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Scott, if you want to see an example of a great school system which also achieves great results with immigrant and minority children, you should look to Finland. I'm not mentioning teachers' salaries or unions etc. Just read about the achievements first, then find out how it was possible. And remember that it does the same good job for all children in the whole country, not just some select ones with rich parents. This is the kind of school system which should be available to every child. At least in developed countries (yes it does cost money).

Rhubroma: yes I do remember the swill we were served behind the 'iron curtain' and it wasn't good. Moldavian wine (more like vinegar with a bouquet of gas station) Armenian cognac (turpentine came to mind), and vodka (well, at least you didn't notice the taste after a while). It was godawful. The one exception I recall was a Hungarian desert wine (Tokaj I believe) which was actually quite good. Later I developed a certain fondness for another Hungarian product called Unicum, but that might have been during the 1990s.

Beer is not really my thing.
 
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Scott, if you want to see an example of a great school system which also achieves great results with immigrant and minority children, you should look to Finland. I'm not mentioning teachers' salaries or unions etc. Just read about the achievements first, then find out how it was possible. And remember that it does the same good job for all children in the whole country, not just some select ones with rich parents. This is the kind of school system which should be available to every child. At least in developed countries (yes it does cost money).

Rhubroma: yes I do remember the swill we were served behind the 'iron curtain' and it wasn't good. Moldavian wine (more like vinegar with a bouquet of gas station) Armenian cognac (turpentine came to mind), and vodka (well, at least you didn't notice the taste after a while). It was godawful. The one exception I recall was a Hungarian desert wine (Tokaj I believe) which was actually quite good. Later I developed a certain fondness for another Hungarian product called Unicum, but that might have been during the 1990s.

Beer is not really my thing.


I'll do some homework. Thanks for the heads up.
 
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Anyway, this is general politics, back on topic.

Whoever says that Gaddafi is stupid or crazy needs to have their own head examined. It is never good to underestimate your opponent. So he accepts the UN resolution and declares ceasefire. What now? His troops already have reconquered much of Cyrenaica I believe, stopping just short of Benghazi.

The resolution does not allow ground troops (well, except for Libyan rebels). What if they start marching toward Tripoli? Who's supposed to protect the civilians then? It doesn't look like France, UK and US have really thought that through (which brings me to the previous paragraph).

Anyway, so we have this resolution 'excluding a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory' while in Bahrain, a foreign (Saudi) force is getting busy cracking down on protesters, all the same time vilifying them as 'Shia extremists' 'in league with Iran' 'marching in support of a mullah regime' (none of which is true, of course). But since this is between two powers friendly to the US, let's just ignore it until it blows over. Anyway, why would you make a fuss about some 'Shia extremists'.

The ' excluding a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory' line becomes even more interesting to read when you think about Palestine.
 
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"yes we can"

President Obama is a bit more worried about his Men’s and Women’s NCAA basketball brackets. He has no time for Libya or the disaster in Japan.

What do you expect from a guy who stole the line "yes we can" from the children’s show Bob the builder..."Can we fix it......yes we can"....
 
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Cobblestones said:
Anyway, this is general politics, back on topic.

Whoever says that Gaddafi is stupid or crazy needs to have their own head examined. It is never good to underestimate your opponent. So he accepts the UN resolution and declares ceasefire. What now? His troops already have reconquered much of Cyrenaica I believe, stopping just short of Benghazi.

The resolution does not allow ground troops (well, except for Libyan rebels). What if they start marching toward Tripoli? Who's supposed to protect the civilians then? It doesn't look like France, UK and US have really thought that through (which brings me to the previous paragraph).

Anyway, so we have this resolution 'excluding a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory' while in Bahrain, a foreign (Saudi) force is getting busy cracking down on protesters, all the same time vilifying them as 'Shia extremists' 'in league with Iran' 'marching in support of a mullah regime' (none of which is true, of course). But since this is between two powers friendly to the US, let's just ignore it until it blows over. Anyway, why would you make a fuss about some 'Shia extremists'.

The ' excluding a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory' line becomes even more interesting to read when you think about Palestine.

Without getting into the Palestine comparisons, I think your assessment with Bahrain is correct. I said something about it in an earlier post. No one is willing to condemn Saudi for the aggressive use of force to stop any dissent. Especially the government of America. We are scared to anger the Saudi’s because they have us hijacked with oil.

Gaddafi knows exactly what he is doing. He was just buying time and trying to get all the killing done before the UN could act. Do you think he would have tried that with the previous President? President Bush and his cabinet were all eager to use force at any time. Gaddafi would have been reluctant to use force because it would have given the Texas gunslinger an excuse to use cruise missile’s on him.
 
