer is not really my thing.
patricknd said:Fredricksburg for hell week ride.
Cobblestones said:Anyway, this is general politics, back on topic.
Whoever says that Gaddafi is stupid or crazy needs to have their own head examined. It is never good to underestimate your opponent. So he accepts the UN resolution and declares ceasefire. What now? His troops already have reconquered much of Cyrenaica I believe, stopping just short of Benghazi.
The resolution does not allow ground troops (well, except for Libyan rebels). What if they start marching toward Tripoli? Who's supposed to protect the civilians then? It doesn't look like France, UK and US have really thought that through (which brings me to the previous paragraph).
Anyway, so we have this resolution 'excluding a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory' while in Bahrain, a foreign (Saudi) force is getting busy cracking down on protesters, all the same time vilifying them as 'Shia extremists' 'in league with Iran' 'marching in support of a mullah regime' (none of which is true, of course). But since this is between two powers friendly to the US, let's just ignore it until it blows over. Anyway, why would you make a fuss about some 'Shia extremists'.
The ' excluding a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory' line becomes even more interesting to read when you think about Palestine.
Cobblestones said:Anyway, this is general politics, back on topic.
Whoever says that Gaddafi is stupid or crazy needs to have their own head examined. It is never good to underestimate your opponent. So he accepts the UN resolution and declares ceasefire. What now? His troops already have reconquered much of Cyrenaica I believe, stopping just short of Benghazi.
Scott SoCal said:Meanwhile Obama has utterly destroyed the legacy of Jimmy Carter.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/235196/Barack-Obama-The-Weakest-President-in-history-
Glenn_Wilson said:Without getting into the Palestine comparisons, I think your assessment with Bahrain is correct. I said something about it in an earlier post. No one is willing to condemn Saudi for the aggressive use of force to stop any dissent. Especially the government of America. We are scared to anger the Saudi’s because they have us hijacked with oil.
Gaddafi knows exactly what he is doing. He was just buying time and trying to get all the killing done before the UN could act. Do you think he would have tried that with the previous President? President Bush and his cabinet were all eager to use force at any time. Gaddafi would have been reluctant to use force because it would have given the Texas gunslinger an excuse to use cruise missile’s on him.
Glenn_Wilson said:Gaddafi knows exactly what he is doing. He was just buying time and trying to get all the killing done before the UN could act. Do you think he would have tried that with the previous President? President Bush and his cabinet were all eager to use force at any time. Gaddafi would have been reluctant to use force because it would have given the Texas gunslinger an excuse to use cruise missile’s on him.
Cobblestones said:Obama knows that the one thing which will kill any kind of economic recovery will be a spike in oil prices. Now, with the reactor problems in Japan and trouble in the Mid East that's precisely what he might have coming his way. So he sees his chances to get reelected dwindle.
Gaddafi, despite paranoia and likely other mental problems, is highly skilled in running his country. Can anybody please wrap his head around that he has been in charge for more than 41 years making him the longest 'serving' current dictator??? This guy is not stupid. He knows precisely what it takes to stay where he has been for longer than most of the board members here have lived.
I don't know what GWB might have done and how Gaddafi would have reacted, but the smart money would be on Gaddafi to come out on top. In case you have forgotten, Gaddafi survived Reagan's bombing. [sarcasm] As a conservative, aren't you supposed to think that Reagan>>GWB, so if Reagan couldn't do it, GWB shouldn't have been able to either[/sarcasm].
redtreviso said:what???????? It was Bush who welcomed Gaddafi back to the good graces of the west..(and marathon oil corp of Houston Texas)...You must have drank a lot at that Irish Bar.
btw there is a video of Bush praising Gaddafi out there..
Glenn_Wilson said:No doubt there is a video where President Bush is praising that dictator Gaddafi. I think it would have been different if trigger finger was in the office. I am not 100% because he is not the present President.
Man I wish you would have been at the bar with us last night Redtreviso….you would have had some good laughs and probably would be less aggressive.
btw have you caught up on the FoxNews for today?
Oh my goodness Marathon Oil Corp......of Houston Texas no less.![]()
Glenn_Wilson said:No doubt there is a video where President Bush is praising that dictator Gaddafi. I think it would have been different if trigger finger was in the office. I am not 100% because he is not the present President.
Man I wish you would have been at the bar with us last night Redtreviso….you would have had some good laughs and probably would be less aggressive.
btw have you caught up on the FoxNews for today?
Oh my goodness Marathon Oil Corp......of Houston Texas no less.![]()
redtreviso said:Look it up.. Marathon CEO Libya,,
I need some laughs..but I can(would rather not) listen to drunk conservatives just by conversing with my neighbors while watering the yard.
Scott SoCal said:Never happen. Red don't laugh much. He so serious.
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Cobblestones said:Scott, if you want to see an example of a great school system which also achieves great results with immigrant and minority children, you should look to Finland. I'm not mentioning teachers' salaries or unions etc. Just read about the achievements first, then find out how it was possible. And remember that it does the same good job for all children in the whole country, not just some select ones with rich parents. This is the kind of school system which should be available to every child. At least in developed countries (yes it does cost money).
Rhubroma: yes I do remember the swill we were served behind the 'iron curtain' and it wasn't good. Moldavian wine (more like vinegar with a bouquet of gas station) Armenian cognac (turpentine came to mind), and vodka (well, at least you didn't notice the taste after a while). It was godawful. The one exception I recall was a Hungarian desert wine (Tokaj I believe) which was actually quite good. Later I developed a certain fondness for another Hungarian product called Unicum, but that might have been during the 1990s.
Beer is not really my thing.
redtreviso said:what???????? It was Bush who welcomed Gaddafi back to the good graces of the west..(and marathon oil corp of Houston Texas)...You must have drank a lot at that Irish Bar.
btw there is a video of Bush praising Gaddafi out there..
Glenn_Wilson said:Best pils in the world maybe. But us mericans have some good pils also.