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Cobblestones said:
Anyway, this is general politics, back on topic.

Whoever says that Gaddafi is stupid or crazy needs to have their own head examined. It is never good to underestimate your opponent. So he accepts the UN resolution and declares ceasefire. What now? His troops already have reconquered much of Cyrenaica I believe, stopping just short of Benghazi.

Putting yourself into the sight lines of an unmanned US drone is very dumb in my eyes.

He'll choke and flee now - you heard it here first.
Venezuela here we come!
 
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Without getting into the Palestine comparisons, I think your assessment with Bahrain is correct. I said something about it in an earlier post. No one is willing to condemn Saudi for the aggressive use of force to stop any dissent. Especially the government of America. We are scared to anger the Saudi’s because they have us hijacked with oil.

Gaddafi knows exactly what he is doing. He was just buying time and trying to get all the killing done before the UN could act. Do you think he would have tried that with the previous President? President Bush and his cabinet were all eager to use force at any time. Gaddafi would have been reluctant to use force because it would have given the Texas gunslinger an excuse to use cruise missile’s on him.

Obama knows that the one thing which will kill any kind of economic recovery will be a spike in oil prices. Now, with the reactor problems in Japan and trouble in the Mid East that's precisely what he might have coming his way. So he sees his chances to get reelected dwindle.

Gaddafi, despite paranoia and likely other mental problems, is highly skilled in running his country. Can anybody please wrap his head around that he has been in charge for more than 41 years making him the longest 'serving' current dictator??? This guy is not stupid. He knows precisely what it takes to stay where he has been for longer than most of the board members here have lived.

I don't know what GWB might have done and how Gaddafi would have reacted, but the smart money would be on Gaddafi to come out on top. In case you have forgotten, Gaddafi survived Reagan's bombing. [sarcasm] As a conservative, aren't you supposed to think that Reagan>>GWB, so if Reagan couldn't do it, GWB shouldn't have been able to either[/sarcasm].
 
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Glenn_Wilson said:
Gaddafi knows exactly what he is doing. He was just buying time and trying to get all the killing done before the UN could act. Do you think he would have tried that with the previous President? President Bush and his cabinet were all eager to use force at any time. Gaddafi would have been reluctant to use force because it would have given the Texas gunslinger an excuse to use cruise missile’s on him.

what???????? It was Bush who welcomed Gaddafi back to the good graces of the west..(and marathon oil corp of Houston Texas)...You must have drank a lot at that Irish Bar.
btw there is a video of Bush praising Gaddafi out there..
 
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Cobblestones said:
Obama knows that the one thing which will kill any kind of economic recovery will be a spike in oil prices. Now, with the reactor problems in Japan and trouble in the Mid East that's precisely what he might have coming his way. So he sees his chances to get reelected dwindle.

Gaddafi, despite paranoia and likely other mental problems, is highly skilled in running his country. Can anybody please wrap his head around that he has been in charge for more than 41 years making him the longest 'serving' current dictator??? This guy is not stupid. He knows precisely what it takes to stay where he has been for longer than most of the board members here have lived.

I don't know what GWB might have done and how Gaddafi would have reacted, but the smart money would be on Gaddafi to come out on top. In case you have forgotten, Gaddafi survived Reagan's bombing. [sarcasm] As a conservative, aren't you supposed to think that Reagan>>GWB, so if Reagan couldn't do it, GWB shouldn't have been able to either[/sarcasm].

Gaddafi does have a uncanny ability to do what it takes to stay in power. Even after the President Reagan bombed his family he was still the leader. I guess if President Reagan was unable to handle it then there was no chance for President Bush. President Bush was having trouble to keep that crook Donald Rumsfeld in line. Something President Bush never seemed able to do.
 
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what???????? It was Bush who welcomed Gaddafi back to the good graces of the west..(and marathon oil corp of Houston Texas)...You must have drank a lot at that Irish Bar.
btw there is a video of Bush praising Gaddafi out there..

No doubt there is a video where President Bush is praising that dictator Gaddafi. I think it would have been different if trigger finger was in the office. I am not 100% because he is not the present President.
Man I wish you would have been at the bar with us last night Redtreviso….you would have had some good laughs and probably would be less aggressive. :D
btw have you caught up on the FoxNews for today? :D
Oh my goodness Marathon Oil Corp......of Houston Texas no less. :rolleyes:
 
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No doubt there is a video where President Bush is praising that dictator Gaddafi. I think it would have been different if trigger finger was in the office. I am not 100% because he is not the present President.
Man I wish you would have been at the bar with us last night Redtreviso….you would have had some good laughs and probably would be less aggressive. :D
btw have you caught up on the FoxNews for today? :D
Oh my goodness Marathon Oil Corp......of Houston Texas no less. :rolleyes:

Look it up.. Marathon CEO Libya,,

I need some laughs..but I can(would rather not) listen to drunk conservatives just by conversing with my neighbors while watering the yard.
 
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""Last December (seems like years ago today) thousands of protesters decried then Governor-elect Walker’s decision to reject $810 million in federal dollars to construct a high-speed rail system in Wisconsin that would link Madison to Milwaukee and Chicago.

The amount that the state “couldn’t afford” came to about $600,000 a year after federal matching subsidies. So the state ended up losing nearly a billion dollars of federal aid, thousands of engineering and construction jobs, a newly located train manufacturer in Milwaukee and countless dollars and jobs that would have occurred as a result of transit oriented development.

Rail proponents pointed out to Mr. Walker that we also stood to lose tens of millions of dollars that were badly needed for improvements to a section of state owned train tracks east of Madison as a part of the high-speed rail project.


Now, Governor Walker is making the first payment due because of that rejection. His proposed 2011-2013 budget allocates $60 million for making the improvements to the train tracks that would have been paid for with the federal gift of $810 million for high-speed rail.

Put another way, if Mr. Walker had taken a different track, we could have had a regional rail connection that form the first link in connecting the Twin Cities to Madison to Milwaukee to Chicago and points east for about $600,000 a year. Instead, we are sent a bill by Mr. Walker for $60 million.

That $60 million could have paid for the operating costs of the system for the next 100 years.

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No doubt there is a video where President Bush is praising that dictator Gaddafi. I think it would have been different if trigger finger was in the office. I am not 100% because he is not the present President.
Man I wish you would have been at the bar with us last night Redtreviso….you would have had some good laughs and probably would be less aggressive. :D
btw have you caught up on the FoxNews for today? :D
Oh my goodness Marathon Oil Corp......of Houston Texas no less. :rolleyes:

Never happen. Red don't laugh much. He so serious.

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redtreviso said:
Look it up.. Marathon CEO Libya,,

I need some laughs..but I can(would rather not) listen to drunk conservatives just by conversing with my neighbors while watering the yard.

That is just it Red ...... I am not a conservative...but that dues not stop you from wandering around into a terrain that does not suit you.

If you read you may be able to see that I was not taking up for President Bush and at the same time banging on the current President for doing much of nothing.

The Marathon Oil Corporation is what it is. Why would I try to support my competition? You can hammer on them all you want.

Please next time get us some GlennBack, SeanVannity, and Leprechaun quotes from FoxNews.
 
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Never happen. Red don't laugh much. He so serious.

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WoW......that is something that can make anyone laugh. Well maybe not redtreviso...but at the very least anyone who reads this thread will either scream with fear or laugh their asses off. :D
 
Cobblestones said:
Scott, if you want to see an example of a great school system which also achieves great results with immigrant and minority children, you should look to Finland. I'm not mentioning teachers' salaries or unions etc. Just read about the achievements first, then find out how it was possible. And remember that it does the same good job for all children in the whole country, not just some select ones with rich parents. This is the kind of school system which should be available to every child. At least in developed countries (yes it does cost money).

Rhubroma: yes I do remember the swill we were served behind the 'iron curtain' and it wasn't good. Moldavian wine (more like vinegar with a bouquet of gas station) Armenian cognac (turpentine came to mind), and vodka (well, at least you didn't notice the taste after a while). It was godawful. The one exception I recall was a Hungarian desert wine (Tokaj I believe) which was actually quite good. Later I developed a certain fondness for another Hungarian product called Unicum, but that might have been during the 1990s.

Beer is not really my thing.

And it shows. Czech pils is some of the best beer in the world, however, you were decidedly in the wrong place for wine.
 
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redtreviso said:
what???????? It was Bush who welcomed Gaddafi back to the good graces of the west..(and marathon oil corp of Houston Texas)...You must have drank a lot at that Irish Bar.
btw there is a video of Bush praising Gaddafi out there..

When it was Libya's turn to have protests and things started to go bad,old videos did start popping up. CBS.com has an not so old 60 Minutes video were the General addresses lots of things, Hijacking, Israel, women's rights, relations with the west. It's a praise-a-thon for Muammar
 
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